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[Publius]

ok sorry guys I just think he wasn't a very good Bond from the way that Fleming created him.

Well, I don't think Fleming's Bond is all that great either.

Look at all of those and then tell me if he's as far from ugly as you can get.

Pictures of the man in his late seventies? C'mon. I don't think there was anything special about how he looked, but he was far from ugly.

And while I don't believe every Bond brought something worthwhile to the role (or that they were necessary for their time, etc.), and generally rank Rog lowest, I have nothing against him. He's a great ambassador for Bond, and probably cares more about the fans than any of the others.

You should feel free to criticize him in a civil and hopefully logical manner, but you should know better than to resort to petty insults. Knock it off and you can get a real discussion going.

[MR. BOND 93]

Guys the reason I think Roger Moore wasn't a very good Bond wasn't just because he was ugly.

[Publius]

Guys the reason I think Roger Moore wasn't a very good Bond wasn't just because he was ugly.

I imagine so, though when you have mentioned other reasons, it's been buried in unnecessary hostility. But if you just lay out your argument, I'm sure you'll get some interesting feedback and debate.

For example, look at the points I made in my first post in this thread. I think what hurt Roger is that he was too often doing it just for fun rather than acting contrary to his nature and playing the part with some danger. None of the Bond actors have been killers, yet that doesn't mean they haven't been able to depict one convincingly. So Moore's shortcoming is not that he didn't have it in him (I think he had it in spades, as evidenced by much of his first two movies), but that he let it be watered down or ignored outright.

[Vanish]

Roger Moore was a terrific Bond. I became a Bond fan when I was a kid, and while growing up during the Dalton-Brosnan chasm in the early '90s, Roger Moore was by far my favorite in the role.

He's not anymore, but I still hold a special place in my heart for the guy and his portrayal of the character. I still prefer him to Brosnan.

As for this thread, the criticisms mounted against Moore are childish and shallow at best. It's perfectly alright for you not to care for a particular actor, but please articulate your sentiments beyond simply "he's ugly!"

[Qwerty]

He looks gay when shooting his Walther?

What exactly did/do Connery, Lazenby, Dalton, Brosnan, and Craig to not look "gay" when shooting at someone?

[jaguar007]

Tough to answer. In many ways Roger Moore is my least favorite James Bond. I don't feel he captured the character of 007. That said, I think some of his performances and movies were better than some of Brosnan, Lazenby or even Connery in his later years.

I also have to admit that I am a huge Roger Moore fan. As I stated, I'm not fond of him as Bond, but The Saint is my all time favorite TV show and Moore is one of those actors I can watch in anything. Even the corniest moments in a Moore Bond movie, I can still enjoy as fluff.

[Jackanaples]

No, Roger Moore played a great Simon Templar. He never James Bond, at least he never played Ian Fleming's character James Bond.

[Pam Bouvier]

Second, Riger Moore is about a far from ugly as you get. Even as he ages, he looks great!

http://www.spotlight...ger_moore_2.jpg

erhttp://www.stars.org.uk/images/roger_moore.jpg

http://www.zdf.de/ZD...,2583427,00.jpg

http://newsimg.bbc.c..._smilepa203.jpg

http://upload.wikime..._Moore_2002.jpg

http://img.timeinc.n...44__moore_l.jpg

http://www.hindu.com...12700150501.jpg

http://johngushue.ty...roger_moore.jpg

http://www.cartoonst...es/ate0016l.jpg

Look at all of those and then tell me if he's as far from ugly as you can get.

[color=#FFCC33]Actually....I think he looks great! The man is in his 70's! He looks wonderful. As for the pictures of his younger days...I think Roger has always been an attractive man.
He isn't my favorite Bond ( major Daltonite, here ) , but I'd NEVER say he was a bad actor or ugly.
Either you must be God's gift...or you are VERY young.
By the way, as you are "Mr. Bond", I assume you are a guy. From a woman's point of view, I think you'll find many of us think Roger was and is a highly attractive man. Hell, if he didn't show his age, at his age, I'd find THAT a bit of a turn off ( you can;t be 25 forever).

[DLibrasnow]

No. In my opinion Roger Moore was the best James Bond.

Pierce Brosnan was the worst.

[Harmsway]

Technically, yes, Moore is the worst Bond, since he's mostly the furthest away from Fleming's creation and completely unbelievable.

However, he does it with such incredible style and charm that, actually, he also ends up being the best Bond.

Change that to second-best Bond and I'll agree with you (I'll always prefer Connery, no matter what).

You bring up an excellent point - it's amazing how fun Roger is to watch, despite the fact that he's utterly unbelievable. He's not a believable womanizer (I find it very hard to believe every woman melting into his arms, perhaps harder to believe than with every other 007), and he's certainly not a believable fighter in any of his fight scenes.

Where he succeeds is the humor he brings to the part, which allows us to look beyond all of that. For him, it's all very tongue-in-cheek - he's self-aware like none of the other Bonds ever really were (except for maybe Brosnan). He's hysterical, from his quizzical looks to the little ways he delivers his quips. This isn't to say that's all he is - other times he's just pain cool ("Hope you enjoyed the show" or "Did I?").

[4 Ur Eyez Only]

No actually Roger was & is still the best.

Here is the rank from best to worst:
1) roger
2) timothy
3) sean
4) george
5) pierce

[Mister Asterix]

[mra]Barry Nelson, David Niven, Peter Sellers. Those are the candidates for

[Mr_Wint]

Technically, yes, Moore is the worst Bond, since he's mostly the furthest away from Fleming's creation and completely unbelievable.

However, he does it with such incredible style and charm that, actually, he also ends up being the best Bond.

Change that to second-best Bond and I'll agree with you (I'll always prefer Connery, no matter what).

You bring up an excellent point - it's amazing how fun Roger is to watch, despite the fact that he's utterly unbelievable. He's not a believable womanizer (I find it very hard to believe every woman melting into his arms, perhaps harder to believe than with every other 007), and he's certainly not a believable fighter in any of his fight scenes.

Not a believable womanizer? I feel that Moore's Bond was more charming than many of the other Bonds. As an example, take the way he seduce Solitaire or Anya (on the boat). Those scenes perfectly demonstrate "the magnetism" Moore's Bond has. I think many women could fall for that.

As for the fighting scenes, I enjoy watching Moore's Bond in action. He doesn

[David_M]

NONE of the Bond actors so far has accurately translated Ian Fleming's creation to the screen...Roger, as has been noted, probably least of all. Every actor so far has been better looking than what Fleming described (Hoagy Carmichael with a scar?! That's attractive?!), not to mention more amusing, more charming, more intelligent and less prone to fits of depression and gloom. The James Bond of the screen has never been the Bond of the books, and in my opinion that's probably why the films have succeeded.

Roger Moore, for my money, was the best-looking, most amusing, most charming of the lot, so yes, Roger Moore was the worst James Bond.

And therefore, my favorite.

And while MR. BOND 93 has every right to his opinion, coming to a Roger board and posting a "Roger sucks" thread makes him a troll. Best to ignore that type.

[jaguar007]

The responses on this thread really show how much Moore was really loved as Bond. He may show up near the bottom of most polls as the fan favorite and quite a few Bond fans don't rate him as the Best Bond (while many do). However while many people will bash and defend lazenby, Dalton, Brosnan and Craig, if one person bashes Moore - ALMOST EVERYONE comes to his defence.

That says quite a bit about him. He is far removed from what many of us consider the ideal James Bond, but unlike some other actors, he has the charisma and charm to pull it off.

[00Twelve]

BOND 93, I think you hit a nerve.

[dee-bee-five]

He looked gay when he was shooting his Walther

And this is a problem, how...? If "looking gay" is still an issue wherever it is you live, I have to enlighten you that some of us don't "look" gay. Hell, I'm usually mistaken for being a breeder. The number of times I've had to let down some poor deluded female...

If I had the time or inclination, I'd like to take apart the rest of your silly post, but life really is too short. Maybe I ought to wait until you're a bit more mature. Although, granted, I may be in my dotage by then... (and I hope I look as good as Moore does now when I get there).

[David_M]

He looked gay when he was shooting his Walther

"It's all in the wrist." - Kamal Khan

[dee-bee-five]

He looked gay when he was shooting his Walther

"It's all in the wrist." - Kamal Khan

Great gag!

[Bon-san]

Well, we haven't had much in the way of anti-Roger sentiment for a good long while. But the past couple of years has seen many of the crew here posting much, much anti-Pierce, anti-Tim and anti-Daniel. So I gather this is just in the way of things.

Fair enough that someone doesn't like Roger. Fair even that someone finds him ugly. Indignation over such seems overreactive. No Bond is loved by all. C'est la vie.

Personally, I dig the Rog-meister. Some years ago I read a post on another forum in which the poster described Roger's Bond as 'pure fromage', and went on to explain that he loved him all the more for it. Really, he's a great big charismatic ham. And eminently watchable as such.

[moorebond82]

Actually he's my favorite bond so i have to disagree with this whole topic.

Edited by moorebond82, 30 October 2006 - 09:00 PM.

[Tarl_Cabot]

Roger Moore's films will be great forever while Brosnan's fall apart with each viewing to the point of being intolerable(TWINE,DAD). Roger aint Sean but he's a damn fine Bond;sure he got to be too old for the role but he had such charm and finesse he made the thought of being a 50ish guy pretty cool (for me as a kid). I hope I'm as cool, handsome,suave and charming when I'm 55-60. Roger was a great 007!

[Johnboy007]

Nope, I think he's the best. Second best at worst.

[Skudor]

There's no such thing as a bad Bond. Only movies that are slightly worse than others.

[jake speed]

I watched Live and Let Die the other week and Roger in his day was a very handsome and good looking chap. Clearly he was a compromise because they couldn't risk another unknown and didn't want a 'Hollywood' star (Guy Hamilton wanted to cast Burt Reynolds). Rog was signed to get Bond through the seventies and that he did. It's hard to think of another actor who could have accomplished this.

[Colossus]

Pierce Brosnan was the worst.

Agreed

[Andy A 007]

I don't hate him as much as you, MR BOND 93, but I do agree that he was by far the worst Bond. I could sonner see him serve someone a cup of tea than kill them. He was quite the pansy!

[Turn]

Well, we haven't had much in the way of anti-Roger sentiment for a good long while. But the past couple of years has seen many of the crew here posting much, much anti-Pierce, anti-Tim and anti-Daniel. So I gather this is just in the way of things.

Fair enough that someone doesn't like Roger. Fair even that someone finds him ugly. Indignation over such seems overreactive. No Bond is loved by all. C'est la vie.

Personally, I dig the Rog-meister. Some years ago I read a post on another forum in which the poster described Roger's Bond as 'pure fromage', and went on to explain that he loved him all the more for it. Really, he's a great big charismatic ham. And eminently watchable as such.

I don't disagree with your sentiments, Bond-san. Rog does seem to be, if you'll excuse the term, sainted these days in the fan community. This thread seems like it came from about 25 years ago or so and it's okay to differ.

The problem with is with the way thread starter Mr. Bond 93 expresses his views. Spewing out things like Moore is ugly, can't act and has an annoying voice, while throwing in Seinfeld references and a reference to something being gay is a very middle school way of expressing himself.

As an aside, I think Lazenby's OHMSS tux is the closest to the Seinfeld puffy shirt.

[mccartney007]

He looked gay when he was shooting his Walther

Where I'm from you "look gay" if you wear a button-up shirt, so....?

[Moore Baby Moore]

Second, Riger Moore is about a far from ugly as you get. Even as he ages, he looks great!

http://www.spotlight...ger_moore_2.jpg

http://www.stars.org...roger_moore.jpg

http://www.zdf.de/ZD...,2583427,00.jpg

http://newsimg.bbc.c..._smilepa203.jpg

http://upload.wikime..._Moore_2002.jpg

http://img.timeinc.n...44__moore_l.jpg

http://www.hindu.com...12700150501.jpg

http://johngushue.ty...roger_moore.jpg

http://www.cartoonst...es/ate0016l.jpg

Look at all of those and then tell me if he's as far from ugly as you can get.

90% of these are pictures of him in old age and middling health. Only three pictures show him in his youth, and one is a cartoon drawing. Using Moore in old age to claim he was ugly in his prime is the height of stupidity.

Consider yourself on my ignore list.