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[Qwerty]

It is TOTALLY set up for the stunt

Granted, that's true Wade. But somehow, perhaps because it's Bond and quite the stunt nonetheless, it works just fine for me.

[Mr. Blofeld]

Well, shouldn't we be looking on the bright side of life? What do you all feel is the best PTS?

[HH007]

Well, shouldn't we be looking on the bright side of life? What do you all feel is the best PTS?

For me it's a toss up between Casino Royale (2006), Goldfinger, and The Living Daylights.

[sharpshooter]

For me, it is GoldenEye. It is a great piece of entertainment each time.

[Royal Dalton]

Anyone who doesn't like "Cai... Cai... Cairo!!!" quite frankly, isn't a real Bond fan.

[JimmyBond]

Anyone who doesn't like "Cai... Cai... Cairo!!!" quite frankly, isn't a real Bond fan.

I expected more from someone called Royal Dalton

[HH007]

Anyone who doesn't like "Cai... Cai... Cairo!!!" quite frankly, isn't a real Bond fan.

I expected more from someone called Royal Dalton

I don't know, I guess I kinda like "Cai...Cai... Cairo!" in a campy sort of way.

Actually, you know what movie has an absolutely brilliant, show stopping pts... Casino Royale (1967)! It amazes me every time I see it! (Sarcasm is being laid on thickly here )

Edited by HH007, 17 October 2007 - 05:12 AM.

[tim partridge]

Without apology:

I LOVE the abstract opening, with the paper wall crash, and the bra strap gag is thrilling.

Unfortunately, the remainder of the sequence seems to shift to what looks like the left overs of Adam West's Batcave, poorly lit and photographed by Guy Hamilton and Ted Moore. Bland TV direction, and what's most apparent, for the first time in the series, is Peter Hunt's absence. What use to be breathless with removed frames and jump cuts was now reduced to conventional, Hollywood/TV, classical fight choreography editing. Hey, I can appreciate that Peter Hunt had moved on, but why get rid of say John Glen (who ended up editing Gilbert's later Bond movies)??? Again, the sort of thing you'd see in abad episode of BATMAN, albeit without the superimposed "KAPOW!" or "WHAM!" graphics.

Bond pre title sequences wouldn't be returned to their former glory well until 1977.

[draxingtonstanley]

Now, I'll grant you that DAF isn't the best Bond. (It's in my top five because it was the first one I ever saw.)

But the PTS? At least there's a plot point to it. Have we forgotten the lamest PTS in the series? MR? It is TOTALLY set up for the stunt, without any effort to establish a reality to it. The circus tent at the end is just thrown in (yeah, I've seen the cut footage -- doesn't help), and could someone explain to me how a guy more than seven feet tall and almost 500 pounds can be HIDDEN in a Lear Jet?

There. Now I feel better.

Oh no. Oh no no no no NO. Moonraker's PTS is outstanding. I'll give you the circus tent,that is indeed a wretched moment.
But you've got the Moonraker being hijacked at the very top,a great scene with beautiful Derek Meddings effects-talk about starting with a bang-and straight into one of THE most thrilling and innovative action scenes ever filmed.
I can't pretend that I don't have a sentimental attachment to this PTS, as Moonraker was the first Bond film I saw at the cinema. Bond being pushed out of a plane without a parachute was an incredible "how's he going to get out of this one?" moment then,and I've seen few better since.
Best and worst PTS'?
Best: MOONRAKER, TLD, Goldfinger, TSWLM spring to mind immediately,
Worst: AVTAK, TMWTGG, LTK(incredibly disappointing after a promising opening shot and following the dynamic PTS of TLD).

There. Now I feel better.

[Turn]

Worst: LTK(incredibly disappointing after a promising opening shot and following the dynamic PTS of TLD).

Thinking about this on this topic, I agree on LTK. It really feels long and drawn-out with little real excitement. At that point the build-up to fantastic PTSs were big in previewing Bond films and there was little on this one, save for Dalton talking about doing his own stunts (or not). An incredibly disappointing start to a good film.

[bond_girl_double07]

[quote name='Mister Asterix' post='766654' date='27 August 2007 - 15:23'][mra]Diamonds Are Forever is the only PTS that shows a woman

[PrinceKamalKhan]

As far as fake Blofeld not being a very good fighter, after a weekend of DVD excess, I'm dubbing this the "Wild Wild West Syndrome".. everybody knows Jim West's clones are always way crappier fighters, and never get the ladies

Which Wild Wild West episode did that happen in? Was it a 2nd season one(I have the 2nd season on DVD). There's also a Man From UNCLE episode where Napoleon Solo finds himself in a similar situation.

[bond_girl_double07]

As far as fake Blofeld not being a very good fighter, after a weekend of DVD excess, I'm dubbing this the "Wild Wild West Syndrome".. everybody knows Jim West's clones are always way crappier fighters, and never get the ladies

Which Wild Wild West episode did that happen in? Was it a 2nd season one(I have the 2nd season on DVD). There's also a Man From UNCLE episode where Napoleon Solo finds himself in a similar situation.

I'm so pleased that you asked (in the sense that I could talk about the WWW all day hehe ) There are actually two episodes in the second season (that I can think of) that feature a weak Jim West Clone:

The Night of the Big Blast
actually one of my favorite episodes, Arte finally gets a little romance! An evil doctor creates an exact replica (Frankenstein-style) of Jim and Arte, and they are both easily killed

The Night of the Bogus Bandits
A great Miguelito Loveless episode in which a fake Jim West is killed by henchmen in the first 30 seconds of the episode. This one also has a great Arte is "fake" killed moment too, for other Artemus Gordon fans (other Arte fans, pm me btw.. I've always been a huge Ross Martin fan).

Ok, my nerd-minute is over, apologies to everyone who doesn't care

[PrinceKamalKhan]

As far as fake Blofeld not being a very good fighter, after a weekend of DVD excess, I'm dubbing this the "Wild Wild West Syndrome".. everybody knows Jim West's clones are always way crappier fighters, and never get the ladies

Which Wild Wild West episode did that happen in? Was it a 2nd season one(I have the 2nd season on DVD). There's also a Man From UNCLE episode where Napoleon Solo finds himself in a similar situation.

I'm so pleased that you asked (in the sense that I could talk about the WWW all day hehe ) There are actually two episodes in the second season (that I can think of) that feature a weak Jim West Clone:

The Night of the Big Blast
actually one of my favorite episodes, Arte finally gets a little romance! An evil doctor creates an exact replica (Frankenstein-style) of Jim and Arte, and they are both easily killed

The Night of the Bogus Bandits
A great Miguelito Loveless episode in which a fake Jim West is killed by henchmen in the first 30 seconds of the episode. This one also has a great Arte is "fake" killed moment too, for other Artemus Gordon fans (other Arte fans, pm me btw.. I've always been a huge Ross Martin fan).

Ok, my nerd-minute is over, apologies to everyone who doesn't care

Don't apologize. Thanks for the info. I'll need to try to watch those episodes next. Season 3 is on my Christmas list. My favorite episode is the one involving Count Manzeppi, Gerda, Dodo and the chicks.

Nice to see that Arte gets a little romance. Is there an episode where the girl dumps Jim and prefers Arte? Now that's one I'd like to see.

[PrinceKamalKhan]

As far as fake Blofeld not being a very good fighter, after a weekend of DVD excess, I'm dubbing this the "Wild Wild West Syndrome".. everybody knows Jim West's clones are always way crappier fighters, and never get the ladies

Which Wild Wild West episode did that happen in? Was it a 2nd season one(I have the 2nd season on DVD). There's also a Man From UNCLE episode where Napoleon Solo finds himself in a similar situation.

I'm so pleased that you asked (in the sense that I could talk about the WWW all day hehe ) There are actually two episodes in the second season (that I can think of) that feature a weak Jim West Clone:

The Night of the Big Blast
actually one of my favorite episodes, Arte finally gets a little romance! An evil doctor creates an exact replica (Frankenstein-style) of Jim and Arte, and they are both easily killed

The Night of the Bogus Bandits
A great Miguelito Loveless episode in which a fake Jim West is killed by henchmen in the first 30 seconds of the episode. This one also has a great Arte is "fake" killed moment too, for other Artemus Gordon fans (other Arte fans, pm me btw.. I've always been a huge Ross Martin fan).

Ok, my nerd-minute is over, apologies to everyone who doesn't care

Thanks_bondgirl_double07. I watched both of them over the weekend. It was enjoyable to see Arte get to be the main hero of the episode for a change and get the affections of the girl. Also, watched the Night of the Cadre featuring character actor Don Gordon(Bullitt, The Towering Inferno) as the villain.

[Bondian]

[quote name='Mister Asterix' post='766654' date='27 August 2007 - 20:23'][mra]Diamonds Are Forever is the only PTS that shows a woman

[bond_girl_double07]

Thanks_bondgirl_double07. I watched both of them over the weekend. It was enjoyable to see Arte get to be the main hero of the episode for a change and get the affections of the girl. Also, watched the Night of the Cadre featuring character actor Don Gordon(Bullitt, The Towering Inferno) as the villain.

I just rewatched Night of the Cadre this weekend as well! I think it's really one of the best WWW episodes, bar none. I love the scene when Arte has supposedly been shot, and he gets up and starts putting on his next costume Very cute (but I always think Arte's cute hehe).

I love the episode with Count Manzeppi too (and Gerda is one of the cutest WWW girls of all). As far as a girl that dumps Jim for Arte, I seem to vaguely remember something along those lines, but I'm only 2 episodes in on Season III and it's been a while I do remember a scene in which the girl is on her way to jail and stops kissing Jim and throws her arms around Arte's neck when he offers her a better deal though.. but that's bribery and doesn't count

[Mr. Blofeld]

Why are we talking about Wild Wild West all of a sudden?

West is West, and DAF is DAF, and never the twain shall meet.

[bond_girl_double07]

Why are we talking about Wild Wild West all of a sudden?

West is West, and DAF is DAF, and never the twain shall meet.

It came in by way of the easily killed clone

Btw, is there a thread just for DAF as a whole? I can't find it if there is..

[00Twelve]

Yeah, I think it's in the Connery sub-forum. Something like, "DAF - that bad, and worse than DAD!!".

[draxingtonstanley]

Why are we talking about Wild Wild West all of a sudden?

West is West, and DAF is DAF, and never the twain shall meet.

But hold on...wasn't Adam West in the running to play Bond in DAF?
If so,ADAM West nearly did meet DAF....

[Daddy Bond]

Why are we talking about Wild Wild West all of a sudden?

West is West, and DAF is DAF, and never the twain shall meet.

But hold on...wasn't Adam West in the running to play Bond in DAF?
If so,ADAM West nearly did meet DAF....

Yeah, that would have been a perfect fit for the DAF PTS as it stands!

[bond_girl_double07]

Yeah, that would have been a perfect fit for the DAF PTS as it stands!

Adam West as fake Blofeld, tee hee That may not have been a change for the better

[herr blofeld]

Going back to DAF...

DAF is for me one of the worst Bond movies. the acting is poor, the action sequences, I agree with most, that they are badly acted and edited. Tiffany was a morron, so was Plenty, which was very disappointing after Diana Rigg's powerful Tracy. Blofeld was amorron too. Sorry Charles Gray, but your acting did not impress me (And he was not even bald!) Felix Leiter seemed more like an enemy than a friend.

The only two highlights of the movie were, for me, Sean Connery and the Pre-Title Sequences which, although they were wrongly acted and edited, where very amusing and ingenious. I like the idea of Connery "trailing" the spectre of Blofeld with no relenting to avenge the death of his wife (which to my disgust, is not said in the film).

Also, BOND should have been more cruel with Blofeld and so should have Blofeld.

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[Mr. Blofeld]

Going back to DAF...

DAF is for me one of the worst Bond movies. the acting is poor, the action sequences, I agree with most, that they are badly acted and edited. Tiffany was a morron, so was Plenty, which was very disappointing after Diana Rigg's powerful Tracy. Blofeld was amorron too. Sorry Charles Gray, but your acting did not impress me (And he was not even bald!) Felix Leiter seemed more like an enemy than a friend.

The only two highlights of the movie were, for me, Sean Connery and the Pre-Title Sequences which, although they were wrongly acted and edited, where very amusing and ingenious. I like the idea of Connery "trailing" the spectre of Blofeld with no relenting to avenge the death of his wife (which to my disgust, is not said in the film).

Also, BOND should have been more cruel with Blofeld and so should have Blofeld.

You should check out the Diamonds Are Forever rewrite coco1997 and I posted on the Lazenby boards, then; I think it'll be a bit more suited to your tastes.

[Keir]

Why does the patient have a gun in a mudbath and a revolver at that?

Maybe it was an homage to Tuco in The Good, the Bad and the Ugly...

[WatchtheBirdy]

I actually enjoyed the DAF PTS myself. I mean, how could you not like the guard's sideburns?!

[Mr. Blofeld]

I actually enjoyed the DAF PTS myself. I mean, how could you not like the guard's sideburns?!

Erm...

[WatchtheBirdy]

How could you not resist the power of the Sideburn man?

[DaveBond21]

They were very obviously distancing themselves from Lazenby and OHMSS, and set the tone right from the start.

Bond being cordial with Blofeld and vice versa is a disappointment now (I'd seen DAF about 4 times before I ever saw OHMSS). Blofeld should really hate 007 and of course the feeling is mutual. In DAF, Blofeld only gets slightly annoyed with Bond when switching cassette tapes on the oil rig!!