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[DaveBond21]

Does anyone else think that Dalton's Bond, although well-known for being gritty and more realistic, actually smiles the most out of any Bonds, simply from his performance in TLD (and the PTS of LTK)?

Watch TLD again, and you see he beams his away round the fairground in Vienna, and also many other scenes with Kara. He is also very smiley at the start of LTK, especially at the wedding.


I know Roger Moore was the most light-hearted Bond but I don't think he smiles all that much, it is more of a smirk or a raised eyebrow.

Brosnan - was certainly having a good time driving in Cuba in GE, so he has his smiley moments too.

What do you think??

[Pam Bouvier]

I'm not sure if he smiles the most, or if his smile is the most memorable. That smile is amazing...as is the rare but distictive chuckle (remember LTK on the boat with Pam). Just thinking about the smile melts me. Dalton was very good at showing the dar side of Bond, but at the same time, the lighter, very human moments, were memorable, as well.

[DaveBond21]

Pam, is Timothy Dalton your ultimate man??

I know you are a big fan of his. I think he does the serious very well, but his smile was certainly the widest of all the Bond actors.

[jaguar007]

Dalton is my second favorite Bond after Connery, but I always thought his smile looked kinda dorky.

[Santa]

He was smiley. Really he was far too nice to ever be James Bond.

[DaveBond21]

Yeah, I think he is a nice guy in real life.

[avl]

You know I'd never thought, but yes, he was smiley wasn't he. I think thats becuase he played it as a Romantic lead, certainly with Kara.

[Tarl_Cabot]

He was smiley. Really he was far too nice to ever be James Bond.

Why? Connery is known for being a grouch but does that mean every Bond star has to be unpleasant or 'edgy'? Dalton was a great Bond-style villian in Rocketeer...his dark side is very convincing to me.

[Santa]

He was smiley. Really he was far too nice to ever be James Bond.

Why? Connery is known for being a grouch but does that mean every Bond star has to be unpleasant or 'edgy'? Dalton was a great Bond-style villian in Rocketeer...his dark side is very convincing to me.

I didn't mean he had to be unpleasant, I've just never been convinced by his 'dark side', far from it. To me he always seemed avuncular, particularly with Kara, and a little bewildered as to why people around him were being so mean. I have quite a good eye for spotting the bad boys and TD just isn't one. TD is a true gentleman, lovely man. Not saying he acted badly, I could never see why people called him cold and dark is all. No biggie.

[Tarl_Cabot]

He was smiley. Really he was far too nice to ever be James Bond.

Why? Connery is known for being a grouch but does that mean every Bond star has to be unpleasant or 'edgy'? Dalton was a great Bond-style villian in Rocketeer...his dark side is very convincing to me.

I didn't mean he had to be unpleasant, I've just never been convinced by his 'dark side', far from it. To me he always seemed avuncular, particularly with Kara, and a little bewildered as to why people around him were being so mean. I have quite a good eye for spotting the bad boys and TD just isn't one. TD is a true gentleman, lovely man. Not saying he acted badly, I could never see why people called him cold and dark is all. No biggie.

My take on Tim was he acted like a Pro on and off camera; I don't see him as a 'Bad boy' or especially cold but rather professional about the way he goes about his mission-he does come across as much more realistic than Moore. As Bond he could be pleasant or rough whenever neccessary . The scenes with Puskin, Lupe, Pam (in the hotel) are great because they show his all business, 'I'm-in charge, tell me what I want to know or I will kill-you moments. They work. I believe he is deadly serious and it doesn't come across as forced. His face has a certain menace to it too. Anyway, Bond isn't the Terminator. He has to have some charm and social graces or he's just another thug.

[Mister Asterix]

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[Scottlee]

I'd never considered his escessive smiling.

I guess he did smile a lot now that I think about it. He probably saw it as a necessary balance to all his serious moments (of which there were countless).

[Santa]

Dalton's smiles really gave his dark side a great contrast.

I know I'm swimming against the tide, and that's OK , but honestly, I've always been genuinely baffled by the widespread belief in TD's dark side. Seriously, it has always completely passed me by. I find him about as dark as Mary Poppins. I appreciate his Bond for various fine qualities but I'll never, ever get that bit. Whoosh, right over my head. Sorry everyone.

[Tarl_Cabot]

Dalton's smiles really gave his dark side a great contrast.

I know I'm swimming against the tide, and that's OK , but honestly, I've always been genuinely baffled by the widespread belief in TD's dark side. Seriously, it has always completely passed me by. I find him about as dark as Mary Poppins. I appreciate his Bond for various fine qualities but I'll never, ever get that bit. Whoosh, right over my head. Sorry everyone.

Sieze her!

[Pam Bouvier]

Pam, is Timothy Dalton your ultimate man??

I know you are a big fan of his. I think he does the serious very well, but his smile was certainly the widest of all the Bond actors.

You mean you can tell??
Oh, yeah, very much my ulTIMate man . But, don;t tell my husband...he thinks he has that distiction

[Publius]

Dalton's smiles really gave his dark side a great contrast.

I know I'm swimming against the tide, and that's OK , but honestly, I've always been genuinely baffled by the widespread belief in TD's dark side. Seriously, it has always completely passed me by. I find him about as dark as Mary Poppins. I appreciate his Bond for various fine qualities but I'll never, ever get that bit. Whoosh, right over my head. Sorry everyone.

Even Roger Moore could be quite dark (Golden Gun), he just didn't seem to want to, very much unlike Dalton, who seemed to have insisted on it. I didn't buy Tim as a "bad boy" (good thing, because I find most of those types are trying too hard and forcing it, damned posers), but I did buy him as an angry, vengeful, assassin-when-need-be. That, combined with his often brooding appearance and the powerful depth of his eyes, give a strongly dark vibe.

Then again, I'm basing that mostly on LTK, which I think is unquestionably the rawest, most intensely human of all the Bonds. In TLD, he was more of the gentleman he is in real life, but even there he had his darker moments; case in point, the infamous "interrogation" scene, from pistol whipping Pushkin in the stomach, to stripping his girlfriend's clothes off, to wailing on the Soviet bodyguard's face. He was believably frightening and dangerous. He could flip out. And while remaining in control of himself and the situation, no less.

Basically, Dalton had "it" (from the badass standpoint). If I was in a fist-fight, I'd be most afraid of Laz (in his prime) or Craig kicking my butt. If I was at a party, I'd be most "afraid" of Rog or Pierce stealing my thunder or telling better jokes than me. But if I had just pissed him off and was facing him face on, "mano a mano", only Dalton would, for lack of a better phrase, quite literally scare the living out of me.

Well, maybe the Connery of Dr. No, too.

Edited by Publius, 16 September 2006 - 04:35 AM.

[DaveBond21]

Yes, it seems others agree he was quite smiley, as well as being one of the darker Bonds.

[Cody]

Does anyone else think that Dalton's Bond, although well-known for being gritty and more realistic, actually smiles the most out of any Bonds, simply from his performance in TLD (and the PTS of LTK)?

Watch TLD again, and you see he beams his away round the fairground in Vienna, and also many other scenes with Kara. He is also very smiley at the start of LTK, especially at the wedding.

I've noticed this myself. He sure was having fun on that rollercoaster.

[Mr Woodpigeon]

He was I guess. Don't think he smiled more so then some of the others, but it was the type of smile that lit up his whole face, which is nice to see.

[DaveBond21]

He was also having a really good laugh when he was throwing the money around the plane, after the Wavecrest scene, in LTK, plus when he kisses Pam at the end.

[sharpshooter]

I thought Craig smiled a fair bit in CR.

[moorebond82]

The whole fairgrounds-carnival scene in TLD sums up dalton for me and thats a good thing,that just happens to be the scenes where i think he smiles the most. I also love where he tells kara no to go back to get the cello and next we see hes parked outside waiting.

[DaveBond21]

He also beams broadly as he greets Della outside the church at the end of the PTS, in Licence to Kill.

[Bondian]

I'm not sure if he was the Bond who smiled the most. I think that distinction belongs to Moore. But I'd say that Craig is the most polite. He must have said "thank you" at least 20 times thought Casino Royale.

[DaveBond21]

Hmmm...yes, Craig was very polite at the hotel in Montenegro.

[DaveBond21]

Anyone else agree?

[00Twelve]

I don't know if I would have ever noticed him as being "smiley," but now that the attention is drawn to that, I think it's a big part of what made him seem like more of a real human being. The same goes for the current Bond. I'm rather glad that Tim got to have moments as Bond where he could laugh and be happy like a normal person. I like it when Bond is played like a realistic, normal person. Not overly suave or smooth. Laugh it up, Tim.

[mrsbonds_ppk]

Timothy was smiley. Whih is a good thing. I think he has a terrific smile it's a really nice part to his personaliy. I not sure if he smiled more than any other Bond but his smile was certainly bright.

[RazorBlade]

And they said he was too serious.

[David_M]

I think it's entirely possible Dalton smiled more than the other Bonds, yes, but that's just one of the many ways the actors defy the labels people so often give them.

Dalton was "the darkest" but smiled the most.

Moore was "the lightest" but committed some of the cruelest acts in the series (kicking Locque's car, shooting an unarmed Stromberg 4 times...twice in the crotch!...and so on).

Connery's Bond was "the toughest" and yet he's the only Bond to actually SING (twice!) and dance on screen.

I think all the Bonds are more rounded and multi-faceted than they're given credit for, including Dalton.