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#91 Colossus

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Posted 23 April 2007 - 11:43 PM

I also would like to say that I think Bond in CR wasn't really smooth and suave but a little too raw and animalistic and I didn't really like that.


Agreed. They made it too street for Bond.

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Posted 24 April 2007 - 05:58 AM

I thought he was very smooth in CR, especially all the scenes in the casino.

Some of my own opinions:

The score for Goldeneye was excellent. It made the movie seem very unique unlike the following three movies. I just wish Serra had scored the other Brosnan movies. It could really have helped elevate them and make them seem less like the generic action films they were.

Roger, contrary to popular opinion, could do a very effective cold blooded Bond. We didnt see near enough of it but there are instances were he could be as chilling as the other Bonds, if not more so because of his flippant attitude to it.

License To Kill is one of the best Bond movies ever. Dalton is brilliant, the villain is great and the stunts are up there with the best of the series.

#93 00Twelve

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Posted 24 April 2007 - 05:19 PM

- Blofeld should never have been made bald, given a cat, or worn those ugly monotone suits.

- The films aren't near as compelling as their counterpart novels, except TSWLM.

- I love Roger Moore, but his Bond is pretty foppish. God bless him.

- Lazenby would have been great in further movies.

- TND should have remained Tomorrow Never Lies. It would have actually made sense, and it sounds infinitely more Flemingesque.

I need to amend my old list:

- Diamonds Are Forever is a damned good Bond novel

- Many of the films went overboard on Bond's "suave" level

- Dalton would make a perfect Miles Messervy

- Connery looked better physically in Thunderball than in the previous three films

#94 JLaidlaw

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Posted 25 April 2007 - 10:03 AM

Thunderball is the most boring Bond Film

All Six actors are equally good as James Bond

Ian Fleming and Cubby Broccolli have never turned in their graves

EDIT: I posted before looking, but just looking back on this topic now, I was delighted to find Mister Asterix had posted exactly the same as that last, whereas two or three have posted the first two.

Edited by JLaidlaw, 25 April 2007 - 10:08 AM.


#95 DaveBond21

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 06:00 AM

Here is another from me:-

YOLT is not that good.

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 08:22 AM

Brit Eklund as Mary Goodnight is better than Lois Maxwell as Moneypenny.
The theme tune to TMWTGG is better than the film.
Connery's Bond in NSNA would have kicked Connery's Bond's [censored] in Thunderball.

#97 ChronoBreak

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 08:56 AM

Here goes...

1) The Man with the Golden Gun is Roger Moore's best Bond film.

2) Eric Serra's Goldeneye score is fantastic and inventive.

3) License to Kill better than The Living Daylights.

4) Sheryl Crow's Tomorrow Never Dies theme is terrific.

5) Goldfinger is the weakest Bond film of the '60s era.

#98 Zorin Industries

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 10:04 AM

GOLDENEYE is a terrible Bond film. Six years and that's all it was....a lazy Roger Moore offcut of a Bond film.

Pierce Brosnan cannot act.

Madonna's DIE ANOTHER DAY theme is perfect for the film.

Chris Cornell's YOU KNOW MY NAME is perfect for the film.

A VIEW TO A KILL is the most contemporary, crisp and well paced of many a Bond film.

Sean Connery is allegedly a *****r!

Sophie Marceau cannot act.

TOMORROW NEVER DIES is Brosnan's best Bond film and the best Bond film since A VIEW TO A KILL.

Daniel Craig's BOND will be the first 007 to sleep with a man to gain information.

#99 ACE

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 10:10 AM

GOLDENEYE is a terrible Bond film. Six years and that's all it was....a lazy Roger Moore offcut of a Bond film.

Pierce Brosnan cannot act.

Madonna's DIE ANOTHER DAY theme is perfect for the film.

Chris Cornell's YOU KNOW MY NAME is perfect for the film.

A VIEW TO A KILL is the most contemporary, crisp and well paced of many a Bond film.

Sean Connery is allegedly a *****r!

Sophie Marceau cannot act.

TOMORROW NEVER DIES is Brosnan's best Bond film and the best Bond film since A VIEW TO A KILL.

Daniel Craig's BOND will be the first 007 to sleep with a man to gain information.


Burn Zorin Industries, you heretic, BURN!

Erm, actually I agree with the points below:

Madonna's DIE ANOTHER DAY theme is perfect for the film.

Chris Cornell's YOU KNOW MY NAME is perfect for the film.

TOMORROW NEVER DIES is Brosnan's best Bond film...


Thunderball is the most boring Bond Film

All Six actors are equally good as James Bond


Yup, I call it "Thunderbore"

YOLT is not that good.

Well, Connery is crap. SO bored. Easily the worst Bond performance of any actor.


2) Eric Serra's Goldeneye score is fantastic and inventive.

4) Sheryl Crow's Tomorrow Never Dies theme is terrific.



#100 Zorin Industries

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 10:14 AM

GOLDENEYE is a terrible Bond film. Six years and that's all it was....a lazy Roger Moore offcut of a Bond film.

Pierce Brosnan cannot act.

Madonna's DIE ANOTHER DAY theme is perfect for the film.

Chris Cornell's YOU KNOW MY NAME is perfect for the film.

A VIEW TO A KILL is the most contemporary, crisp and well paced of many a Bond film.

Sean Connery is allegedly a *****r!

Sophie Marceau cannot act.

TOMORROW NEVER DIES is Brosnan's best Bond film and the best Bond film since A VIEW TO A KILL.

Daniel Craig's BOND will be the first 007 to sleep with a man to gain information.


Burn Zorin Industries, you heretic, BURN!


The flames are lapping at my feet as we speak. Though I do appear to be stuck in a San Fran elevator wearing only a white nightie and a stuntman's blonde wig...

#101 ACE

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 10:16 AM



Burn Zorin Industries, you heretic, BURN!


The flames are lapping at my feet as we speak. Though I do appear to be stuck in a San Fran elevator wearing only a white nightie and a stuntman's blonde wig...

LOL. We gonna git the Barnd po-lees on yo [censored]

#102 Pete

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 10:35 AM

A Citroen 2CV IS a better and faster car than any Aston Martin.
Roger Moore dyed his hair From black to brown to distance himself from Sean Connery.
Sean Connery's hairpiece is in fact a cat called Bob.

#103 Joyce Carrington

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 11:59 AM

I really, really like Sheryl Crow's Tomorrow Never Dies. I like k.d. lang's Surrender too, but I just don't see what's wrong with Crow's song.

Christmas Jones doesn't bother me. Perhaps... I even like her.

#104 ACE

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 12:01 PM

I really, really like Sheryl Crow's Tomorrow Never Dies. I like k.d. lang's Surrender too, but I just don't see what's wrong with Crow's song.

Christmas Jones doesn't bother me. Perhaps... I even like her.


That's Dr Christmas Jones to you!
She's a nuclear physicist, don't you know.
Denise is fine but blown off the screen by Sophie WHO CAN ACT!

#105 Zorin Industries

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 12:24 PM

I really, really like Sheryl Crow's Tomorrow Never Dies. I like k.d. lang's Surrender too, but I just don't see what's wrong with Crow's song.

Christmas Jones doesn't bother me. Perhaps... I even like her.


That's Dr Christmas Jones to you!
She's a nuclear physicist, don't you know.
Denise is fine but blown off the screen by Sophie WHO CAN ACT!


CAN'T!

#106 ACE

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 12:25 PM

CAN!

(with knobs on!)

#107 Zorin Industries

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 12:59 PM

CAN!

(with knobs on!)


Don't try and get around me just because your argument has a knob on it...

Now, come on, don't be a CAN man, be a CAN'T!

Edited by Zorin Industries, 04 December 2007 - 12:59 PM.


#108 ACE

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 01:05 PM

Hey, are you a Mexican or a Mexican't?

See you next Tuesday.

OK, let's get back to unorthodox stuff.

Roger Moore as Bond in MWGG was better than Sean Connery as Bond in YOLT. And Thunderbore.
There. I've said it.

#109 Judo chop

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 02:51 PM

I forgot all about this wonderful thread!

John Glen hired as director is the single worst thing to happen in the Bond series.

At the time,

#110 Zorin Industries

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 03:18 PM

Goldfinger is the 2nd most visually depressing Bond film in the series. It loses to DAF.


Er - Ken Adam anyone? How can GOLDFINGER be the second most visually depressing Bond film...?!! Not that this thread is for arguing. We should just state our 007 gripes and move on. The fun is reading other peoples.

Eg. all the 40th anniversary nods in DIE ANOTHER DAY. It made huge swathes of the film feel like a late 1970's holiday special - you know, the sort that get CHEWBACCA and the cast of STAR WARS singing on TV...

#111 OmarB

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 03:33 PM

Here's mine.

I think most the movies suck in comparison to the books. I think that the old Fleming (and maybe some of the continuation books) be adapted mini-series style so we get all the details from the books in. I swear it's a lost art, I don't think there's any medium better for adapting novels than the miniseries.

#112 Judo chop

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 03:33 PM

Goldfinger is the 2nd most visually depressing Bond film in the series. It loses to DAF.


Er - Ken Adam anyone? How can GOLDFINGER be the second most visually depressing Bond film...?!! Not that this thread is for arguing. We should just state our 007 gripes and move on. The fun is reading other peoples.

Er

#113 00Twelve

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 03:50 PM

Blofeld should never have been made bald, or worn those ugly khaki suits.

The films aren't near as compelling as their counterpart novels, except TSWLM.

Moore's Bond is a fop. God bless him.

Lazenby would have been great.

TND should have remained Tomorrow Never Lies. It would have actually made sense, and it sounds infinitely more Flemingesque.



(I admit, this is my second go)

- Robert Brown never stopped playing Admiral Hargreaves.
- LTK was one of the most Flemingesque Bond films, minus the fake locale.
- A young, fit Laz would have been much better in DAF than Sean.
- Connery wasn't slacking in his Bond portrayal yet in TB.
- The cat served no purpose in making Blofeld more interesting.

I don't know what I was thinking in writing these. Please forgive and disregard. :D

As for the rest, they still stand as my most "unorthodox" opinions, along with a few more...

- I disagree with the conversation above; I find Goldeneye infinitely more capable of holding my attention than TND or any other Broz Bond film.
- LTK is NOT "too serious." Some would like to think so, but it's just as campy as TLD, and thus is more imbalanced.

:P

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 04:11 PM

I liked the score for Goldeneye.

I loved License To Kill.

I found You Only Live Twice to be kind of boring.

Live And Let Die is one of Roger Moore's better movies.

I like that they only used the Bond theme at the very end of Casino Royale.

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 07:05 PM

Moonraker is absolutely one of my favorite Bond movies.

I find parts of FRWL to be very slow moving.

I'm not a huge fan of OHMSS, or of George in the roll. He's fine, just always at the bottom of my list.

For what they were, at times I like the lightheartedness in the Moore films - but ONLY for Moore.

#116 Fiona Volpe lover

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 08:59 PM

Here's some of mine-

Goldfinger isn't that great,in fact it's the second weakest 60s film

Neither is The Spy Who Loved Me,a mediocre remake of You Only Live Twice

You Only Live Twice is the best Bond film

Die Another Day is pretty good,certainly Pierce Brosnan's best

There are actually not too many underwater scenes in Thunderball and the climactic undersea battle is the best Bond battle ever

George Lazenby was really good as Bond in On Her Majesty's Secret Service

Timothy Dalton was a poor James Bond

Roger Moore's best Bond performance was in The Man With The Golden Gun

Much of the silly humour in the Moore films works for the films,especially referring to Sherif J.W.Pepper

They should bring back John Cleese

Mr Wint and Mr Kidd and Nick Nack are great henchman

Eric Serra's Goldeneye score would be great if it was a bit louder

Moonraker is the best theme song

The invisable Aston Martin is one of Bond's greatest cars

Edited by Fiona Volpe lover, 04 December 2007 - 09:11 PM.


#117 DaveBond21

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 10:31 PM

George Lazenby is wooden in some of his scenes and tries too hard to imitate Connery.



Cool thread, I love these different opinions we all have.

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 12:06 AM

Goldeneye is far more bogged down with emotion than The World Is Not Enough. TWINE gets it right, GE gets melodramatic.

#119 rebeck

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 12:32 AM

Daniel Craig in Casino Royale is the single greatest portrayal of James Bond in any single Bond film.


Is that really unorthodox? :D



Not at all. But this is:

Daniel Craig is one of the biggest mistakes ever made in the history of the series. He is not good-looking enough (a perfectly valid criticism), he is too old (or looks much too old already), he is thuggish and low-class, he has not the wit, subtlety, charm or sophistication that you expect from Bond, his face has two expressions (I'm tough and I'm angry), he doesn't radiate intelligence, can be downright wooden and thick sometimes and almost always seems miserable, and in real life he's an arrogant, standoffish, snobbish actor who really doesn't want to be doing a popcorn action series, but will take the money and fame on his way to "real" movies.

In short, he is outrageously overrated.


Goldeneye is far more bogged down with emotion than The World Is Not Enough. TWINE gets it right, GE gets melodramatic.


Amen, brother. I could not agree more.

Oh yeah, and George Martin's soundtrack for Live And Let Die is the best, coolest, most exhilarating Bond score ever.

Edited by rebeck, 05 December 2007 - 12:43 AM.


#120 Colossus

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 12:37 AM

Couple of changes...

-Dr. No is my 2nd favorite Bond. I see it in pretty mediocre positions on fav lists and it's the least voted official Connery Bond in the poll. :P


Dr. No IS my #1 favorite.

-The Man with the Golden Gun is my FAVORITE Moore Bond. I'm aghast at how low of an opinion it has around here, i recall on an imdb poll it was the 2nd or 3rd most voted thankfully. :D


Moonraker is now my favorite Moore. :D

-Brosnan's 3 last Bonds are my least favorites (along with DAF) of the whole series, kind screwed up how his best was a Dalton movie.


I like Brozza's more than many of the 80s Bonds.

Edited by Colossus, 05 December 2007 - 12:40 AM.