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Casino Royale has RUINED the Bond franchise


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#61 notnerb

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Posted 03 January 2007 - 01:44 AM

I agree, MooreisMore.

I wanted Q, Moneypenny, gadgets, girls in the titles but there was none.
No big villain - Ian Fleming would disapprove of this story - where was it?
No locations - why not France?
No humour
No good ending - Bond should always end with the girl. Hopefully with the funny jokes
No sets - I was expecting a big battle in the Casino Royale. Wasn't it the baddie's HQ in the original?
No 007 Theme - only came at the end
No proper Bond song - you cannot have the American rock as Bond song. Bring back Shirley Bassey or Carly Simon. They would have done a good song.
Why no Blofeld or big plan? The last few Bond films suffer from this.
I think a lot of peoples have been fooled by Daniel Craig. He is good actor with good body but Bond is not Arnold Schwartzenegger. Daniel is too tough. Roger said that Bond is someone who does not like killing - Daniel does.


So what this guy appears to be saying is "I like all my James Bond films to be tired old rehashes of each other, just give me a few gadgets and a woman whose name is a euphemism for either a sexual act or genitalia and I'm happy".

#62 Mark W

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 09:51 PM

To return to the original thread and its mischievous title.

#63 DaveBond21

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 05:40 AM

I love CR, but I still love the other 20 Bond movies too!!!

#64 witgob

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 05:57 AM

My first post in this forum. Looks an interesting place...

Being a woman of a certain age, it's been interesting to see:
a) What people younger and newer to the franchise think of each Bond, &
:cooltongue: How were they going to win me back?

For the former, some of the sites and forums have been interesting to observe. The Craig bashing has me shaking my head, but I won

#65 Jim

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 06:12 AM

Splendid first post there - welcome to CBn... witgob?

#66 Double-Oh-Zero

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 07:13 AM

[quote name='witgob' post='691770' date='23 January 2007 - 00:57']My first post in this forum. Looks an interesting place...

Being a woman of a certain age, it's been interesting to see:
a) What people younger and newer to the franchise think of each Bond, &
:cooltongue: How were they going to win me back?

For the former, some of the sites and forums have been interesting to observe. The Craig bashing has me shaking my head, but I won

#67 witgob

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 08:14 AM

Why, thank you so much - for the warm welcome.

From many of the posts here, it seems to be a place Bond would be comfortable. Challenging enough not to be boring, but witty enough to keep you interested.

Although I have read and mostly enjoyed 'Casino Royale' the book (and 'Casino Royale's' script), it's interesting reading what some people say Fleming would approve of. I'm not sure Fleming would have approved of some of the things, but then, he was a product of his time, and things have changed.

As a woman, I'm glad they've changed. Because I'm a leetle older, I can appreciate how things have changed - in reality - and through the films. Sean Connery WAS my favourite Bond (but then I always preferred him in Hitchcok's 'Marnie'), but roll over Sean - you are so 20th century. Whilst I love looking at the old movies (sometimes I think reading the scripts would be better), the attitudes really leave me cold. Notice how I rarely mention the gadgets? If I wanted a superhero, I'd watch 'Smallville' or 'Spiderman'.

Eon made a great choice, and as a woman, I really appreciate it.

#68 watchman

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 12:45 PM

CR : best Bond ever.

#69 CM007

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 04:28 PM

Why, thank you so much - for the warm welcome.

From many of the posts here, it seems to be a place Bond would be comfortable. Challenging enough not to be boring, but witty enough to keep you interested.

Although I have read and mostly enjoyed 'Casino Royale' the book (and 'Casino Royale's' script), it's interesting reading what some people say Fleming would approve of. I'm not sure Fleming would have approved of some of the things, but then, he was a product of his time, and things have changed.

As a woman, I'm glad they've changed. Because I'm a leetle older, I can appreciate how things have changed - in reality - and through the films. Sean Connery WAS my favourite Bond (but then I always preferred him in Hitchcok's 'Marnie'), but roll over Sean - you are so 20th century. Whilst I love looking at the old movies (sometimes I think reading the scripts would be better), the attitudes really leave me cold. Notice how I rarely mention the gadgets? If I wanted a superhero, I'd watch 'Smallville' or 'Spiderman'.

Eon made a great choice, and as a woman, I really appreciate it.


Well it

#70 JCRendle

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 05:21 PM

[quote]Well it

#71 JimmyBond

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 06:05 PM

I disagree that EON made a great choice.I still think this reboot will come back to haunt EON....Fads are only around for so long and then they disappear and so far the Reboot idea in Hollywood is just that Fad....



Well...how is it going to come back to haunt them? I'm sorry, but you just made zero sense with that sentence.

#72 JCRendle

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 06:18 PM

I disagree that EON made a great choice.I still think this reboot will come back to haunt EON....Fads are only around for so long and then they disappear and so far the Reboot idea in Hollywood is just that Fad....



Well...how is it going to come back to haunt them? I'm sorry, but you just made zero sense with that sentence.


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#73 jaws_dentist

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Posted 18 February 2007 - 04:33 PM

how is 'rebootin' gonna ruin the franchise ?

it wasnt some heinous cash in fabricated by second rate script writers to keep a franchise goin after many sequels.

its the only decent adaptation of the first flemmin novel after that 60s appallin diversion.

i wanna see daniel craig goin against samuel l jackson in a remake of LALD !

#74 craigisworstbond

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Posted 02 March 2007 - 09:58 PM

i agree to the title of this thread.casino royale was a terrible film and craig the worst bond ever! it took itself WAY too seriously and was about as much fun as getting your teeth pulled.craig is WAY too ugly to be bond and it was impossible to take him seriously as a ladies man!
craig is a good actor but should stick to movies like layer cake and munich.i will say that i thought he might have made a good bond villain or henchman

#75 Publius

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Posted 02 March 2007 - 10:08 PM

i agree to the title of this thread.casino royale was a terrible film and craig the worst bond ever! it took itself WAY too seriously and was about as much fun as getting your teeth pulled.craig is WAY too ugly to be bond and it was impossible to take him seriously as a ladies man!
craig is a good actor but should stick to movies like layer cake and munich.i will say that i thought he might have made a good bond villain or henchman

Is it 2005 again?

Anyway, you might want to read the first post of a thread before agreeing with it.

#76 plankattack

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Posted 02 March 2007 - 10:15 PM

i agree to the title of this thread.casino royale was a terrible film and craig the worst bond ever! it took itself WAY too seriously and was about as much fun as getting your teeth pulled.craig is WAY too ugly to be bond and it was impossible to take him seriously as a ladies man!
craig is a good actor but should stick to movies like layer cake and munich.i will say that i thought he might have made a good bond villain or henchman

Is it 2005 again?

Anyway, you might want to read the first post of a thread before agreeing with it.


Well said Publius! There seems to have been a sudden re-explosion of the old "We want Broz, Craig is rubbish" arugment all over the forums.

The reality is we've moved on and Craig is the guy. I happen to like him. As I say alot, I'm not Brozza's biggest fan but he was still James Bond in every which way - his scripts just let him down a bit. Am I glad Craig is the new guy - yes, but Broz is still the reason the franchise is still around and bigger than ever.

I'm a Bond fan first, regardless of who's playing him and each actor gets my support when he has the role.

Let's move on!

#77 craigisworstbond

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Posted 02 March 2007 - 10:16 PM

oh i see, well, i stand by my opinion anyway.i hope craig makes good on his promise to only do 3 movies,then maybe we can get a REAL james bond actor to play 007!

#78 plankattack

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Posted 02 March 2007 - 10:24 PM

oh i see, well, i stand by my opinion anyway.i hope craig makes good on his promise to only do 3 movies,then maybe we can get a REAL james bond actor to play 007!


Don't get me wrong Craig - I respect your opinion, I really do. And you'll find that everyone on the boards is great in that respect. I myself just happen to be over the whole "Craig is great, no, Craig is rubbish argument."

But we all have our favourite Bonds and our favourite Bond movies. But having been a fan for over thirty years, it's safe to say that there is not a single actor, or single movie that would stop me being a Bond fan, first and foremost.

#79 Blofeld's Cat

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Posted 02 March 2007 - 10:25 PM

Welcome to CBn craigisworstbond.

I think we all now get the picture that you really and truly don't like "The Six (Hundred) Million Dollar Man".

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Posted 02 March 2007 - 10:33 PM

oh i see, well, i stand by my opinion anyway.i hope craig makes good on his promise to only do 3 movies,then maybe we can get a REAL james bond actor to play 007!

I would say the majority here would disagree with your assessment of the merit of Mister Craig and whether he constitutes a "REAL james bond actor" or not. Respectfully, I submit that he is all that and more. That you do not appear to see that is unfortunate; but you will find no agreement from me on your premise.

#81 Publius

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 02:11 AM

oh i see, well, i stand by my opinion anyway.i hope craig makes good on his promise to only do 3 movies,then maybe we can get a REAL james bond actor to play 007!

If Craig only does a trilogy, and if the next two are up to the caliber of CR, then I think he'll prove an impossibly tough act to follow.