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[Loomis]

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Mathieu Amalric Calls 'Quantum of Solace' "very dark"

New Bond villain also reveals details on the film's finale

Apologies if this is already common knowledge, but an interview with Almaric in today's Sunday Times has a couple of slight spoilers re: QoS.

http://entertainment...icle3241218.ece

Almaric says the film is "very dark". Okay, so we all knew it wasn't exactly going to be OCTOPUSSY, but it strikes me that "very dark" might hold quite a bit of weight coming from someone like Almaric - don't know much about his career, but I get the impression (which may well be wrong) that he acts in and directs fairly "serious" and "worthy" fare, so it's a little like Eli Roth calling a film violent - you sit up and take notice.

Apparently, Almaric's role is extremely physical, and here's the big spoiler (relatively speaking, anyway):

It's physical because

Spoiler

of a big fight with Bond at the end.

So, will QoS end like

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GOLDENEYE, with a massive punchup between 007 and the villain

?

[DamnCoffee]

Whoa! Nice Find! One of the greatest scenes in the franchise is Bond letting out all of his anger out on 006 in GoldenEye. Now, that was violent and Bond was only betrayed. imagine what it would be like if Bond were to let all of his anger out on Greene? Not only was he betrayed but he lost his lover. This is going to be pretty gripping stuff!

[dinovelvet]

Interesting. It could be that EON are addressing one of the few complaints, or should I say "complaints" about CR in that there was no showdown between Bond and the villain.

Though honestly, I can't imagine a fight between Craig and Almaric lasting too long, Craig would whup his in five seconds

[Vauxhall]

Something that has struck me is how small Mathieu Amalric is. If there is to be a fight between Bond and Greene, I really cannot imagine it being a genuine contest. Bond would destroy him.

Edit: dinovelvet beat me to it!

[Loomis]

One of the greatest scenes in the franchise is Bond letting out all of his anger on 006 in GoldenEye. Now, that was violent and Bond was only betrayed. imagine what it would be like if Bond were to let all of his anger out on Greene?

Exactly. Maybe RAMBO will have some serious competition this November in the opening-up-a-can-of-whupass stakes (albeit not in terms of explicitness - Eon can't unleash the claret in anything like Stallone style). I'm picturing the GOLDENEYE brawl extended to the length of the African Rundown with much more inventive and acrobatic fighting moves.

Sure, a match between Bond and Greene initially seems ludicrously one-sided, but perhaps Greene is some kind of ultra-amazing martial arts guru. Or maybe Bond is in some way(s) incapacitated, levelling the playing field.

[baerrtt]

There's a BBC Radio 1 Newsbeat interview where Craig says that the Greene character isn't a skilled fighter but the fight will be very 'nasty'. He gives the impression (and I can imagine the scene) that Greene will be sufficiently enraged by whatever Bond does to him that, possibly, fuelled by nothing more than pure anger he becomes a match for Bond.

I don't know why but Craig's comments makes me envision a fight scene that will resemble less GOLDENEYE more THE BOYS FROM BRAZIL (the vicious fight between Olivier and Gregory Peck at the film's climax). Except hopefully better.

[Vauxhall]

Sure, a match between Bond and Greene initially seems ludicrously one-sided, but perhaps Greene is some kind of ultra-amazing martial arts guru. Or maybe Bond is in some way(s) incapacitated, levelling the playing field.

Talking of Bond being incapacitated, that would fit in with what I'd like to see for the conclusion of QUANTUM OF SOLACE. An injured Bond summons all his reserves of energy to eventually overcome Greene. He is left a wreck, and welcomes the back-up forces who come to retrieve him from the final showdown with Greene. Yet as they load him into transport to a hospital, Bond realises that these are not friendly figures at all and the organisation has captured him. Thus leading to a cliffhanger ending to BOND 23, and possible future use of the brainwash plot from 'The Man With the Golden Gun' novel.

[Loomis]

Curious that they're talking so openly about this fight at this early stage, especially if it ends the film. Could it be one of the major action sequences? Of course, every Bond flick has a scrap or two, but perhaps this one'll be African Rundown in scale.

[dinovelvet]

Sure, a match between Bond and Greene initially seems ludicrously one-sided, but perhaps Greene is some kind of ultra-amazing martial arts guru. Or maybe Bond is in some way(s) incapacitated, levelling the playing field.

Well, the fight could involve weapons. We've all just assumed here that its going to be fisticuffs, but something like a knife fight would level the playing field a bit, and it would be more about who is the most skilled rather than who is the most buff

[Loomis]

Sure, a match between Bond and Greene initially seems ludicrously one-sided, but perhaps Greene is some kind of ultra-amazing martial arts guru. Or maybe Bond is in some way(s) incapacitated, levelling the playing field.

Talking of Bond being incapacitated, that would fit in with what I'd like to see for the conclusion of QUANTUM OF SOLACE. An injured Bond summons all his reserves of energy to eventually overcome Greene. He is left a wreck, and welcomes the back-up forces who come to retrieve him from the final showdown with Greene. Yet as they load him into transport to a hospital, Bond realises that these are not friendly figures at all and the organisation has captured him. Thus leading to a cliffhanger ending to BOND 23, and possible future use of the brainwash plot from 'The Man With the Golden Gun' novel.

Superb.

Funnily enough, there was a recent rumour among Bond fans that the film will end with

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Bond missing in action

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Which I find very easy to believe.

[Royal Dalton]

I read this in the paper this morning. I wonder if this fight ties in with Dr Shatterhand's grapevine info about Bond being missing in action at the end of the film?

[DamnCoffee]

Sure, a match between Bond and Greene initially seems ludicrously one-sided, but perhaps Greene is some kind of ultra-amazing martial arts guru. Or maybe Bond is in some way(s) incapacitated, levelling the playing field.

Talking of Bond being incapacitated, that would fit in with what I'd like to see for the conclusion of QUANTUM OF SOLACE. An injured Bond summons all his reserves of energy to eventually overcome Greene. He is left a wreck, and welcomes the back-up forces who come to retrieve him from the final showdown with Greene. Yet as they load him into transport to a hospital, Bond realises that these are not friendly figures at all and the organisation has captured him. Thus leading to a cliffhanger ending to BOND 23, and possible future use of the brainwash plot from 'The Man With the Golden Gun' novel.

I say thats a good idea!

[Double-Oh-Zero]

Interesting. Not too concerned with the fact that Almaric may be physically outgunned here; like some have already said, it's very possible he's just a nastier, dirtier fighter than Bond, or more skilled at a certain kind of weapon than Bond. Perhaps he was just trying to throw us off with the bit about working out, and it'll be a NSNA-style videogame fight (or not).

And when one takes into account the fact that Bond fought (well, sort of) a midget in TMWTGG, it makes it a bit easier to picture Bond and Greene bruising each other up. Perhaps Craig will try to stuff Almaric into a carry-on.

[juepucta]

Maybe Amalric will wear a robo-suit or exo-skeleton like the guy in Die Another Day Maybe cybernetic stilts!

-G.

[Vauxhall]

Maybe Amalric will wear a robo-suit or exo-skeleton like the guy in Die Another Day Maybe cybernetic stilts!

Please promise never to make a joke like that again!

[juepucta]

Maybe Amalric will wear a robo-suit or exo-skeleton like the guy in Die Another Day Maybe cybernetic stilts!

Please promise never to make a joke like that again!

Hah hah. At least it came through as a joke - otherwise i would have risked an online lynching.

-G.

[Garth007]

Maybe Amalric will wear a robo-suit or exo-skeleton like the guy in Die Another Day Maybe cybernetic stilts!

Please promise never to make a joke like that again!

yes or we will have to torcher u like bond was in CR. which that wouldn't be fun at all!!

[Harmsway]

A nasty, enraged fight between Bond and Greene sounds very good indeed. I love down-and-dirty fights, and Craig seems to excel at them. Give us some good drama for the fight to arise out of, as seems to be the case, and we're all set.

The comments that QUANTUM OF SOLACE is "very dark" are also quite promising.

Talking of Bond being incapacitated, that would fit in with what I'd like to see for the conclusion of QUANTUM OF SOLACE. An injured Bond summons all his reserves of energy to eventually overcome Greene. He is left a wreck, and welcomes the back-up forces who come to retrieve him from the final showdown with Greene. Yet as they load him into transport to a hospital, Bond realises that these are not friendly figures at all and the organisation has captured him. Thus leading to a cliffhanger ending to BOND 23, and possible future use of the brainwash plot from 'The Man With the Golden Gun' novel.

Interesting, like the Bondian version of the finale of 24 season 5. But it's far too early in Bond's career to make use of the very ridiculous "brainwashing" story. The idea of Bond returning to service after such an event is ludicrous, even after a great career, and it would feel positively ridiculous to have it happening within his first few years as a Double-O. Bond seems to be viewed as something of a liability by M already - no need to push that any further.

Now, as far as a cliffhanger is concerned, I'd be fine with QUANTUM OF SOLACE having a sort of cliffhanger, though I'd like it in more of a subdued, Fleming's YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE style. An ending where things are largely resolved, but there's some ambiguity towards the future.

That said, I doubt it will end in such a way. Forster seemed to stand very firmly on the independence of QUANTUM OF SOLACE in the press conference, and indicated he had no knowledge of the future plans for the franchise, and Craig says it carries Bond's character to a place of resolution.

[Loomis]

Interesting. Not too concerned with the fact that Almaric may be physically outgunned here; like some have already said, it's very possible he's just a nastier, dirtier fighter than Bond, or more skilled at a certain kind of weapon than Bond. Perhaps he was just trying to throw us off with the bit about working out, and it'll be a NSNA-style videogame fight (or not).

And when one takes into account the fact that Bond fought (well, sort of) a midget in TMWTGG, it makes it a bit easier to picture Bond and Greene bruising each other up. Perhaps Craig will try to stuff Almaric into a carry-on.

Well, there's plenty of ways in which Bond could be put at a disadvantage For A New Kind Of Bond Brawl The Like Of Which We'd Never Seen Before™: he could find himself having to fight Almaric while very, very drunk (maybe Almaric forces bottles of booze down his throat) - although this would have to be executed very well to avoid seeming comical - or extremely starved of sleep, to cite just the first two possibilities popping into my head. Maybe it's in a burning room and Bond is getting singed to **** while Almaric's safely ensconsed in a flameproof suit. The possibilities are endless.

Then again, it's possible that Bond isn't in any way handicapped but simply doesn't take Almaric seriously as an opponent until for some reason he gets a rude shock - which would be another example of 007's famous arrogance of the BOND BEGINS Craig era tripping up our hotheaded hero. And perhaps more believable and interesting than anything I've just mentioned in the paragraph above.

[jaguar007]

Maybe Amalric will wear a robo-suit or exo-skeleton like the guy in Die Another Day Maybe cybernetic stilts!

-G.

and the suit not only gives him super human strenght, but also makes him invisible

[Double-Oh-Zero]

Then again, it's possible that Bond isn't in any way handicapped but simply doesn't take Almaric seriously as an opponent until for some reason he gets a rude shock - which would be another example of 007's famous arrogance of the BOND BEGINS Craig era tripping up our hotheaded hero. And perhaps more believable and interesting than anything I've just mentioned in the paragraph above.

I buy that. It's kind of odd, but when I read that, I had visions of the "Bringin' a knife to a gunfight" scene in The Untouchables, with Connery being somewhat cocky and unsure of what he's up against until the last second. I'm not suggesting that Craig will get machine-gunned to his death, but perhaps something similar.

[Qwerty]

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Mathieu Amalric Calls 'Quantum of Solace' "very dark"

New Bond villain also reveals details on the film's finale

[sharpshooter]

I hope that the ending of QoS is in the vein of Casino Royale. Not being traditional Bond film conclusion, but leaving it up in the air - the audience wanting to see what happens next.

All of these posts here are gold. Good ideas.

[tdalton]

I hope that they do something different for the ending of Quantum of Solace, but I don't think that it's the right time to move things towards Bond 23 being Fleming's "The Man With The Golden Gun" as has been suggested before. I think that QoS should end on some kind of a cliffhanger, perhaps even to the point where Bond has failed his mission (well, maybe not that radical, but something in that style anyway). Perhaps they could take a page out of the book of the Saw films, and craft an ending where it appears as though Bond has been doing the bidding of Dominic Greene throughout the entire film (without knowing it), and it is revealed to Bond at or near the end of the film when it is too late to do anything about it.

The comments that Amalric has made to the effect of the film being very dark are very promising comments to me. Hopefully they're not comments that are similar to a Bond girl saying that her character is not the typical Bond girl (which hardly ever happens), and that they are comments that ring true. Hopefully with QoS we'll finally get the revenge film that we should have gotten back in the early 1970s when they were making the follow-up to DAF.

[SphinX007]

maybe it's only me - but don't u think they are spoilering the film to much.....couple more weeks and we'll know entire plot of "Quantum of Solace".

[Bondian]

Must say the whole film sounds kind of clich

[RivenWinner]

Man, I was going to crack the joke about him wearing "an awesome robotic suit that gives him extra strength, while at the same time controlling a super laser from outer space!!!" but several of you guys beat me to it.

[Lord, I can't believe that actually made it into a movie. It pains me just thinking about it.]


alas, we Bond fans often think alike.


interesting interview, btw.

Edited by RivenWinner, 28 January 2008 - 04:48 AM.

[Qwerty]

maybe it's only me - but don't u think they are spoilering the film to much.....couple more weeks and we'll know entire plot of "Quantum of Solace".

Not too much, in my opinion. All we've really heard so far is the basic plot which the synopsis gives anyway and a very limited amount of somewhat-spoiler comments like Amalric's in this interview.

[MarcAngeDraco]

While I like the 'very dark' comment, I'm having a bit of a hard time visualizing an intense battle between Bond and Greene (Amalric doesn't seem to have a very physical presence to me). But as others have suggested perhaps it isn't a completely fair fight or perhaps Greene has specialized training in Krav Maga or something similar which makes him more dangerous than his appearance would suggest.

[Skudor]

Craig and Amalric having it out sounds a bit like Bond and Jaws in reverse.