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[00Twelve]

Good point.

[JackWade]

Awesome. Far and away the best news I've heard about Bond 22 yet.

Yeah, but there hasn't been much news...

There will be soon, it appears. We should be getting a look at the script shortly and it appears Eon has their shortlist for directors.

A lot of news in a short period of time... looks like it's time for the Bond news explosion to begin. What a good way to kick it off.

[Jim]

We should be getting a look at the script shortly

I hope not. Not here, anyway.

Still, interesting news.

[DavidSomerset]

Yeah! Bond 22 is on the way to be a great film. This is gonna be Daniel's FRWL...
Now only if Tony Scott (or better his brother Ridley) signs on...

[Gobi-1]

Great news. I hope SONY does whatever it takes to lure Martin Campbell back. I'll chip in a few dollars myself if it will help.

[JackWade]

We should be getting a look at the script shortly

I hope not. Not here, anyway.

Still, interesting news.

Well, LatinoReview is saying that they'll have it soon. That will be interesting considering as it hasn't been polished by Haggis yet. I guess we may get to see a virgin P&W script! Oh hooray.

[RazorBlade]

Latest word is, he'll get round to polishing the script, as soon as he's finished polishing his head.

Followed by a rim shot.

I'm not as excited by Haggis as some of you. But it's okay. I still think there are some great writers out there who could do a smashing job.

[blueman]

I'm curious to see a non-newbie Bond script from P&W&Haggis. P&W did comment that writing for Craig was pretty different, the structure of CR was so carefully plotted out as an introduction to Bond--and now they've done that. So back to TWINE-type mishmash? I hope not.

Very very curious...

[Double-Oh Agent]

Considering the quality of Casino Royale, this can only be good news. I'm a little surprised that EON was able to get him again but pleased nevertheless (having a solid, quality actor like Daniel Craig as James Bond must be quite the drawing card). Also, having Haggis on-board has to be a plus for luring Martin Campbell back into the director's chair. I hope he returns. He's a solid 2 for 2 in 007 films so far so having him for a third movie would be terrific. (And yes, Haggis being offered the Bond 22 director post surprises me greatly.)

As for the so-called "final four" list of Bond 22 directors, I would cross off Marc Forster and Alex Proyas. Forster hasn't done enough action and Proyas doesn't do anything for me. That leaves Tony Scott and Jonathan Mostow. Scott has been hit and miss lately, but I did enjoy Crimson Tide, Enemy Of The State, and Spy Game. Mostow, on the other hand, I'm not sure is proven enough although Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines was pretty decent and I absolutely loved Breakdown. If I had to choose, I'd go with Scott but neither option thrills me at the moment.

[Zorin Industries]

Whoa, I missed that on my first read. They offered it to Haggis to direct. Wow.

Does anyone still believe Haggis' only contribution to CR was a "dialogue polish"?

Course it wasn't...! It was a realisation that Pelvic and Staid are not necessarily the most appropriate of writers when it comes to Bond. There is the phrase "nuanced". These two are unable to achieve that with Bond. Just taking the Bond checklist and tweaking that a bit is not enough.

Haggis is certainly doing more than a polish this time round.

Latest word is, he'll get round to polishing the script, as soon as he's finished polishing his head.

I still think there are some great writers out there who could do a smashing job.

Like who?

Awesome. Far and away the best news I've heard about Bond 22 yet.

Yeah, but there hasn't been much news...

We should be getting a look at the script shortly...

Will we? Why? Every leaked script report and so-called plot spoiler has been grossly wrong. The script is not ours to read surely?

Edited by Zorin Industries, 23 May 2007 - 09:15 AM.

[Zorin Industries]

Forster. He'd do a great job with a Haggis script.

As much as I like the job Campbell did with CR...I'd still worry with him coming back for Bond 22. Maybe the lightning would strike again, but I'm fine with a director like Forster stepping in--"Stranger Than Fiction" was great and I can see what he did with that material translating to him directing a cracking good spy film. Campbell with a standard spy film = GE, which was problematic IMO (notice the liberal waffling: not saying no, just a worry with Campbell...the Haggis rewrite goes a long ways towards assuaging me, though).

I completely agree. Campbell certainly surpassed himself with CASINO ROYALE, but I don't think he should return just yet. The next Bond film needs to ramp it up emotionally and tonally. Campbell is still a tad mainstream for my tastes (and this poster still hasn't forgiven him for the turgid TV movie that was GOLDENEYE...!).

Out of the four alleged director names, Tony Scott is the only one who is historically appropriate. I wouldn't opt for Jonathan Mostow (U-555-571 was okay, but TERMINATOR 3 just proved he was a director for hire - which is not good enough for Bond, in my mind). Marc Forster might have less experience of the action genre - and the last thing the Bond series needs right now is a return to a 'safe' director having the majority of the second unit taken away from him a la THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH.

[Safari Suit]

No Tony Scott, please. Not unless he restrains himself from quickfire cuts.

[manfromjapan]

I don't believe they are seriously considering Scott. I am a big fan, but if you pay him the huge salary he demands (whichSony won't), you expect a Tony Scott film. I think Campbell will be back. To my knowledge, he isn't making anything else at the moment, and he is probably sitting it out, waiting to see if the script (and deal) is right. Why would he commit to a film that has only just had its first draft completed?

[Bucky]

i wonder if haggis will do more with this rewrite then he did with the casino royale script.

i hope that they can get campbell back. as well as baird for editing, he truly is one of the great editors out there and i am suprised he was not on the list for directors being considered.

[Blonde Bond]

Excellent news. I bet Campbell's just sitting in his fortress, following how things progress, before he takes the offer to direct Bond 22.

[jimbo bond 007]

Great news, it is all looking good for Bond 22. I hope they do manage to bring Campbell back as director. Don't get me wrong some of the other directors seemingly in the running are good but it would be great to see Campbell finish what he started with CR.

Can't wait for November 2008 now though.

[Vauxhall]

Wonderful news!! The directors shortlisted here have quite different styles though in my opinion, so it will be interesting to see what direction the producers take.

[Loomis]

While I'd love to see the return of Campbell, I was hoping more for the return of Haggis.

Not bowled over by this list of directors, but I doubt it represents a real "final four".

Like Bucky, I'd be surprised if Baird hasn't been considered for the director's chair. Not only did he edit CASINO ROYALE, but he's an accomplished and successful (if not particularly prolific) director in his own right (EXECUTIVE DECISION shows he can handle Bondian action flicks, while STAR TREK: NEMESIS proves he can direct franchise fare), and he's even old and British (fitting the Traditional Eon Director Profile™). And they apparently offered him DIE ANOTHER DAY to direct.

Still, count me in as someone who still won't count Campbell out.

[Johnboy007]

while STAR TREK: NEMESIS proves he can direct franchise fare

I wouldn't say that to any semi-serious Trek fan without fear of disembowelment or defenestration.

[Zorin Industries]

while STAR TREK: NEMESIS proves he can direct franchise fare

I wouldn't say that to any semi-serious Trek fan without fear of disembowelment or defenestration.

Exactly. And US MARSHALLS was hardly box office gold either. No, Baird would be a dangerous choice for director. Editor yes....

[Orion]

Nemesis wasnt as bad as some ST fans would have you think, i was surprised how good it was after the slandering it got, but i still think Baird should just edit as thats what hes truely good at. Haggis returning is great, cause he is a VERY talented writer. Im hoping Martin Campbell will come back to direct, but i wouldnt complain if they got someone completly new.

[HawkEye007]

No Tony Scott, please. Not unless he restrains himself from quickfire cuts.

That is exactly what I was thinking. Some of those cuts were distracting in Man On Fire. If he did it straight forward like Crimson Tide or Spy Game I think Tony Scott could make a great Bond movie.

Really happy to hear that Paul Haggis will be back. Hopefully we will see some continuity between CR and 22 that has been missing since the Connery era.

[doublenoughtspy]

If that final four list of directors is correct, there could be a huge depature from Eon's stated desire to have a Commonwealth director at the helm.

An American (Mostow) or German? (Forster)

Wow.

[Loomis]

while STAR TREK: NEMESIS proves he can direct franchise fare

I wouldn't say that to any semi-serious Trek fan without fear of disembowelment or defenestration.

Exactly. And US MARSHALLS was hardly box office gold either. No, Baird would be a dangerous choice for director. Editor yes....

Well, those films may not have been "box office gold", but they were still hits. If Eon chose directors on the basis of their commercial track record, would they have rehired Campbell after BEYOND BORDERS?

[Zorin Industries]

while STAR TREK: NEMESIS proves he can direct franchise fare

I wouldn't say that to any semi-serious Trek fan without fear of disembowelment or defenestration.

Exactly. And US MARSHALLS was hardly box office gold either. No, Baird would be a dangerous choice for director. Editor yes....

Well, those films may not have been "box office gold", but they were still hits. If Eon chose directors on the basis of their commercial track record, would they have rehired Campbell after BEYOND BORDERS?

BEYOND BORDERS was released in 2003 and came eight or so years after GOLDENEYE - Campbell's first Bond....

[kitt22]

Great news.
Just hope they get a good director... the ones speculated all look pretty good. Cambell would be great.

[stamper]

Tony Scott, or Alex Proyas, or Martin Campbell. The others can drop in a vacuum they are not movie directors. They are wannabees.

[dodge]

Marvelous news. Now just get Martin Campbell back and we'll be off and running toward two great Bond films cementing Craig's reputation. Greatest Bond since Lazenby.

[Royal Dalton]

BEYOND BORDERS was released in 2003 and came eight or so years after GOLDENEYE - Campbell's first Bond....

Then again, GoldenEye came along just after he'd done No Escape, another flopperoo.

On both occasions, I reckon Campbell needed Bond more than Eon needed him.

[Orion]

with any luck they can break the pattern of an actors second Bond film not being as good (or as successfull) as his first, so far only Sean did that with FRWL.