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[Johnboy007]

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Along the lines of Gobi's idea. Gunbarrel opens at the villa (no white background, Bond in suit with H&K), shoots Mr. White in the leg. Begin Bond 22. It screws with the gunbarrel, but so have the last two.

[00Twelve]

This isn't so much a prediction as a wish. I'd love to see whatever thrilling action sequence take place with Bond in a good suit (what other kind would he wear?) and at some .5 second-long breather, he rips his tie off and unbuttons his collar to breathe better (as an obvious rejection of the "stop-to-readjust-the-tie" shtick from GE and TWINE). Then, after he's done, he's about to be tardy to meet with M (or someone) and we see the door open on him casually adjusting his tie-knot, he says Good morning (or evening), and it's off to the titles.

[RevolveR]

I would prefer if the whole scene at the villa was left in CR and we started with a continuation of that, but not the saem location in Bond 22. I think a few months in "movie time" need to have passed.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

I would prefer if the whole scene at the villa was left in CR and we started with a continuation of that, but not the saem location in Bond 22. I think a few months in "movie time" need to have passed.

Seconded.

Continuity is nice...but we don't need that much.

[License To Kill]

I would prefer if the whole scene at the villa was left in CR and we started with a continuation of that, but not the saem location in Bond 22. I think a few months in "movie time" need to have passed.

Seconded.

Continuity is nice...but we don't need that much.

It needs to be understood that Bond took Mr. White out back and no need to watch it happen.

[RevolveR]

I think it would be best to hear about White being in Britsh Custody, and that they have "sweated" him for information. The leads that he provides should be the basis for Bond's mission in 22.

[Satorious]

Having seen the film again last night, I just hope Mathis is back in it! Either as an ally or as a more shady character.

Still think we shouldn't know what happened at the end of CR until mid-way through the movie.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

I would prefer if the whole scene at the villa was left in CR and we started with a continuation of that, but not the saem location in Bond 22. I think a few months in "movie time" need to have passed.

Seconded.

Continuity is nice...but we don't need that much.

It needs to be understood that Bond took Mr. White out back and no need to watch it happen.

Quite so.

[EWKDSMB]

i just want to hear a comment about mr white and his lack of kneecaps

but seriously i'm not sure what they will do for PTS but i do think we'll be hearing from Vesper at some point

[WhoIs005?]

I'd like to see Mr. White pulling up to the villa just like after CR, but cut in some new footage of Bond sneaking in as well (cue James Bond theme). Then, show the very end of CR, with the line, and then pickup with Bond grabbing White and taking him inside the Villa-They talk for a bit- and either an associate kills Mr. White or the associates attack Bond, and a chase/fistfight ensues. Then, like Terminus' idea, he receives the Vesper video. What'd be cool is if the video was the title sequence-they'll manage it somehow.

I really like this idea. I think that if they are going to pick it up exactly where it was left off in the PTS, that they should replay the end of CR. It was a short sequence, wasn't it? Showing how bond got there would add a great new angle to get to the same point. Good Thinking. I'm not sure about the Vesper Video Idea for the PTS, I think the PTS should pack punch and then leave you wanting more action before unveiling the story. Well who knows. There are some good ideas on this thread.

[swaz]

It should start off with Vesper explaining her suicide and feelings for Bond in video form. Then we see James Bond at a graveyard sitting on a bench with a phone that has just played the video message. We then see the simple gravestone that reads Vesper Lynd RIP etc. We go back to Bond who is in deep thought staring at the gravestone. He then gets out and lights a cigarette. The cigarette relaxes him and eases him up and he takes notice of the wedding that is taking place at the church. Then a few seconds of looking at what could have been he notices a sniper in the church tower. The sniper shoots the bride dead. Bond gets up and starts to go after the sniper and to Bond's suprise so does the groom. Cue very exciting chase. Bond gets to the sniper first. Bond puts the gun to his head but the groom enters with a gun and Bond, seeing the gun, pushes the sniper into a clear shot for the groom and remarks 'With deepest sympathy'. The groom shoots the sniper dead with such precision that Bond starts to get an inkling he's seen this man before. The groom asks Bond if he could clear this up but with much more skill than he cleared up Le Chiffre. Bond smiles and say's 'So will that be Big Sam's debt paid off then Felix?'

That's what I think should happen.

I LOVE your idea! Goes really well with Craig's Bond! Harkens back to classic Bond (Connery and Lazenby). Great idea!!

[whatisthematrix]

White is locked up in a "secure" safe house. In a dramatic and extravagant rescue mision by the unknown organisation White escapes. No 007 in the opening but still i think it would work and it would also raise the level of importance for Whites character and show that the organisation are efficient. Also i wouldnt be oposed to Bond failing his overall mision in Bond 22 and then completing the task in Bond 23. It would certainly be a twist and make Bond 23 really special.

[pedroarmendariz]

we see the usual gun barrel opening and then a nod to fyeo, bond is standing at the grave of vesper may be reminiscing or feeding his hatred for her and the men who killed her. then a loud ringing interrupts him and he answers the cell burying the weaker bond and allowing the stronger and cold-blooded bond to get his job done. m talks to him to ask if he found out anything from mr. white or if he has a lead. dc in his best dark sense of humor casually shows something to the audience that belonged to mr. white and to imply that he has dealt with him in cold blood after getting the information he wanted. you could also throw in a line along some of his best one from cr to get a chuckle or two. bond then heads off in the direction that whatever lead he got from mr. white and we next see him torturing some guy like in daf, but better. this would touch upon the strong and weak side that dc showed us in cr. it would also show us that if cr happened before ohmss, then vesper's death was a dress rehearsal for tracy's death.

[Thomas Stuart SAS]

Hi. New on the Forum.
I'm totally with Double Oh Agent. Either a semi-torture interrogation with White or Bond chasing down a lead a la Dimaonds are Forever PTS (the best part of that disappointing Connery turnout). It should be a very makeshift interrogation in the villa and Bond should be getting a sinister enjoyment out of it. Specifically, the scene should begin with a close-up on White (all beat up) and trying to be tough and push Bond's buttons about Vesper. Craig's face should be obscured for as long as possible, the focus being on White and the camara almost acting like the white light putting pressure on him. There would be some over the shoulder glimpses of Craig and the back of his head, like Dr. No. Then, White, obviously not breaking, makes Double Oh Agent's "I should have killed you" remark and then Bond's face is shown for the first time as he replies "Yes, you should have." and shoots White, with a sadistic grin on his face (very much Casino Royale PTS style), clicks the safety on and walks past the camara while holstering his pistol and picking up the SMG. Cue the Titles.

Also, to mark Bond as still being rough and being personally entangled with the mission, some time shortly after the Titles, Bond should be getting reamed out by M for going alone on the lead, killing Mr. White out of hand, and not handing him over to the Pros at HQ. Bond replies that they could not have gotten anything else out of White and then presents M with the Intel he did extract and his new lead.

Double Oh Agent, I hope you approve of where my imagination went with your idea. I know this topic has been cold for a couple days, but it really interested me. Any thoughts?


Thomas Stuart, SAS

Edited by Thomas Stuart SAS, 09 December 2006 - 05:20 PM.

[Tinfinger]

Just to be ballsy, have it begin with the end of the movie and just tell the rest of the movie backwards. And when people ask the producers any questions, they can try and pretend they have never heard of Chris Nolan

[MR. BOND 93]

I think it should start the gunbarrel and then we see Mr. White pulling up to the villa and keep going with that until Bond say's "The name's Bond... James Bond". Then the camera zooms out and it shows Craig draggin Mr. White by his jacket into the villa. When the people inside see the wounded Mr. White, they panick and run out, some calling 911. Bond drags White through the villa, and enters a room marked 'PRIVATE'. Bond quickly ties Mr. White's arms to a dresser. Bond walks out onto a balcony and calls M. We can't hear what he is saying. While bond is outside, White takes out his cell phone and pages his henchmen. Once Bond is off the phone he goes in and sits on the bed. He says, 'Tell me about Vesper.' Mr. White laughs and says 'I should of killed you.' Bond gets up angrily, grabs his UMP9, walks up behing Mr. White and points the gun to his head and says, 'Yes, you should have.' Then shoots him in the head. Bond takes White's cell phone out of his pocket, but the door busts open and White's henchmen runs in and has a fight scene with Craig, but Craig throws him over the balcony.

Then I can't think of how to end it...

Edited by MR. BOND 93, 09 December 2006 - 10:07 PM.

[00Twelve]

First, as I've said before, I don't think it will pick up with White. But if it did, I think it would be a good choice to not have Bond kill him, unless he somehow threatens Bond's life. That might set up or support his not liking to kill in cold blood. I think that if this scene were to happen, Bond should maybe get what info he can, shoot the other knee, take the phone, and bid White a fond farewell, driving off in White's car. Unless White were to have some cyanide, a la Mr. Jones. That'd be a little convenient, but I'm just rambling now and okay, take care.

[Matt_13]

This is my idea: the PTS will start off with Bond standing over White, glaring down at him. White makes a comment like "I was wondering when I'd be hearing from you" or something like that and after a few cold referrences to Vesper, Bond begins his interrogation, during which we find out that Vespers boyfriend wasn't kidnapped at all, in fact, he's Mr. Whites superior who arranged the whole thing, looking for a way to benifit himself and his organization with the winnings from the card game. Just before White can devulge any more information, he gets shot through neck from a sniper positioned in one of the windows in the villa. Bond then enters the villa, there's a small scale chase scene through the various rooms inside, chandeliers getting shot from the ceiling, stuff like that. The sequence ends with the sniper escaping via motorboat. Bond then makes his way over to Whites body, checks the pockets, then notices an interresting ring on the mans right pinky finger. He extracts it and from a close up we see it's the skull symbol for SPECTRE. That cuts into the MTS. Not the best idea but i kinda like it.

[00Twelve]

I just had a great (alleged) idea for the PTS if they were to go the LALD route. (Don't hit your back button yet, please!)

I could see the film opening on the exterior of a NY hotel room, slowly zooming in to show Bond arriving with Felix and Captain Dexter, and they exchange some warm sentiments and make plans for dinner, and after they leave, Bond has a shower. When he emerges, there is a parting gift there on the sideboard next to the door. As Bond decides not to open it yet, assuming it's from the CIA or FBI, he re-enters the bedroom and goes about getting dressed. As he again emerges from the bedroom, he opens the balcony door and sits down to relax on the sofa, and then he hears it. A faint clock tick. He notices there aren't any analog clocks in the room, and discovers it's coming from the direction of the package. He dives behind the sofa, feeling stupid, to hear the tick strike an old alarm clock bell, which rings for a few seconds, so Bond stands up to walk to the package, but the alarm slows down, down, down... With a fast high pitched electronic sound (like the DAD sonic ring), Bond turns and takes a flying leap for the balcony, and flips around just in time to catch the railing as he goes over it. The blast barely misses him, debris going over his head, and he eventually pulls himself back over onto the balcony. As he looks down, he sees a man dressed as a bellboy (whatever they're called now) running out of the hotel and gets a cab. Knowing he can't catch the guy, Bond dejectedly turns back to the shambles of his living room, thankful that there wasn't more damage done, heads out to the hall, and as he opens the door, he finds an envelope with his name on it. He smells it, checks to make sure it doesn't contain any kind of explosive, and opens it, to find a tri-folded letter inside. When he opens it, his eyes narrow as he reads the message: "Mr. Bond, the heart of this clock has stopped beating. The beats of your own heart are numbered. I know that number and have started to count." It is signed "1234567...?" Music rises as the camera slowly zooms in on Bond's face, then on the signature, then his face, then the signature, then fade from the signature into titles.

After the titles, A shot of London with the subtitles, "Two Weeks Earlier."

The logistics are a little contrived, but...meh?

[Andrew]

I'd like to see the PTS open with the gun barrel and then have the rest of the sequence be an adaption of the FaVtaK short story, with the motorcycle chase. Perhaps the courier could be carrying Mr. White's money, leading Bond to him.

I'd like to save what happened to White until later in the film.

[Craig is 007]

I hope the PTS opens with the traditional gunbarrel sequence but I dont think that the PTS in Bond 22 should be at Mr. Whites villa, and start right where CR ended. I think it would be better if someone like Villiers told M about it after the PTS or something like that.
I like the idea about a motorcycle chase, where Bond is chasing the person who has the money.

[HawkEye007]

I agree with everyone who says it should start right where CR ended. I think the gunbarrel should back to normal, and when it pulls away we're look through Bond's scope as he watches Mr. White get out of the car. The the PTS continues from there. Bond works him over a little bit to get some info,and Mr. White gives him the Vesper recording before they are interupted by some of his thugs. They have a shoot out and Bond escapes with the recording and then we go into the main titles.

[dodge]

I just had a great (alleged) idea for the PTS if they were to go the LALD route. (Don't hit your back button yet, please!)

I could see the film opening on the exterior of a NY hotel room, slowly zooming in to show Bond arriving with Felix and Captain Dexter, and they exchange some warm sentiments and make plans for dinner, and after they leave, Bond has a shower. When he emerges, there is a parting gift there on the sideboard next to the door. As Bond decides not to open it yet, assuming it's from the CIA or FBI, he re-enters the bedroom and goes about getting dressed. As he again emerges from the bedroom, he opens the balcony door and sits down to relax on the sofa, and then he hears it. A faint clock tick. He notices there aren't any analog clocks in the room, and discovers it's coming from the direction of the package. He dives behind the sofa, feeling stupid, to hear the tick strike an old alarm clock bell, which rings for a few seconds, so Bond stands up to walk to the package, but the alarm slows down, down, down... With a fast high pitched electronic sound (like the DAD sonic ring), Bond turns and takes a flying leap for the balcony, and flips around just in time to catch the railing as he goes over it. The blast barely misses him, debris going over his head, and he eventually pulls himself back over onto the balcony. As he looks down, he sees a man dressed as a bellboy (whatever they're called now) running out of the hotel and gets a cab. Knowing he can't catch the guy, Bond dejectedly turns back to the shambles of his living room, thankful that there wasn't more damage done, heads out to the hall, and as he opens the door, he finds an envelope with his name on it. He smells it, checks to make sure it doesn't contain any kind of explosive, and opens it, to find a tri-folded letter inside. When he opens it, his eyes narrow as he reads the message: "Mr. Bond, the heart of this clock has stopped beating. The beats of your own heart are numbered. I know that number and have started to count." It is signed "1234567...?" Music rises as the camera slowly zooms in on Bond's face, then on the signature, then his face, then the signature, then fade from the signature into titles.

After the titles, A shot of London with the subtitles, "Two Weeks Earlier."

The logistics are a little contrived, but...meh?

00Twelve. You rascal. I could really go for that, or something like it. It would be a realtively short PTS and one lacking the pyrotechnics we've pretty much come to expect. But what I like is the focus and I can see Craig making this into a riveting opening.

[JimmyBond]

I would actually cut out mentioning Le Chiffre's name, it just makes the sentence to long. Cut it down to "I should have killed when I had the chance." Short and to the point.

[mister-white]

My prediction is that 22 will start where CR ended, an extended version of the scene where Bond shoots Mr. White. And it wouldn't be extended that much, Bond will introduce himself, than through Mr. White's POV, Bond takes out a small gun and shoots him, as Mr. White blacks out, so does the film, which leads to the titles. Then the rest of his interogation will be right after the titles.

[chris-o]

Bond 22 will start with the gunbarrel. Then we'll see him driving his DB5 to the MI6 and gets there some infos about the henchmans. A few times later you see Mathis running away from the MI6, after he had an phonecall from his unknown boss. Bond recognize that and follows him to the meeting place (like the Madagascar Rundown). Suddenly when Bond had reached the rooftop Mathis got killed by an unknown person, who is sitting in an helicopter. Bond shoots on the helicopter, but they could fly away. Bond says "Bad mistake!" and then the opening will starts.

[Ace Roberts]

There was an action sequence planned for the end of GoldenEye that was dropped because of budget constraints that had an exciting helicopter chase and subsequent parachute escape. I'm doing this by memory - so I might be off on accuracy - but as I remember - it involved Bond free-falling into a valley or deep hole that allowed him to activate the parachute below sea-level. He escapes where as his pursuer dies hitting the ground. I could easily see the next film opening with a helicopter landing to collect Bond & White and then being attacked by other helicopters from the Organization. An exciting chase occurs zipping in and out of the mountain terrain and over the lake and ends with one of the helicopters crashing into Bond's. He escapes by parachute - but so did one of the Oraganization. They battle over the one parachute as they race toward the ground. Bond kicks the guy free who plows into the mountain and Bond escapes. I realize this is similar to Moonraker - but the producers thought different enough to include in the script of GoldenEye. Just an idea.

Edited by Ace Roberts, 25 April 2007 - 03:59 PM.

[sharpshooter]

Id like to see Craig outdoors more, ala African Rundown. Bond being pinned down by a helicopter full of gaurds gunfire. Bond manages to extract information before this happens, regarding his laptop data.

White is carried away, and they destroy the villa with a self destruct. Bond manages to get Vesper's recorded message from the computer, and escapes the villa, cut up and bloodied.

This then gives Craig's Bond the oppurtinity to glare fiercely at the helicopter flying away, his revenge escalating.

Edited by sharpshooter, 25 April 2007 - 01:43 PM.

[Mr. Wint]

This scene came in my dream last night. Serious. Very uncanny. It pretty sexy:

Opening Bond gun-barrel animation opens to....

EXT. EVENING WS Royal Forbidden City, all quiet.
(Caption: BEIJING)
CUT TO
INT. MWS Royal Forbidden City.
After all the tourists left, museum guard locking up front door.
Bond is already inside. Talking to museum administrators in the office.

Museum Administrator:
"Thank you Mr. Bond for personally guarding the return of this valuable jade
artifact back to the Chinese government. We lost it after the second world
war to grave-diggers, then it was sold to the Royal Museum of Britain. It
was a generous act of your government to return it to us as a token of
friendship between our governments."

Suddenly, museum alarm heard, guards running to the main exhibition hall
where the precious jade pendant was displayed. Only to find out it was
gone.

Bond saw a dark figure running along the roof of the Museum and begins to
chase after it. The dark figure wears a tight black leather catsuit and a
mask that covers most of the face except the bright red lips. One can easily
identifies that the burglar is a woman.

Bond and four guards skilled in the Martial Arts chase the burglar. Other
guards, ordered not to shoot around valuable objects inside the Forbidden
City, are told to set up blockades along corridors instead. The chase
continues in dark hallways and continues up on the roof of the museum. Bond
finally caught up with the burglar. A fight begins. The burglar uses all
kinds of martial arts skills to delay and combat Bond. Bond never
discouraged.

During the fight, Bond ripped one of the black gloves wore by the burglar
revealing a small red tattoo on her wrist. That's the mark of the burglar
.

The burglar finally shoots a net from a weapon from her gear and Bond was
entangled inside the net. She hops onto a black motorbike parked outside the
Forbidden City and escaped towards downtown Beijing.

Bond continues to chase in his new Jaguar. The motorcycle and the Jag
zigzig along brightly lit busy streets of downtown Beijing. Finally the
burglar disappears into big crowds of pedestrians. Bond lost her.

Bond's cellphone rings. A text message for him that says:

"Sorry....Property of a Lady."

Theme music starts. Dissolves to opening animation:

"DANIEL CRAIG as IAN FLEMING'S JAMES BOND 007 in"
"PROPERTY OF A LADY"
"starring"
"SHU QI" .....

I woke up.

[JimmyBond]

Pretty good dream, would make a heck of an opening for a Bond film. If only my Bond dreams were that detailed.