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[sharpshooter]

Fantastic to have some minor form of confirmation that things are indeed moving forward.

Indeed. I hope they go with The Riddler, a new interpretation of my favorite Batman villain is welcomed.

[Harmsway]

I hope they go with The Riddler, a new interpretation of my favorite Batman villain is welcomed.

I wouldn't get your hopes up. As I said before, the last on-record comments we had from David Goyer and Jonathan Nolan indicated that they weren't going to go for one of Batman's main foes in BATMAN 3, and would actually try to go for more obscure figures.

Naturally nothing's in stone, but for that, and also because I think Nolan will want to pick villains that will be very distanced from the Joker to avoid comparison, I think that it's very unlikely that we'll be seeing the Riddler in BATMAN 3.

[sharpshooter]

I wouldn't get your hopes up. As I said before, the last on-record comments we had from David Goyer and Jonathan Nolan indicated that they weren't going to go for one of Batman's main foes in BATMAN 3, and would actually try to go for more obscure figures.

I see.

I’d like a more simple plot for the next film compared to the likes of TDK. No little subplots like Mr. Reese or anything, just have a sole focus and play it right until the end. Keep the focus even more on Batman himself and his struggle.

I'm warming to the idea of Batman himself being the featured "villain” in Batman 3 whilst dealing with the rising freak element The Joker has inspired. With being on the run, dealing with Harvey Dent's "ghost" and trying to clear his name, Batman has his hands full.

[Harmsway]

I’d like a more simple plot for the next film compared to the likes of TDK.

It would be a nice change of pace, for sure.

I'm warming to the idea of Batman himself being the featured "villain” in Batman 3 whilst dealing with the rising freak element The Joker has inspired.

Well, I more and more think the crux of BATMAN 3 should be "Batman versus the government."

With being on the run, dealing with Harvey Dent's "ghost" and trying to clear his name, Batman has his hands full.

Well, I imagine Batman's not going to be trying to clear his name. Quite the opposite, in fact.

[tdalton]

Well, I imagine Batman's not going to be trying to clear his name. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Agreed. It wouldn't make much sense for him to be doing so since he was the one that deliberately put himself in the position of being on the run.

As for villains, I'm hoping that they do indeed go with one of the lesser known villains. If they do go with a more well-known villain, then the only one I'm really in favor of seeing would be Casey Affleck as the Riddler. Otherwise, I'd rather see a lesser-known villain like Black Mask.

[DamnCoffee]

I wonder if Nolan would consider adding to the list of Bat Villians, by creating some of his own.

[Janus Assassin]

I wouldn't mind seeing Phillip Seymour Hoffman as the Penguin

[Harmsway]

If anybody's interested, I've put together a blog post about my own ideas as to where I think Nolan should be taking the franchise.

[Tarl_Cabot]

Hunt the Dark Knight...interesting..I still like The Caped Crusader, especially since Wayne's Russian date uses the term. But you can't really hunt Batman if he retires the cowl..unless that accountant guy breaks his silence...I like the idea of Batman vs the Goverment, that is if the events of the joker terrorism lead to extreme police statism(something that mirrors america's post 9-11 Bush administration behavior). Anyway, very interesting piece Harms. I think a Catwoman appearence is mandatory. This series desperately needs an injection of sex appeal and a good (post Ledger) reason to attract the non geek audience.

[Harmsway]

Hunt the Dark Knight...interesting..I still like The Caped Crusader, especially since Wayne's Russian date uses the term.

Eh, I think THE CAPED CRUSADER is an awkward title. It is associated more with the lighter era of Batman comics, and would look pretty darn silly on a poster. People are going to see this flick regardless of what it's called, but THE CAPED CRUSADE is a far cry from the elegant drama of a title like THE DARK KNIGHT.

But you can't really hunt Batman if he retires the cowl..

Batman (briefly) retired the cowl in THE DARK KNIGHT. Doing the same in BATMAN 3 would be horribly redundant.

I like the idea of Batman vs the Goverment, that is if the events of the joker terrorism lead to extreme police statism(something that mirrors america's post 9-11 Bush administration behavior).

That's not exactly what I'm thinking. I don't think Gotham will become like a police state. The Joker's terrorist activities were pretty threatening, but he's behind bars. I'm not too keen on seeing the government portrayed negatively.

I want to see the dynamic of Batman versus a mostly well-intentioned government. He is, after all, a vigilante. They even mentioned in THE DARK KNIGHT that he would one day have to deal with the law (and that was before he took the blame for Two-Face's murders). BATMAN 3 should be, in some sense, the reckoning.

I think a Catwoman appearence is mandatory. This series desperately needs an injection of sex appeal and a good (post Ledger) reason to attract the non geek audience.

I think, after THE DARK KNIGHT, BATMAN 3 has the non-geek audience in the bag. But yeah, I think Catwoman would be a smart choice for a supporting figure in the next flick - shame that Jonathan Nolan and David Goyer seem dead-set against using her.

[tdalton]

I like the idea of the HUNT THE DARK KNIGHT title, although I think that I would prefer it more if the title were: HUNT FOR THE DARK KNIGHT.

As for villains, I think it will be interesting to see where they go with it. Perhaps the Riddler could be brought in and used in an interesting way, perhaps with the government hiring Edward Nygma as an investigator to try to track down Batman and bring him to justice. Over the course of the film, we could see Nygma become more and more obsessed with discovering who Batman is, and becoming so obsessed with that "riddle" that he goes insane and becomes the Riddler.

I also wouldn't mind seeing them bring the Bane character into this as well. Seeing as how this particular franchise of films doesn't seem as though it will reach a point where it can conclude with the Knightfall storyline, why not bring Bane in now as hired muscle to try to find the Batman.

[Harmsway]

I like the idea of the HUNT THE DARK KNIGHT title, although I think that I would prefer it more if the title were: HUNT FOR THE DARK KNIGHT.

I think adding the word "for" loses everything that was interesting and catchy about HUNT THE DARK KNIGHT. The way it's phrased as a sort of command is precisely what makes it so interesting (kind of like some older titles, like DON'T LOOK NOW or TASTE THE BLOOD OF DRACULA or what have you).

[dodge]

I could go for something a little more baroque:

DARK IS THE KNIGHT

Or

EVER DARKER GROWS THE NIGHT

Please send my check. I need the dough. I told Santa I'd take her to dinner and can't afford the plane fare.

[Loomis]

Hunt the Dark Knight...interesting..I still like The Caped Crusader, especially since Wayne's Russian date uses the term.

Eh, I think THE CAPED CRUSADER is an awkward title. It is associated more with the lighter era of Batman comics, and would look pretty darn silly on a poster. People are going to see this flick regardless of what it's called, but THE CAPED CRUSADE is a far cry from the elegant drama of a title like THE DARK KNIGHT.

I guess THE CAPED CRUSADER ain't as elegant and sophisticated and sleekly mysterious a title as THE DARK KNIGHT, but it neither is it nearly as undignified as you're making out, and it is instantly iconic Batman.

Furthermore, a character in BATMAN BEGINS 3 could mokingly refer to our hero as "the caped crusader", as though he's some kind of pathetic clown with ideas above his station, just another pitiable shlub like those wannabes in the multistorey car park sequence near the start of THE DARK KNIGHT. Don't forget that Batman's name is now mud, so THE CAPED CRUSADER might tie into the film rather better than you think.

In any case, I still dislike HUNT THE DARK KNIGHT. I guess it's possible that the next film may be called simply BATMAN.

[Agent 76]

perhaps...

GOTHAM
CHRONICLES

BATMAN
PUBLIC ENEMY

[Vauxhall]

My preference for a title would simply be GOTHAM, or alternatively a short phrase including the word. I note that GOTHAM KNIGHT was used for some animated shorts last year. I imagine SHADOW OF THE BAT may also be a possibility.

[Harmsway]

I guess THE CAPED CRUSADER ain't as elegant and sophisticated and sleekly mysterious a title as THE DARK KNIGHT, but it neither is it nearly as undignified as you're making out, and it is instantly iconic Batman.

It may be "instantly iconic Batman," but it's not reminiscent of the kind of Batman Nolan's dealing with. It calls to mind the sillier Batman of years gone by, which is why it's ill-fit for this "gritty" adaptation.

Furthermore, a character in BATMAN BEGINS 3 could mokingly refer to our hero as "the caped crusader", as though he's some kind of pathetic clown with ideas above his station, just another pitiable shlub like those wannabes in the multistorey car park sequence near the start of THE DARK KNIGHT. Don't forget that Batman's name is now mud, so THE CAPED CRUSADER might tie into the film rather better than you think.

I could see that, but I don't really like the title as a reference to an insult flung at Batman. Especially for the close to Nolan's Batman trilogy.

In any case, I still dislike HUNT THE DARK KNIGHT.

Fair enough. I still think it fits better than any other potential title. Sure, you could call it GOTHAM or something like that, but that's pretty generic. At least HUNT THE DARK KNIGHT is striking (admittedly in a pulpy sort of way) and would really capture the essence of the film (as far as I've been imagining the essence of the film, that is).

I guess it's possible that the next film may be called simply BATMAN.

People said the same thing about THE DARK KNIGHT. It's my guess that Nolan will go for something more distinctive than BATMAN, though. It would feel kind of lazy. Nolan's titles up until this point have tied into the essence of the film he's dealing with... BATMAN is so bland and generic it would fit practically any Batman story ever written.

[Loomis]

I like Agent 76's suggestion of BATMAN: PUBLIC ENEMY. How's that for a title suitably drenched in film noir? OTOH, it does also remind one of the rap group.

[Harmsway]

I like Agent 76's suggestion of BATMAN: PUBLIC ENEMY. How's that for a title suitably drenched in film noir? OTOH, it does also remind one of the rap group.

I like it, but it's far too reminiscent of the Michael Mann film PUBLIC ENEMIES coming out this year (with Christian Bale, no less).

[tdalton]

I like the idea of the HUNT THE DARK KNIGHT title, although I think that I would prefer it more if the title were: HUNT FOR THE DARK KNIGHT.

I think adding the word "for" loses everything that was interesting and catchy about HUNT THE DARK KNIGHT. The way it's phrased as a sort of command is precisely what makes it so interesting (kind of like some older titles, like DON'T LOOK NOW or TASTE THE BLOOD OF DRACULA or what have you).

After thinking about it a bit, I do agree that HUNT FOR THE DARK KNIGHT might not be the right title. Another suggestion I would have, though, would be to take the name that people call Batman within The Dark Knight ("The Batman" instead of just "Batman" like in the first four movies) and build the title around that.

Perhaps this title: HUNT THE BATMAN

Edited by tdalton, 02 February 2009 - 09:30 AM.

[dodge]

I like the idea of the HUNT THE DARK KNIGHT title, although I think that I would prefer it more if the title were: HUNT FOR THE DARK KNIGHT.

I think adding the word "for" loses everything that was interesting and catchy about HUNT THE DARK KNIGHT. The way it's phrased as a sort of command is precisely what makes it so interesting (kind of like some older titles, like DON'T LOOK NOW or TASTE THE BLOOD OF DRACULA or what have you).

After thinking about it a bit, I do agree that HUNT FOR THE DARK KNIGHT might not be the right title. Another suggestion I would have, though, would be to take the name that people call Batman within The Dark Knight ("The Batman" instead of just "Batman" like in the first four movies) and build the title around that.

Perhaps this title: HUNT THE BATMAN

HTB, I fear, won't work. But to pacify Harms who prefers the baroque:

LONG DAY'S JOURNEY INTO KNIGHT?

[ACE]

LONG DAY'S JOURNEY INTO KNIGHT?

Brilliant, dodge, brilliant!

[Harmsway]

LONG DAY'S JOURNEY INTO KNIGHT?

[Captain Tightpants]

I have an idea for what I think is a great title: BÊTE NOIRE. It's French for 'dark beast' - a nightmare, basically - but it could also be an allusion back to a more noir-inspired film, especially if harmsway's blog is the direction they take.

[Agent 76]

HUNTED KNIGHT

DARK KNIGHT
FUGITIVE

BATMAN
SHADOWS

[sharpshooter]

EDIT

I was April Fooled, I won't bother posting the story now.

[JackWade]

I think THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS has several good titles in it. I wouldn't mind seeing any of those used.

[Righty007]

If Bane wasn't RUINED in Batman & Robin, he might have done nicely too.

Two-Face was ruined too but he turned out great in The Dark Knight.

[danielcraigisjamesbond007]

I'd love to see either Catwoman (Maybe Anne Hathaway), The Riddler, or the Penguin (Phillip Seymour Hoffman). I know that some of these people are only rumored or rejected the offer, but it would be kind of cool to see...

[dodge]

LONG DAY'S JOURNEY INTO KNIGHT?

Brilliant, dodge, brilliant!

Thank you, ACE. Sorry for the delay in response, have been hyper-busy on new job.