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[bond_girl_double07]

how in the world can roger be the worst bond when ...Ian Fleming wanted roger to play the role before anyone!!!!!?

PWN3D.

Yea that pretty much does it right there.....PWN3D indeed

In the early 1960's, I would have absolutely agreed with Fleming (and I see why he would have prefered Moore to Connery initially).. Few men have ever been as attractive and debonair as Roger Moore in the early part of his career.. he was absolutely breathtaking, and had that air of aristocratic playboy about him (has anybody else seen "The Sins of Rachel Cade"? DAMN!) I almost wonder if Fleming liked him so well because he reminded him of a younger version of himself? Just a thought..

Unfortunately (or very fortunately) the producers went with Connery, and by the time he finally retired, Moore was several years older and Fleming was gone.. I love Connery and he was obviously the right choice for the job, it's just too bad for RM..

[moorebond82]

I really don't know if it was to bad for roger moore he is one of the big two to play bond(the other being sean) and plenty of his bonds are not only very popular with the fans but were big hits in the box office as well,but i think the time was right.Who knows how roger would have done if he played bond in the 60's? I think sean was right for bond in the 60's as was lazenby to a extent and roger was right for bond in the 70's and 80's(my favorite bond era)

[Spurrier]

I really don't know if it was to bad for roger moore he is one of the big two to play bond(the other being sean) and plenty of his bonds are not only very popular with the fans but were big hits in the box office as well,but i think the time was right.Who knows how roger would have done if he played bond in the 60's? I think sean was right for bond in the 60's as was lazenby to a extent and roger was right for bond in the 70's and 80's(my favorite bond era)

Things turned out fine for Roger. He got to play Bond 7 times, including some of the best movies in the series. His time as Bond made him lots of money, gave him legendary status, made a name for himself rather than "just another actor", and afforded him the opportunity to use his fame for improving the quality of life of children around the world (UNICEF). That's not a "bad" life if you ask me.

[Spurrier]

To add one other thing about Roger's portrayal of Bond: Roger played the role the way the producers wanted to play it at the time. He gets criticized by some as playing it too light, not serious enough. But that's what the producers sensed the public was in the mood for in those days. That's what they thought would keep the franchise going. The producers started down that road before Moore. The Moore era really started with Diamonds Are Forever with Connery. But Roger Moore was better at playing Roger Moore than Sean Connery was. Roger was not the coach. He was the quarterback who carried out the game plan that the coaches planned. And Rog carried out that game plan very well, as evidenced by the box office receipts and his 12 years on the job.

[Lady Templar]

(has anybody else seen "The Sins of Rachel Cade"? DAMN!)

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[00Twelve]

Pretty dang Flemingesque in his appearance back then (even the comma of hair), minus the chin that he could crack a walnut with.

[Zorin Industries]

Is this a wind up?

I think it might be - or another example of a bitter Brosnanaphile still annoyed that the Pierce "The first film I saw when I got off the boat in the UK was Goldfinger, did I mention that again?" Brosnan wasn't cast in every spy film going.

Roger Moore deserves more praise than any other Bond actor. He steered the series through two culturally turbulent decades that any other actor would have hit the rocks with. Yes, his films had slices of prime ham here and there, but he did more abroad and internationally for the face of BOND than Connery or Brosnan. Furthermore, he never turned his back and wallet on the Broccolis whereas Connery was - and still is - a money-grabbing charlatan with the morals and loyalty of an alley-cat. "I hate Bond and want to disassociate myself from it forever........ well, not until I've taken this weighty cheque to do the voiceovers for a FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE computer game!".

Just my opinion. It's maybe a tad more valid than a Brosnanaphile's stirring of the brown stuff....

[rogermoore007]

(has anybody else seen "The Sins of Rachel Cade"? DAMN!)

Here is a photo of this film:

He looks uglier than crap and I can't stop looking at that mole!!

[bond_girl_double07]

This thread suddenly went from "Does anybody else think RM is the worst Bond" to "Anybody who doesn't think Moore is the personification of god on earth can go to hell"

I was trying to be diplomatic but here goes.. I really do like Roger Moore as an actor, I like his non-Bond stuff. Occassionally, I even want to see one of his Bond films (hey, TSWLM isn't bad and I like LALD). But he just doesn't play the character in the way that Fleming wrote the character. If you don't care about textual accuracy, fine, enjoy the films. But it bothers me, and I think playing the character in a flippant way is an insult to what really are some amazing books. Do I think that it's all Moore's fault? absolutely not.. The producers went with what was popular obviously. I just don't think it's funny to around with the novels I really really love because it was "in fashion" or whatever.. that's a fancy way of saying you're bending to draw in the mighty dollar (yeah, Zorin, Moore chased the buck too.. he's an actor.. he likes to get paid just like everybody else.. ohhh well).

And growing up in the era is no excuse.. I was born in '82 and the first bond film I saw was Octopussy.. After the books, I couldn't go back..

Don't hate me haters.. I'm sure there's a thread somewhere for the lovers of Roger Moore.. this one was actually started to question his effect on the series, so that's what we're doing..

[Spurrier]

This thread suddenly went from "Does anybody else think RM is the worst Bond" to "Anybody who doesn't think Moore is the personification of god on earth can go to hell"

I was trying to be diplomatic but here goes.. I really do like Roger Moore as an actor, I like his non-Bond stuff. Occassionally, I even want to see one of his Bond films (hey, TSWLM isn't bad and I like LALD). But he just doesn't play the character in the way that Fleming wrote the character. If you don't care about textual accuracy, fine, enjoy the films. But it bothers me, and I think playing the character in a flippant way is an insult to what really are some amazing books. Do I think that it's all Moore's fault? absolutely not.. The producers went with what was popular obviously. I just don't think it's funny to around with the novels I really really love because it was "in fashion" or whatever.. that's a fancy way of saying you're bending to draw in the mighty dollar (yeah, Zorin, Moore chased the buck too.. he's an actor.. he likes to get paid just like everybody else.. ohhh well).

And growing up in the era is no excuse.. I was born in '82 and the first bond film I saw was Octopussy.. After the books, I couldn't go back..

Don't hate me haters.. I'm sure there's a thread somewhere for the lovers of Roger Moore.. this one was actually started to question his effect on the series, so that's what we're doing..

Don't hate you. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. And there's a Bond portrayal for everyone's taste. By the way, Craig probably is the only one thus far to play a pure Fleming Bond. And I like him too. Most often, books turned into films are not recognizable. While I actually grew up in the Connery era, Moore is my favorite. Roger Moore's effect on the series will be felt long after he is gone because he did 7 of the movies. At some point in the future, Bond producers may decide the time is right again for a Bond like Moore/Brosnan. If they do, Roger Moore's will be a high standard to match.

[bond_girl_double07]

And there's a Bond portrayal for everyone's taste.

And that's the point really.. Other than Lazenby, there isn't a single actor that I would have thrown out. Moore isn't my favorite, but I still like his films. I don't regularly watch the Brosnan films (other than Goldeneye), but I'm glad he was Bond.. each actor added his own flair, and I like some of the suaveness that Moore brought to the part.

[RazorBlade]

RM did the best he could with what he was given which was a load of crap. The mood at the studios in the 70's and 80's did not facilitate great film making. So RM is okay. But not great because the films weren't great. Sir Sean's attitude outside the studio may not be to everyone's liking but he's hardly the first actor to publically turn his back on his previous work. I'm a huge fan of Joss Whedon's work- there's a director for Bond- and it is disheartening to hear Sarah Geller (Buffy) or Alyson Hannigan (Willow) or any of the others say they never want to play those characters again. But we love them in those roles and it was a great time for whatever reason for them to do what they did.

To recap, RM is a great actor but film making is a colaborative effort. RM couldn't make or break those films by himself. I wish RM could have had that environment and that team to make a truly great Bond film. Too bad for RM and for us. And for 007.

[DaveBond21]

Is this Mr Bond 93, actually 13 years old as his name suggests?


He certainly sounds it.

[Damien Hunt]

Roger is most certainly not the worst. Sure, he happened to be in the worst one of all time (Moonraker), but I think License to Kill was almost just as bad. To me, Dalton was the worst. Dalton played the role, way too seriously, and his one-liners seemed a little forced.

I would agree that Roger got too old to play the part. He looked like a Grandpa in AVTAK, but he still played a good sophisticated secret agent.

[OVERLORD]

Rog was a joke, pigeons doing double takes, hair that never moved. He was cardboard, mincing around. He's like the embarassing old Uncle that you see at weddings.

[DaveBond21]

Sir Roger was not responsible for the double-taking pigeon, and he slaps women in TMWTGG.


Watch him kick Loque off the cliff in FYEO - that is real coldblooded murder. The style of the movies in Roger's era where all down to Cubby and the other producers/directors, not the actor!!!

[mrsbonds_ppk]

Firstly, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Roger Moore is not my favorite Bond. In fact, he's my second favorite. Pierce Brosnan is my favorite. I can't sit here and lie and say Sean Connery is my favorite let alone my second favorite, but I do think he potrayed the role the best out of them all. Roger didn't play the role the way Ian Fleming wrote him. Timothy Dalton tried, but was thought of as too serious and wasn't received well. The way Roger did it worked so he must have done something right. Every idea they had for his movies were not all from him, so you can't say that the stupid stuff was his ideas. I most definitly like Roger Moore as an actor and person. He's a very kind and cool man and I love his sense of humor. The poster of this thread said he's ugly and he hates the mole on his face. He's one of the most handsome men I've ever seen, and I like his mole. The man is a very good actor to me. Don't be a idiot man

[00Twelve]

This thread suddenly went from "Does anybody else think RM is the worst Bond" to "Anybody who doesn't think Moore is the personification of god on earth can go to hell"

I was trying to be diplomatic but here goes.. I really do like Roger Moore as an actor, I like his non-Bond stuff. Occassionally, I even want to see one of his Bond films (hey, TSWLM isn't bad and I like LALD). But he just doesn't play the character in the way that Fleming wrote the character. If you don't care about textual accuracy, fine, enjoy the films. But it bothers me, and I think playing the character in a flippant way is an insult to what really are some amazing books. Do I think that it's all Moore's fault? absolutely not.. The producers went with what was popular obviously. I just don't think it's funny to around with the novels I really really love because it was "in fashion" or whatever.. that's a fancy way of saying you're bending to draw in the mighty dollar (yeah, Zorin, Moore chased the buck too.. he's an actor.. he likes to get paid just like everybody else.. ohhh well).

And growing up in the era is no excuse.. I was born in '82 and the first bond film I saw was Octopussy.. After the books, I couldn't go back..

Don't hate me haters.. I'm sure there's a thread somewhere for the lovers of Roger Moore.. this one was actually started to question his effect on the series, so that's what we're doing..

Wow. That is exactly what I wanted to say. Guess I need to adjust my nerd glasses, too.

[PrinceKamalKhan]

Am I the only one that thought Roger Moore played a terrible James Bond? I just couldn't stand him! He's uglier than crap, he's a terrible actor, and he has an annoying voice! Plus the only thing I can look at during his films is that mole on his face! He looked gay when he was shooting his Walther, He wore ugly Jerry Seinfeld Pirate shirts under his jackets, and he made the worst bond film in the franchise: Moonraker.

ROGER MOORE PLAYED THE WORST JAMES BOND!!!

Disagree. My pick for worst Bond has always been George Lazenby but after rewatching some of OHMSS Brosnan may be about to dislodge him.

(has anybody else seen "The Sins of Rachel Cade"? DAMN!)

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I have. Moore also made a similar and very unBondlike film around the same time called The Miracle with Carroll Baker. Have you ever seen that one?

[Safari Suit]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even in the Roger Moore section of the James Bond message board, but when your argument includes the word "gay" credability begins to fly out the window. Just a tip.

[inkling23]

Roger is my least favorite, but I don't think he's as bad as some people make him out to be. I will say, however, he was unfortunate to work with the least impressive Bond director (John Glen).

Roger seemed the least "dangerous" of the the Bonds. Like he'd shoot some bad guys and then later bake dinner for you. Oh wait, he did that in AVTAK (the worst Bond movie overall).

Not that I'm bloodthirsty, but I think any other Bond would've killed the guys driving the jeep (after he escaped) in the Octopussy pre-title sequence.

Edited by inkling23, 16 December 2006 - 11:55 PM.

[bill007]

I was glad to see The Saint get his chance after Sir Sean. I loved LALD and Jane See-Moore. But that Moonraker jumped the shark for me. FYEO won me back. Then, like me, he just got too old.

[moorebond82]

Roger will always be my favorite bond i guess i enjoy the out of this world adventures bond went on in his movies.Plus i think this whole topic is flawed this kid didn't even back up his points. He looked gay and was ugly is not a good enough reason. I'm sorry i'd like some backup to your statements as far as i'm concerned these are just rants.And i can tell you why this kid started this topicbecause no offense to DC but this kid is obviously a CR lover so he's not going to like moore.