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[DamnCoffee]

I'm really interested to hear what other CBn members feel what should happen in the pre-titles of Bond 22.

[00Twelve]

Well, I am thinking it might begin where CR leaves off...Bond has White, and perhaps another of White's associates caps him before Bond can get much, sending Bond into a chase to find the man. I would be elated if they get trapped in the same building and we see a quiet hunt, similar to FRWL's PTS but with a more tense, Bond-barely-makes-it ending. I also wouldn't mind the post-title film picking up sometime after that...like a matter of weeks or more.

[shady ginzo]

Given Barbara Broccoli's recent comments that Bond #22 would pick up "unfinished business" left behind from Casino Royale, a get the idea that a montage / recap of the events of Casino Royale will feature somewhere in the PTS. as for anything else, personally I think any concepts we could throw in would be very imaginative, but most likely end up miles off the mark!

[JimmyBond]

Perhaps this should be moved to the Bond 22 spoiler forum? I have a few ideas of what I think should, could happend, but I don't want to spoil CR for anyone.

[MR. BOND 93]

I think it'd be cool if they do the whole PTS in black and white like in CR. They could make it like a new tradition thing... similar to the naked ladies that used to be in the title song back in the old franchise.

Perhaps this should be moved to the Bond 22 spoiler forum? I have a few ideas of what I think should, could happend, but I don't want to spoil CR for anyone.

I agree. I don't want anyone to spoil the whole entire CR movie for me!

[terminus]

Bond has White, but White gets away. Bond, with a portable HD/transmitter, tries to get information from White's computer but it's encrypted and thugs intervene. White remotely detonates an explosive, destroying the villa and Bond, defeating the thugs with a sword taken from a suit of armor, barely escapes the explosion.

After the credit seqeunce, it's a few weeks later and Bond is in the shooting gallery at MI6, bemoaning Major Boothroyd (a female, to distance us as much as possible from the Llewellyn/Cleese versions, potentially played by Anna Chancellor) when he's called to see M by Villiers, who says they recieved a package from the Treasury today and he thinks Bond will want to see it (this leads into the Vesper video, revealing to MI6 her motivations and her trump card, the ID of an assasin of the organisation, so we basically use the novel of TMWTGG as the main plot, mix in some of the novel of TSWLM and the end of the YOLT novel and we get a movie entitled Risico).

[Vauxhall]

I think it'd be cool if they do the whole PTS in black and white like in CR. They could make it like a new tradition thing... similar to the naked ladies that used to be in the title song back in the old franchise.

I see where you're coming from but the significance of the black and white in CASINO ROYALE is simply to illustrate Bond before his 00-status. The moment he gets that is when the colour cuts in to show his new found freedom with his licence to kill. At least that's how I see it - a bit arty, but a nice gimmick I think.

Love your ideas Terminus - that would be very nice indeed to see. I particularly like how you've linked everything together. No complaints from me if that was the BOND 22 pre titles.

[Monsieur B]

Given Barbara Broccoli's recent comments that Bond #22 would pick up "unfinished business" left behind from Casino Royale, a get the idea that a montage / recap of the events of Casino Royale will feature somewhere in the PTS. as for anything else, personally I think any concepts we could throw in would be very imaginative, but most likely end up miles off the mark!

"In the last James Bond movie..."

That would be great! A montage of quick clips summarizing Casino Royale in a matter of a minute with accompanying narration done by the voice of that anonymous movie trailer guy!

[DamnCoffee]

or a flashback

[Satorious]

Well, I'm hoping we pick up on Bond following up on a lead and that we don't actually learn exactly what happened at the end of CR until futher into Bond 22. It's more dramatically exciting to keep us guessing until further in...

[HellIsHere]

After the gun barrel opening, Bond 22 will feature a very short eye-popping action sequence with a real outrageous incredible stunt. Then the film is going to take the same route of Casino Royale: a real classy adult thriller with an exciting plot deploying a brand new terrorist organization led by the enigmatic Mr. White. There

Edited by HellIsHere, 10 November 2006 - 02:05 PM.

[Gobi-1]

Personally I think the pre-credits for Bond 22 should open with the traditional gunbarrel.

Spoiler

The gunbarrel then opens up with the very last scene from Casino Royale. The dot centers in on Mr. White's car and opens up to reveal him driving to the Italian villa. The scene plays exactly as it does in Casion Royale so that the last line of CR, "Mr. White we need to talk..." [gunshot] "...my name is Bond, James Bond.", is the first line of Bond 22. We then get Mr. White's reaction and the film starts from there.

[JameswpBond]

It should start off with Vesper explaining her suicide and feelings for Bond in video form. Then we see James Bond at a graveyard sitting on a bench with a phone that has just played the video message. We then see the simple gravestone that reads Vesper Lynd RIP etc. We go back to Bond who is in deep thought staring at the gravestone. He then gets out and lights a cigarette. The cigarette relaxes him and eases him up and he takes notice of the wedding that is taking place at the church. Then a few seconds of looking at what could have been he notices a sniper in the church tower. The sniper shoots the bride dead. Bond gets up and starts to go after the sniper and to Bond's suprise so does the groom. Cue very exciting chase. Bond gets to the sniper first. Bond puts the gun to his head but the groom enters with a gun and Bond, seeing the gun, pushes the sniper into a clear shot for the groom and remarks 'With deepest sympathy'. The groom shoots the sniper dead with such precision that Bond starts to get an inkling he's seen this man before. The groom asks Bond if he could clear this up but with much more skill than he cleared up Le Chiffre. Bond smiles and say's 'So will that be Big Sam's debt paid off then Felix?'

That's what I think should happen.

Edited by JameswpBond, 18 November 2006 - 10:40 PM.

[00Twelve]

K, I'm gonna change my opinion, now that I've actually seen this film. I don't think it will start at the end of CR. I think it'll pick up sometime afterward. Bond might be on his own, or on assignment, but he'll be on the hunt for some of "them," which will later set him up as being hunted in response during the film (kind of like Munich).

[EyesOnly]

I see it working like this: the PTS does not start where CR ended, but some sort of interesting scene that relates to the major part of the story...we then view the main titles which remind us what went on during CR much like the main titles in OHMSS! How they do it I don't know! But I think that would be very cool!

[darthbond]

or a flashback

I agree. Flashbacks seem more apporate for the franchise at this new time and place we are in. A flashback showing the last moments of Vesper, :`(
then Craig narrating on what Vesper turned out to be,(end flashback) thrn showing at a torture with Mr. White. Halfway through the scene, an alarm sounds, a firefight erupts and Mr. White is killed in the process. The rest of the movie deals with Bond finding out about SPECTRE. That is what I think should happen.

darthbond

[Doubl07]

[quote name='HellIsHere' post='643831' date='10 November 2006 - 14:04']
After the gun barrel opening, Bond 22 will feature a very short eye-popping action sequence with a real outrageous incredible stunt. Then the film is going to take the same route of Casino Royale: a real classy adult thriller with an exciting plot deploying a brand new terrorist organization led by the enigmatic Mr. White. There

[Vauxhall]

I'm feeling more and more that Bond doesn't kill Mr White at the end of CASINO ROYALE, so I expect perhaps an interrogation sequence to take place at some point. Perhaps back at MI6. I would certainly like to see a larger role from Mr White in BOND 22 perhaps working alongside Bond and MI6, giving out some pieces of information, but very gradually and under duress. I enjoyed Mr White's brief appearances in CASINO ROYALE - surprisingly menacing.

[Double-Oh Agent]

Personally I think the pre-credits for Bond 22 should open with the traditional gunbarrel.

Spoiler

The gunbarrel then opens up with the very last scene from Casino Royale. The dot centers in on Mr. White's car and opens up to reveal him driving to the Italian villa. The scene plays exactly as it does in Casion Royale so that the last line of CR, "Mr. White we need to talk..." [gunshot] "...my name is Bond, James Bond.", is the first line of Bond 22. We then get Mr. White's reaction and the film starts from there.

I like your idea Gobi. I wonder if they've already filmed the rest of that scene so it would match up with Casino Royale when Bond 22 is filmed in two year's time. Craig will probably have slightly longer hair in Bond 22 so the need to have already filmed the scene makes sense. Besides, then the crew wouldn't have to go back to Italy to film in the same location twice.

Anyway, as for my suggestion for Bond 22's PTS, I say they follow Gobi's idea of starting with Bond's confrontation with Mr. White. Bond tries to extract information about White's employers but White hangs tough even making mention of Vesper's betrayal and subsequent death and Bond's failure to save her. This enrages Bond who either applies pressure to White's wound or shoots him in the other leg. At this point White gives in from the pain and tells Bond the name of the organization and where to find the next link in the terrorist pipeline. When he is satisfied that he has all the answers that he will get from White, Bond asks him if he has any last words. White nods and says, "I should have killed you with Le Chiffre on the boat when I had the chance." To which Bond replies, "Yes, you should have." And then he blows White away. The camera then cuts to Bond who has an emotionless, hard-edged look about him.

From that point, depending on the PTS length, EON could then cut to the main titles or cut to Bond tracking down White's lead in a similar fashion to Diamonds Are Forever for a quick, entertaining scuffle where he either learns the identity of the next ranking terrorist bigshot or gets an inkling into the terrorist organization's next big plot. Personally, I prefer the latter scenario because despite the Craig films' new hard-edged grittiness, a PTS comprised solely of Bond semi-torturing a bad guy might not go over too well with audiences.

Regardless, whichever way EON goes should be exciting. They have definitely laid the groundwork for an interesting follow-up adventure that is full of possibilities.

[Gobi-1]

There was a rumor a while back that the pre-credits for Bond 22 had already been film. Maybe they have been. If Bond 22 picks up with Bond and White at the villa it would make sense that they would go ahead and film it.

White nods and says, "I should have killed you with Le Chiffre on the boat when I had the chance." To which Bond replies, "Yes, you should have." And then he blows White away. The camera then cuts to Bond who has an emotionless, hard-edged look about him.

[terminus]

New concept:


Kinda like CR, we open with the PTS splitting between two locales, Bond being briefed by M and a convoy taking Mr White to a secure detention facility. M pretty much describes the convoy and explains that White was fearful about giving information out - and never spilled, thus they then sent him to the SDF but the convoy was attacked en-route by a sniper who took out the escorts, the guards in the truck and then let Mr White out, only to shoot him in the head (we, of course see this). The good thing to come out of this is, however, that they have a new lead - (as the assasin unmasks himself to reveal a handsome Mediterranean-esque man) - Mr Sanguinetti.

[Waffles, James Waffles.]

I'd like to see Mr. White pulling up to the villa just like after CR, but cut in some new footage of Bond sneaking in as well (cue James Bond theme). Then, show the very end of CR, with the line, and then pickup with Bond grabbing White and taking him inside the Villa-They talk for a bit- and either an associate kills Mr. White or the associates attack Bond, and a chase/fistfight ensues. Then, like Terminus' idea, he receieves the Vesper video. What'd be cool is if the video was the title sequence-they'll manage it somehow.

[Gobi-1]

The title sequence could take place inside the electronic componets of Vesper's cell phone and use imagery of wireless communication and the internet. Sort of an electronic trail for Bond to follow.

[JimmyBond]

The title sequence could take place inside the electronic componets of Vesper's cell phone and use imagery of wireless communication and the internet. Sort of an electronic trail for Bond to follow.

Perhaps the theme of Casino Royale's titles could carry on into Bond 22. With Bond chasing a video trail (literally) along the circuit board of Vesper's cell.

[AgentPB]

or a flashback

I would rather, if they did a flashback at all, they do it in the movie as it is relevant. If you want to show why Bond has such a great sense of loss make him pick up Vespers sea shell and see her smiling in his mind. PTS should be for action.

It should start off with Vesper explaining her suicide and feelings for Bond in video form. Then we see James Bond at a graveyard sitting on a bench with a phone that has just played the video message. We then see the simple gravestone that reads Vesper Lynd RIP etc. We go back to Bond who is in deep thought staring at the gravestone. He then gets out and lights a cigarette. The cigarette relaxes him and eases him up and he takes notice of the wedding that is taking place at the church. Then a few seconds of looking at what could have been he notices a sniper in the church tower. The sniper shoots the bride dead. Bond gets up and starts to go after the sniper and to Bond's suprise so does the groom. Cue very exciting chase. Bond gets to the sniper first. Bond puts the gun to his head but the groom enters with a gun and Bond, seeing the gun, pushes the sniper into a clear shot for the groom and remarks 'With deepest sympathy'. The groom shoots the sniper dead with such precision that Bond starts to get an inkling he's seen this man before. The groom asks Bond if he could clear this up but with much more skill than he cleared up Le Chiffre. Bond smiles and say's 'So will that be Big Sam's debt paid off then Felix?'

That's what I think should happen.

I like that idea. We defiantly need to see a video from Vesper. After seeing the movie this weekend i am in love with Eva Green!

[Gobi-1]

The title sequence could take place inside the electronic componets of Vesper's cell phone and use imagery of wireless communication and the internet. Sort of an electronic trail for Bond to follow.

Perhaps the theme of Casino Royale's titles could carry on into Bond 22. With Bond chasing a video trail (literally) along the circuit board of Vesper's cell.

Exactly.

[MR. BOND 93]

After seeing the film...

I hope it picks up exactly where CR left off... and I mean EXACTLY.

Like right after he says "The name's Bond... James Bond".

[SecretAgent007]

I wouldn't be at all surprised if they have already shot the PTS for 22 ( I like Gobi-1's idea and it seems like the most plausible way to go) I would think they might have done the Vesper stuff too. This would explain why they started working on the script for 22 so early.

Edited by SecretAgent007, 20 November 2006 - 10:24 PM.

[MR. BOND 93]

White nods and says, "I should have killed you with Le Chiffre on the boat when I had the chance." To which Bond replies, "Yes, you should have." And then he blows White away. The camera then cuts to Bond who has an emotionless, hard-edged look about him.

Whoahhhh!!!!

That is perfect!!!

Where did you find that?

[Double-Oh Agent]

White nods and says, "I should have killed you with Le Chiffre on the boat when I had the chance." To which Bond replies, "Yes, you should have." And then he blows White away. The camera then cuts to Bond who has an emotionless, hard-edged look about him.

Whoahhhh!!!!

That is perfect!!!

Where did you find that?

Thanks. Glad you liked it. It's actually from my post which is #19 on this thread.