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[byline]

I think Christy Lane (http://en.wikipedia....iki/Cristy_Lane) would do a great job of singing the next Bond theme.

OMG, I knew who Christy Lane was without the video link. Insomniac channel-surfer that I am, I've seen waaay too many late-night country/gospel music ads.

Thanks for the laugh!

P.S. I hear many of the Lawrence Welk singers are still looking for work.

[killkenny kid]

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Christy Lane is like the Shirley Bassey of the Gospel genre. She's got a great voice, a proven track record of success (One Day At A Time Sweet Jesus went to #1 in 1980) and she can sew up the Christian-Conservative demographic that 007's proven to be a hard sell to all these years.

At least you've finally shown us you have a sense of humour .

OMG, I can't stop laughing.

[HH007]

On January 8, 2006, Tamahori, dressed as a woman, was arrested for allegedly soliciting in Los Angeles, by offering an undercover police officer oral sex. I wouldn't call it morally repugnant but it was certainly inadvisable. I don't imagine you approve.

Of course I don't approve. I think Lee would look positively hideous in a dress.

Thanks for putting that picture in my head.

[Captain Tightpants]

The Daily Star is reporting that Winehouse has already recorded the title song (without Ronson) that that "it's in the bag".

However, I'm not believing a word of it until we hear from EON. In less than two weeks, we've gone from Ronson stating that Winehouse isn't fit to be recording any music to this claim that Winehouse has already finished the tape, and that it's in the vein of Dame Shirley and will go down as a classic theme.

Given that A) it's being eported by a tabloid, B') the "news" is tacked onto the end of a report on Winehouse's increasingly erratic behaviour, C) the "source" is from within the record company (as opposed to their usual guff about an EON insider), D) it's two days old and we haven't heard hide nor hair since, E) she was only ever recording a demo tape in the first place, and F) no-one else is reporting it, I'd say all this really proves is that G) tabloid journalism hasn't gotten any better in the past fifteen minutes, H) Amy Winehouse is still a weirdo, and I) the tabloids are still obsessed with her.

By reading the last paragraph, your summation, puts into question the many speculative reasonings to how one can characterise and label people.

What's that supposed to mean?

[dodge]

As for Lee Tamahori....I've already erased him from my Bond canon by refusing to view, own, purchase, or steal a copy of DAD. By the way, what did he do that was so morally repugnant?

On January 8, 2006, Tamahori, dressed as a woman, was arrested for allegedly soliciting in Los Angeles, by offering an undercover police officer oral sex. I wouldn't call it morally repugnant but it was certainly inadvisable. I don't imagine you approve.

Christy Lane is like the Shirley Bassey of the Gospel genre. She's got a great voice, a proven track record of success (One Day At A Time Sweet Jesus went to #1 in 1980) and she can sew up the Christian-Conservative demographic that 007's proven to be a hard sell to all these years.

At least you've finally shown us you have a sense of humour .

Not so. Not at all. Grav is living proof of Mark Twain's old zinger that he was never funnier than when he told the solemn truth.

[Qwerty]

[box]

Pet Shop Boys Bond with Amy

PET SHOP BOYS have offered to help AMY WINEHOUSE complete her Bond theme tune.

MARK RONSON gave up working with the singer on the track for Quantum Of Solace because he felt her drug hell has left her in no fit state to make music.

Now NEIL TENNANT and CHRIS LOWE want to lend a keyboard or two.

They have been creating their own song for the film

[mario007]

I hope PSB and AW team up ... I always wanted PSB to do a bond theme song! Their theme for TLD was very moody and wonderful!!!

Edited by mario007, 21 May 2008 - 02:29 AM.

[byline]

I hope PSB and AW team up ... I always wanted PSB to do a bond theme song! Their theme for TLD was very moody and wonderful!!!

I didn't realize they wrote something for "The Living Daylights" (all I've ever heard is the A-Ha theme song, which I love).

[Jim]

OK, you had me till this line. You cut a really wide swath there with your categories of views. Rupugnant to whom?

Repugnant to me. EON needs to hire a morals consultant anyway, so why not me? I'm fair and balanced.

...helps establish a Daniel Craig hate site...

[ACE]

I hope PSB and AW team up ... I always wanted PSB to do a bond theme song! Their theme for TLD was very moody and wonderful!!!

I didn't realize they wrote something for "The Living Daylights" (all I've ever heard is the A-Ha theme song, which I love).

The basis for the PSB Bond theme was released on their 1990 album, Behaviour, as the track "This Must Be The Places I've Waited Years To Leave" (and as an instrumental rarity called simply "James Bond"). I understand the PSB were hoping to score the entire film, The Living Daylights, but found the job was taken by the more ably qualified, Mr John Barry. The track is moody and atmospheric but in it's finished form, not really Bond. PSB have done quite Bondian tracks - I love their song DJ Culture - and could, especially in collaboration, knock one out the ballpark.

[Safari Suit]

I'm a big PSB fan but much of their work from the last ten years has been rather weak (at least comparitively), a period during which their commercial success has faltered considerably too. On the other hand I loathe most of Winehouse's music, but she is certainly a much more "relevant" artist.

[Zorin Industries]

OK, you had me till this line. You cut a really wide swath there with your categories of views. Rupugnant to whom?

Repugnant to me. EON needs to hire a morals consultant anyway, so why not me? I'm fair and balanced.

Anyone who claims they are fair and balanced always concerns me.

I think there are two sadnesses here. One is that too many people are obviously judging Amy Winehouse on what the British tabloid press tell them. Do Bond fans refuse to see a Bond film because the Daily Mail say it's a bit samey? No - of course not. The difference here is that Bond fans know about 007 on screen and will judge for themselves. When it comes to a singer like Amy Winehouse, the press got there first because everyone's experience of her - well, the shallow minded types who think it's okay to slam an individual with substance issues and place a human being's bad luck on a lower pedestal than their love of a film series they have no involvement in making - is what the British hacks want you to believe.

A lot of us enjoy a beer on a Friday night and amble home in varying levels of drunkeness. If the press photographed you every Friday night for a shock horror story every Saturday morning, who is to blame here? Where are the moral naysayers then? And before anyone says "yes, but Winehouse isn't having a few beers on a Friday night, she's allegedly taking all sorts", that is her personal choice whether it would be someone else's or not. Is her human value any less because she is allegedly taking drugs that the dull masses in leafy Britain have not even heard about, let alone tried?

Secondly, and this - as a Bond fan - really saddens me...... Amy Winehouse (as even Daniel Craig is now saying) is perfect for a Bond film. Having her perform the theme tune is EXACTLY where the series is heading (FORGET ABOUT HER PRIVATE LIFE - IT IS EXACTLY THAT - PRIVATE). And for so many to lambast her in connection with the series speaks volumes about how so many armchair critics with their DVD boxsets actually don't have a clue where the Bond series has headed towards since CASINO ROYALE. This whole Winehouse controversy on this site speaks volumes about how some fans are so blinkered with their 007 nostalgia trips that they haven't a clue what tonally, creatively and structurally the brilliantly revamped franchise has become.

[dee-bee-five]

OK, you had me till this line. You cut a really wide swath there with your categories of views. Rupugnant to whom?

Repugnant to me. EON needs to hire a morals consultant anyway, so why not me? I'm fair and balanced.

...helps establish a Daniel Craig hate site...

Game, Set and Match to you, I think, Jim.

Christy Lane is like the Shirley Bassey of the Gospel genre. She's got a great voice, a proven track record of success (One Day At A Time Sweet Jesus went to #1 in 1980) and she can sew up the Christian-Conservative demographic that 007's proven to be a hard sell to all these years.

I think I would rather have Madonna back. And who the hell wants the franchise to appeal to the neo-Nazi Christian Conservative demographic? Not me, that's for sure.

OK, you had me till this line. You cut a really wide swath there with your categories of views. Rupugnant to whom?

Repugnant to me. EON needs to hire a morals consultant anyway, so why not me? I'm fair and balanced.

Anyone who claims they are fair and balanced always concerns me.

I think there are two sadnesses here. One is that too many people are obviously judging Amy Winehouse on what the British tabloid press tell them. Do Bond fans refuse to see a Bond film because the Daily Mail say it's a bit samey? No - of course not. The difference here is that Bond fans know about 007 on screen and will judge for themselves. When it comes to a singer like Amy Winehouse, the press got there first because everyone's experience of her - well, the shallow minded types who think it's okay to slam an individual with substance issues and place a human being's bad luck on a lower pedestal than their love of a film series they have no involvement in making - is what the British hacks want you to believe.

A lot of us enjoy a beer on a Friday night and amble home in varying levels of drunkeness. If the press photographed you every Friday night for a shock horror story every Saturday morning, who is to blame here? Where are the moral naysayers then? And before anyone says "yes, but Winehouse isn't having a few beers on a Friday night, she's allegedly taking all sorts", that is her personal choice whether it would be someone else's or not. Is her human value any less because she is allegedly taking drugs that the dull masses in leafy Britain have not even heard about, let alone tried?

Secondly, and this - as a Bond fan - really saddens me...... Amy Winehouse (as even Daniel Craig is now saying) is perfect for a Bond film. Having her perform the theme tune is EXACTLY where the series is heading (FORGET ABOUT HER PRIVATE LIFE - IT IS EXACTLY THAT - PRIVATE). And for so many to lambast her in connection with the series speaks volumes about how so many armchair critics with their DVD boxsets actually don't have a clue where the Bond series has headed towards since CASINO ROYALE. This whole Winehouse controversy on this site speaks volumes about how some fans are so blinkered with their 007 nostalgia trips that they haven't a clue what tonally, creatively and structurally the brilliantly revamped franchise has become.

I agree with everything you say. And, going off topic a bit, isn't this discussion proving to be a fascinating insight into how European social mores are, largely, very different from American ones?

Edited by dee-bee-five, 21 May 2008 - 09:12 AM.

[Santa]

European social mores are, largely, very different from American ones?

So very, very different. I don't think I know a single person who has never, ever even tried weed, and the only teetotaller I know is so because she's an alcoholic.

[Simon]

Anyone who claims they are fair and balanced always concerns me.

I think there are two sadnesses here. One is that too many people are obviously judging Amy Winehouse on what the British tabloid press tell them. Do Bond fans refuse to see a Bond film because the Daily Mail say it's a bit samey? No - of course not. The difference here is that Bond fans know about 007 on screen and will judge for themselves. When it comes to a singer like Amy Winehouse, the press got there first because everyone's experience of her - well, the shallow minded types who think it's okay to slam an individual with substance issues and place a human being's bad luck on a lower pedestal than their love of a film series they have no involvement in making - is what the British hacks want you to believe.

A lot of us enjoy a beer on a Friday night and amble home in varying levels of drunkeness. If the press photographed you every Friday night for a shock horror story every Saturday morning, who is to blame here? Where are the moral naysayers then? And before anyone says "yes, but Winehouse isn't having a few beers on a Friday night, she's allegedly taking all sorts", that is her personal choice whether it would be someone else's or not. Is her human value any less because she is allegedly taking drugs that the dull masses in leafy Britain have not even heard about, let alone tried?

Secondly, and this - as a Bond fan - really saddens me...... Amy Winehouse (as even Daniel Craig is now saying) is perfect for a Bond film. Having her perform the theme tune is EXACTLY where the series is heading (FORGET ABOUT HER PRIVATE LIFE - IT IS EXACTLY THAT - PRIVATE). And for so many to lambast her in connection with the series speaks volumes about how so many armchair critics with their DVD boxsets actually don't have a clue where the Bond series has headed towards since CASINO ROYALE. This whole Winehouse controversy on this site speaks volumes about how some fans are so blinkered with their 007 nostalgia trips that they haven't a clue what tonally, creatively and structurally the brilliantly revamped franchise has become.

A very good summation sir.

Agreed.

[bond 16.05.72]

OK, you had me till this line. You cut a really wide swath there with your categories of views. Rupugnant to whom?

Repugnant to me. EON needs to hire a morals consultant anyway, so why not me? I'm fair and balanced.

Anyone who claims they are fair and balanced always concerns me.

I think there are two sadnesses here. One is that too many people are obviously judging Amy Winehouse on what the British tabloid press tell them. Do Bond fans refuse to see a Bond film because the Daily Mail say it's a bit samey? No - of course not. The difference here is that Bond fans know about 007 on screen and will judge for themselves. When it comes to a singer like Amy Winehouse, the press got there first because everyone's experience of her - well, the shallow minded types who think it's okay to slam an individual with substance issues and place a human being's bad luck on a lower pedestal than their love of a film series they have no involvement in making - is what the British hacks want you to believe.

A lot of us enjoy a beer on a Friday night and amble home in varying levels of drunkeness. If the press photographed you every Friday night for a shock horror story every Saturday morning, who is to blame here? Where are the moral naysayers then? And before anyone says "yes, but Winehouse isn't having a few beers on a Friday night, she's allegedly taking all sorts", that is her personal choice whether it would be someone else's or not. Is her human value any less because she is allegedly taking drugs that the dull masses in leafy Britain have not even heard about, let alone tried?

Secondly, and this - as a Bond fan - really saddens me...... Amy Winehouse (as even Daniel Craig is now saying) is perfect for a Bond film. Having her perform the theme tune is EXACTLY where the series is heading (FORGET ABOUT HER PRIVATE LIFE - IT IS EXACTLY THAT - PRIVATE). And for so many to lambast her in connection with the series speaks volumes about how so many armchair critics with their DVD boxsets actually don't have a clue where the Bond series has headed towards since CASINO ROYALE. This whole Winehouse controversy on this site speaks volumes about how some fans are so blinkered with their 007 nostalgia trips that they haven't a clue what tonally, creatively and structurally the brilliantly revamped franchise has become.

Zorin you always seem to present thing intelligently, yes I'm biased because I agree and GS you wanting Bond to appeal to the Christian demographic is laughable.

First you suggest Cowell spawn like Leona Lewis now some 80's gospel singer, whats next. This using Winehouse' s problems to make her insuitable is ridiculous, as I pointed out earlier in this thread, the legends of old seem immune from criticism, because they kept it behind closed doors that made them still people to respected.

If Sinatra was still alive and well and he'd been picked, I can't imagine anyone bringing up the fact he had drink problems was a viscious bully, borderline racist or he consorted with notorious gangsters. I'm sure you'd all excuse Hendix if alive today and he was a filthy heroin addict as well as Saint Lennon.

If you don't like them then use that as your excuse to object but this moral argument is just one big smoke screen for the fact you's rather she didn't do it cause she isn't your Artist of choice.

I'd be horrified if Britney or Kylie got the job but not because they might have questionable pasts, it would because they have questionable amounts of talent and are just manufactured pop dolls, at least Madonna was her own woman.

[Zorin Industries]

OK, you had me till this line. You cut a really wide swath there with your categories of views. Rupugnant to whom?

Repugnant to me. EON needs to hire a morals consultant anyway, so why not me? I'm fair and balanced.

Anyone who claims they are fair and balanced always concerns me.

I think there are two sadnesses here. One is that too many people are obviously judging Amy Winehouse on what the British tabloid press tell them. Do Bond fans refuse to see a Bond film because the Daily Mail say it's a bit samey? No - of course not. The difference here is that Bond fans know about 007 on screen and will judge for themselves. When it comes to a singer like Amy Winehouse, the press got there first because everyone's experience of her - well, the shallow minded types who think it's okay to slam an individual with substance issues and place a human being's bad luck on a lower pedestal than their love of a film series they have no involvement in making - is what the British hacks want you to believe.

A lot of us enjoy a beer on a Friday night and amble home in varying levels of drunkeness. If the press photographed you every Friday night for a shock horror story every Saturday morning, who is to blame here? Where are the moral naysayers then? And before anyone says "yes, but Winehouse isn't having a few beers on a Friday night, she's allegedly taking all sorts", that is her personal choice whether it would be someone else's or not. Is her human value any less because she is allegedly taking drugs that the dull masses in leafy Britain have not even heard about, let alone tried?

Secondly, and this - as a Bond fan - really saddens me...... Amy Winehouse (as even Daniel Craig is now saying) is perfect for a Bond film. Having her perform the theme tune is EXACTLY where the series is heading (FORGET ABOUT HER PRIVATE LIFE - IT IS EXACTLY THAT - PRIVATE). And for so many to lambast her in connection with the series speaks volumes about how so many armchair critics with their DVD boxsets actually don't have a clue where the Bond series has headed towards since CASINO ROYALE. This whole Winehouse controversy on this site speaks volumes about how some fans are so blinkered with their 007 nostalgia trips that they haven't a clue what tonally, creatively and structurally the brilliantly revamped franchise has become.

Zorin you always seem to present thing intelligently, yes I'm biased because I agree and GS you wanting Bond to appeal to the Christian demographic is laughable.

First you suggest Cowell spawn like Leona Lewis now some 80's gospel singer, whats next. This using Winehouse' s problems to make her insuitable is ridiculous, as I pointed out earlier in this thread, the legends of old seem immune from criticism, because they kept it behind closed doors that made them still people to respected.

If Sinatra was still alive and well and he'd been picked, I can't imagine anyone bringing up the fact he had drink problems was a viscious bully, borderline racist or he consorted with notorious gangsters. I'm sure you'd all excuse Hendix if alive today and he was a filthy heroin addict as well as Saint Lennon.

If you don't like them then use that as your excuse to object but this moral argument is just one big smoke screen for the fact you's rather she didn't do it cause she isn't your Artist of choice.

Forgive me. I am a little confused as to whether we are agreeing or not. I can't stand Leona Lewis. I think she is bland, soulless who is about as much of a diva as Mother Teresa. Her voice is good, but there needs to be some spark of awareness behind the tunes.

I think Sinatra was asked to sing MOONRAKER, but refused...

[Captain Tightpants]

I'm still not understanding how people think her private life is a completely separate entity from everything else.

Now I've got university exams coming up for which I'm studying, but if I'm constantly getting drunk off my face in the lead-up to it, it's obviously going to affect my ability to study, which is going to affect my ability to do the actual exam.

Amy Winehouse has constantly been in trouble for the possession and possible use of drugs, not to mention her stints in rehab for alcohol abuse. If she's presented with the opportunity to perform the Quantm of Solace theme while still under such a state, obviously her substance abuse problems can affect that, and having seen this hyper-weird video of her and Doherty, she doesn't seem to be giving up any time soon.

It might be a part of her private life - and ignoring for the moment the fact that celebrites have no private life unless they try very, very hard - but it sure as hell has an influence over everything else, which makes it relevant. She's an addict and shows no signs of even wanting to get help; she's even made it public knowledge that she refuses it. The chances that she'll suddenly and miraculously reform in time to write and record a full Bond theme are not odds that I'd play.

[MkB]

European social mores are, largely, very different from American ones?

So very, very different. I don't think I know a single person who has never, ever even tried weed, and the only teetotaller I know is so because she's an alcoholic.

Err... Well... I have to confess... I have never, ever even tried weed... Which doesn't mean that I have a bad judgement on people who use weed, it simply didn't happen to me, and now I think I'm a tad too old to begin. My teenage sucked!

[Santa]

European social mores are, largely, very different from American ones?

So very, very different. I don't think I know a single person who has never, ever even tried weed, and the only teetotaller I know is so because she's an alcoholic.

Err... Well... I have to confess... I have never, ever even tried weed... Which doesn't mean that I have a bad judgement on people who use weed, it simply didn't happen to me, and now I think I'm a tad too old to begin. My teenage sucked!

Ahhhh, but I don't know you

[Santa]

I'm quite confused by some of the ideas present in this thread. I'm not seriously advocating anyone go out and start shooting up, but there's a world of difference between the odd joint on a Saturday night and daily mainlining for breakfast. The idea of GS (or anyone) being hired as a morals consultant is, to me, morally repugnant, particularly if based on the premise that said person doesn't even have a glass of wine with dinner. GS may consider he's pure as snow because he's never got high but we all have our peccadilloes. There are vast swathes of grey area here - and let's not forget that none of us actually know what Amy gets up to. We know that she's frequently photographed looking a bit skanky, and we know that the tabloids tell us she's involved in all kinds of naughtiness. Doesn't really mean much. In terms of her professional capacity, she's had a couple of number one albums, won a Grammy and reached The Times rich list - and she's only 24. How many of us here can claim similar?

[Shrublands]

I'm still not understanding how people think her private life is a completely separate entity from everything else.

Now I've got university exams coming up for which I'm studying, but if I'm constantly getting drunk off my face in the lead-up to it, it's obviously going to affect my ability to study, which is going to affect my ability to do the actual exam.

Umm

[Quantumofsolace007]

This rumour is like an immortal you shoot it stab it drown it and yet it keeps coming It's either the Connor Mcleod (if you like the idea of a winhouse them) or Jason Voorhes (if ya hate the idea) of rumours.

Look I just don't like her voice and style could care less about her personal life. I want another Rocker for Quantum of Solace.

altough this thread has been derailed and is more of a discusion avbout personal beliefs and moral consultants.

Look i will say this twice in this post She can do what she wants in her personal life But as for her vopice and style had brosnan done a 5th sure but since he isn't no Let's keep the hard edged rockers for Craig.

[dodge]

I'm quite confused by some of the ideas present in this thread. I'm not seriously advocating anyone go out and start shooting up, but there's a world of difference between the odd joint on a Saturday night and daily mainlining for breakfast. The idea of GS (or anyone) being hired as a morals consultant is, to me, morally repugnant, particularly if based on the premise that said person doesn't even have a glass of wine with dinner. GS may consider he's pure as snow because he's never got high but we all have our peccadilloes. There are vast swathes of grey area here - and let's not forget that none of us actually know what Amy gets up to. We know that she's frequently photographed looking a bit skanky, and we know that the tabloids tell us she's involved in all kinds of naughtiness. Doesn't really mean much. In terms of her professional capacity, she's had a couple of number one albums, won a Grammy and reached The Times rich list - and she's only 24. How many of us here can claim similar?

This is your longest and most eloquent thread. And I salute you for it. 'Judge not...' is still in the top three of the world's greatest bits of advice. We know precious little for fact about AW. And that's enough for me. Let her be--and let her sing, all she really owes us.

[Judo chop]

but we all have our peccadilloes.

And I doubt they are anywhere near as adorable as you make them sound.

[HildebrandRarity]

Getting back on topic...If she's reportedly finished a song, then she obviously got a piece of the screenplay, correct?

[bond 16.05.72]

OK, you had me till this line. You cut a really wide swath there with your categories of views. Rupugnant to whom?

Repugnant to me. EON needs to hire a morals consultant anyway, so why not me? I'm fair and balanced.

Anyone who claims they are fair and balanced always concerns me.

I think there are two sadnesses here. One is that too many people are obviously judging Amy Winehouse on what the British tabloid press tell them. Do Bond fans refuse to see a Bond film because the Daily Mail say it's a bit samey? No - of course not. The difference here is that Bond fans know about 007 on screen and will judge for themselves. When it comes to a singer like Amy Winehouse, the press got there first because everyone's experience of her - well, the shallow minded types who think it's okay to slam an individual with substance issues and place a human being's bad luck on a lower pedestal than their love of a film series they have no involvement in making - is what the British hacks want you to believe.

A lot of us enjoy a beer on a Friday night and amble home in varying levels of drunkeness. If the press photographed you every Friday night for a shock horror story every Saturday morning, who is to blame here? Where are the moral naysayers then? And before anyone says "yes, but Winehouse isn't having a few beers on a Friday night, she's allegedly taking all sorts", that is her personal choice whether it would be someone else's or not. Is her human value any less because she is allegedly taking drugs that the dull masses in leafy Britain have not even heard about, let alone tried?

Secondly, and this - as a Bond fan - really saddens me...... Amy Winehouse (as even Daniel Craig is now saying) is perfect for a Bond film. Having her perform the theme tune is EXACTLY where the series is heading (FORGET ABOUT HER PRIVATE LIFE - IT IS EXACTLY THAT - PRIVATE). And for so many to lambast her in connection with the series speaks volumes about how so many armchair critics with their DVD boxsets actually don't have a clue where the Bond series has headed towards since CASINO ROYALE. This whole Winehouse controversy on this site speaks volumes about how some fans are so blinkered with their 007 nostalgia trips that they haven't a clue what tonally, creatively and structurally the brilliantly revamped franchise has become.

Zorin you always seem to present thing intelligently, yes I'm biased because I agree and GS you wanting Bond to appeal to the Christian demographic is laughable.

First you suggest Cowell spawn like Leona Lewis now some 80's gospel singer, whats next. This using Winehouse' s problems to make her insuitable is ridiculous, as I pointed out earlier in this thread, the legends of old seem immune from criticism, because they kept it behind closed doors that made them still people to respected.

If Sinatra was still alive and well and he'd been picked, I can't imagine anyone bringing up the fact he had drink problems was a viscious bully, borderline racist or he consorted with notorious gangsters. I'm sure you'd all excuse Hendix if alive today and he was a filthy heroin addict as well as Saint Lennon.

If you don't like them then use that as your excuse to object but this moral argument is just one big smoke screen for the fact you's rather she didn't do it cause she isn't your Artist of choice.

Forgive me. I am a little confused as to whether we are agreeing or not. I can't stand Leona Lewis. I think she is bland, soulless who is about as much of a diva as Mother Teresa. Her voice is good, but there needs to be some spark of awareness behind the tunes.

I think Sinatra was asked to sing MOONRAKER, but refused...

We are agreeing, the Lewis comment is for Gravity not you.

[byline]

European social mores are, largely, very different from American ones?

So very, very different. I don't think I know a single person who has never, ever even tried weed, and the only teetotaller I know is so because she's an alcoholic.

Err... Well... I have to confess... I have never, ever even tried weed... Which doesn't mean that I have a bad judgement on people who use weed, it simply didn't happen to me, and now I think I'm a tad too old to begin. My teenage sucked!

American living in Canada chiming in here. Tried weed a time or two, and my confession is that it did absolutely nothing for me. I'm not sure if I've got some kind of weird brain chemistry or what, but nothing. Zip. Nada. Zilch. So I lost interest. I've been inebriated . . . oh, a few times. At least. Definitely feel that. Trying to cut back, as overconsumption at various levels just doesn't agree with me the way it used to. Maybe it never did, and I'm just noticing it more now.

The point being that of course, none of us is pure as the driven snow. My only qualms have to do with being able to meet professional obligations. Which I would think is the same thing EON must be concerned with. Other than that, who am I to judge?

Edited by byline, 22 May 2008 - 03:11 AM.

[Captain Tightpants]

[quote name='Shrublands' post='872532' date='22 May 2008 - 00:24'][quote name='Captain Tightpants' post='872519' date='21 May 2008 - 14:40']I'm still not understanding how people think her private life is a completely separate entity from everything else.

Now I've got university exams coming up for which I'm studying, but if I'm constantly getting drunk off my face in the lead-up to it, it's obviously going to affect my ability to study, which is going to affect my ability to do the actual exam.[/quote]
Umm

[Jim]

OK, you had me till this line. You cut a really wide swath there with your categories of views. Rupugnant to whom?

Repugnant to me. EON needs to hire a morals consultant anyway, so why not me? I'm fair and balanced.

...helps establish a Daniel Craig hate site...

ABSOLUTE LIE. A DAMNABLE LIE. You should be removed from this board for telling such flatout lies. Seriously. You really need to check your facts before making such allegations. Not only did I not start the site, I never contributed anything to it, and when Mario asked me to conceal his identity and lie for him, I refused.

You owe me a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE apology, and if one is not forth coming I will bring this up to other moderators of this fine establishment. I bid you good day, Sir.

http://debrief.comma...p...5125&st=180

Thanks for the memories. Happy days. Happy Feet.

Noted on your assertion of not starting, noted on your assertion of not contributing, and if that is what you read into "establish" then I apologise for any misconception capable of being derived from that, should it ultimately be untrue. If it brought your fictional username into disrepute then I do apologise for that, too.

For others to judge the "fair and balanced" one, though. Some help with that available here:-

http://debrief.comma...mp;#entry579516