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[DamnCoffee]

I'm actually really excited about this I just cannot wait to hear the scores

Btw: What happened to "License 2 Kills"?

[MattofSteel]

Based on what we've seen of the PTS in the trailers, I'm guessing it's not a heavily orchestrated piece. Probably made sense to cut.

Shame, though. Cleverest track title, perhaps ever.

[Rich Douglas]

It would definately be cool to get a second disc. But with orchestra re-use fees as high as they are I seriously doubt this will happen. Usually companies like Sony Classical and Varese Sarabande pay for chunks of film score in 15 minute increments to release... this amount isn't exactly cheap if memory serves so I'm thinking we probably won't see a legal 2 disc release (a bootleg with the complete score will most likely surface eventually). But who knows.

Rich

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

I guess the IMDB reviewer was right. He said that the PTS has no music so That may explain the lost of L2Ks. As for why YKMN is not on the soundtrack, it could be many factors involved. Perhaps that the song is already all over the net and that all us probably will be buying the soundtrack to Casino Royale anyway I guess they will be releaseing it as a seperate single or on the next Cornell album. Perhaps it's a collective punishment of us all form Sony for the leaking of the song. You can pretty much get the song for free so why should they put it as a track on a CD that we will buy reguardless when they can put it on another album or single and try to recoup some profits lost by this leaking. I can live with that.

[littlenellie]

re use fees dont apply in the Uk,its only american recordings which attract this money.we should get a lot more from uk recordings.the sony store has a listing which has 25 tracks i think,but no song.

[gkgyver]

Maybe the song doesn't play over the title sequence.

[JimmyBond]

Maybe the song doesn't play over the title sequence.

If that was true, why would they have it on the titles at the screenings only to remove it?

[Rich Douglas]

Now that is a valid point indeed. Has it really been mentioned anywhere that the song will in fact be playing over the main titles? When arnold said OHMSS was going to be his template for this score, maybe there's more to it than we thought and we're actually going to be treated to a nifty instrumental title cue.

Rich

[deth]

Now that is a valid point indeed. Has it really been mentioned anywhere that the song will in fact be playing over the main titles? When arnold said OHMSS was going to be his template for this score, maybe there's more to it than we thought and we're actually going to be treated to a nifty instrumental title cue.

Rich

while I'm unfamiliar with the script, just judging by the intro to YKMN, I'd say that kind of sounds like a Title sequence type intro.....

[JimmyBond]

Now that is a valid point indeed. Has it really been mentioned anywhere that the song will in fact be playing over the main titles? When arnold said OHMSS was going to be his template for this score, maybe there's more to it than we thought and we're actually going to be treated to a nifty instrumental title cue.

Rich

I would think that the two reviews we've gotten from pre-screenings would have mentioned the song wasnt played over the titles. I don't see where they would put YKMN if not on the titles, the credits are reserved for the James Bond theme.

[stromberg]

Has it really been mentioned anywhere that the song will in fact be playing over the main titles?

[box]CULVER CITY, CA - July 26, 2006 - It was announced today by producers Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc. and Sony Pictures Entertainment, that Chris Cornell, the singer/songwriter behind Soundgarden, Audioslave and Temple of the Dog, has written, in collaboration with Bond composer David Arnold, and will perform the main title song entitled

[Harmsway]

The advance reviews have all put "You Know My Name" over the main titles.

[gkgyver]

If that was true, why would they have it on the titles at the screenings only to remove it?

That's why you do screenings, to see if it works, don't you?
Out of all the things you can change in a movie, music is the most simple one. Of course that is based on the presumption that Arnold actually has written a substitute for it.

[Harmsway]

Considering the "You Know My Name" music video has been shooting over the past few days, I don't think the song has been dropped.

And since test reviews from two separate screenings stated the song was featured as the main titles, I have no reason to believe anything has changed since then.

I do find the omission from the track list very curious, though. It's possible a "Music From and Inspired By" CD is in order.

[Loomis]

I think it's inconceivable that "You Know My Name" won't be on the soundtrack album, especially as part of a ploy to boost single sales. I mean, who buys singles these days, anyway? They're loss leaders for albums, and to omit the new James Bond theme song from the new James Bond soundtrack album would be commercial lunacy. They'd have a much harder time selling it outside Bond fandom, and even a fan such as myself would think twice before buying an album that was just David Arnold (sorry, Arnold fans ).

My guess is that the tracklisting has yet to be finalised. 90%-complete-but-nonetheless-still-incomplete tracklistings of upcoming albums appear on the net all the time. Perhaps there's a debate going on as to whether to have YKMN as the first track or the last.

I do find the omission from the track list very curious, though. It's possible a "Music From and Inspired By" CD is in order.

Or perhaps a new "greatest hits" CD featuring all the Bond songs up to and including YKMN. That would make more commercial sense than some crappy "inspired by the motion picture" effort, and would almost certainly be a much better album too, albeit 99% money for old rope.

[Harmsway]

My guess is that the tracklisting has yet to be finalised. 90%-complete-but-nonetheless-still-incomplete tracklistings of upcoming albums appear on the net all the time. Perhaps there's a debate going on as to whether to have YKMN as the first track or the last.

That's the most reasonable suggestion, I think.

[Mister Asterix]

[mra]Now on CBn

[Skudor]

From the Sony music store website:

Just read the article. Added spoiler tags.

Spoiler

1. African Rundown
2. Nothing Sinister
3. Unauthorised Access
4. Blunt Instrument
5. CCTV
6. Solange
7. Trip Aces
8. Miami International
9. I'm The Money
10. Aston Montenegro
11. Dinner Jackets
12. The Tell
13. Stairwell Fight
14. Vesper
15. Bond Loses It All
16. Dirty Martini
17. Bond Wins It All
18. The End of an Aston Martin
19. The Bad Die Young
20. City of Lovers
21. The Switch
22. Fall of a House in Venice
23. Death of Vesper
24. The Bitch is Dead
25. The Name's Bond... James Bond

[Bond#9-GeorgeKemp]

Well, We can always dream, can't we? Here's my idea of a "Complete" Casino Royale. I made up the track names from my memories fo the book and the supposed official tracklist. Someone who has read the script can think of better names.


Spoilers in The Tracklist:




Hope you all like it!

Really amazing work valentin - well done!

From the Sony music store website:

Just read the article. Added spoiler tags.

Spoiler

1. African Rundown
2. Nothing Sinister
3. Unauthorised Access
4. Blunt Instrument
5. CCTV
6. Solange
7. Trip Aces
8. Miami International
9. I'm The Money
10. Aston Montenegro
11. Dinner Jackets
12. The Tell
13. Stairwell Fight
14. Vesper
15. Bond Loses It All
16. Dirty Martini
17. Bond Wins It All
18. The End of an Aston Martin
19. The Bad Die Young
20. City of Lovers
21. The Switch
22. Fall of a House in Venice
23. Death of Vesper
24. The Bitch is Dead
25. The Name's Bond... James Bond

Pretty cool names - still no YKMN though - any ideas?

[Skudor]

Who knows what they are thinking. If the 25 tracks are right it does sound likely that they've left YKMN off the soundtrack. Personally I'd rather have it on a single and a full soundtrack CD.

[gkgyver]

Exactly. I'd rather have 4 minutes more score than the song.
Maybe they just perfected the transformation of the title songs from integral part of the score to marketing instrument.
Maybe they didn't put it on there in order to not lose any potential buyers of the single. Seems like EoN really wants to see that sucker climbing up the charts.

[littlenellie]

david arnold never said OHMSS was to be the template for this score.he simply said that like ohmss, CR would not be relying on the bond theme,and in its use , or lack of it, CR's closest musical cousin was OHMSS.This doesnt mean CR is based on, or will sound like, or be influenced by OHMSS.Still dont get why folks keep saying anything different.Arnold even cleared this up on his website some time ago.Still,25 tracks is pretty cool.Hope the JB theme sounds like it means business
and spoilers inthe titles ?? its like calling a track ';Romeo and juliet die', I mean who doesnt know that this happens.In the forums,people are discussing Vespers demise quite openly, and it was in the book, and the book is nearly 50 years old.

[Vauxhall]

Just in case anyone missed it earlier, I thought that I'd point out that the (possibly) "complete" 25 track listing can be found in this thread here.

[Double-0-Seven]

Some very interesting titles in that tracklist. Makes me even more interested in hearing the score.

[Double-Oh Agent]

It's great that it appears that we will be getting 25 songs for the soundtrack. (Don't know why they didn't do something like this for Die Another Day.) But I still can't believe that the soundtrack doesn't include You Know My Name. How can a Bond soundtrack not have the main theme? To go through with this is sheer idiocy/lunacy and I, for one, would not be likely to buy an "inspired by the film" CD with YKMN on it--perhaps even a YKMN single. I've got other things to occupy my money like all the 007 themed books coming out this fall.

[TonicBH]

I'm surprised people are complaining about the lack of the song. I mean, remember, Sony does music a bit differently than... whoever the heck they were with prior to Sony buying MGM. Score albums and "Songs inspired by the film" albums are commonplace with Sony-based films.

All I personally hope for is that Arnold went back to the style of TND and not continued forward with the brash-boom-bang style of DAD. While good, it was too distracting.

[stromberg]

and spoilers inthe titles ?? its like calling a track ';Romeo and juliet die', I mean who doesnt know that this happens.In the forums,people are discussing Vespers demise quite openly, and it was in the book, and the book is nearly 50 years old.

Well, there are people (even on here) who haven't read the book and don't know how about the end. Also, with the public's growing interest in the movie, the mainpage is frequented by a lot of casual Bond fans who are searching just for a bit ofinformation.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

Perhaps You know my name will be on the soundtrack but as an unlisted bonus track?

[DamnCoffee]

and spoilers inthe titles ?? its like calling a track ';Romeo and juliet die', I mean who doesnt know that this happens.In the forums,people are discussing Vespers demise quite openly, and it was in the book, and the book is nearly 50 years old.

Agreed


I'd rather base the tracks on chapters from the novel eg: instead of

Spoiler

The Death of Vesper

i'd rather call the track "Sleep well my darling" which, IMO, is better than spoiling the whole bloody movie

[Harmsway]

I'd rather base the tracks on chapters from the novel eg: instead of

Spoiler

The Death of Vesper

i'd rather call the track "Sleep well my darling" which, IMO, is better than spoiling the whole bloody movie

I would have liked some track titles from the book, but as far as "Sleep Well, My Darling" goes, it doesn't fit with the film.