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clueless waster who did nothing at "uni" but smoke weed

Isn't that what university is for?

One thing I've noticed, though, is that even people who are "successful" in film don't always stay in the industry, so getting in, hard as I'm sure it usually is, may be a piece of cake compared to staying in. I've known people who became disillusioned and gave up even after making it, so for real, long-term "success" perhaps the key is sticking with things with unwavering determination, not "Which course should I do?".

Quite right. I've been trying to get out of it for years as I'm a lazy hippy and hate playing the corporate game, but it keeps sucking me back in - there's plenty of work and it's well-paid, but one day I'll escape. Soon. Then I can spend all day, every day on the beach with my dog and swimming.

*For which read "his or her" - I just find writing "his or her" tediously PC, and I refuse to use such poor English as "their chosen path".

Quite right too. Please let's throw all political correctness out of the window, I hate it.

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All those directors you mention are not famous because they followed the rules, but because they learnt what they were, and broke them. How many times did Lucas get Star Wars refused by majors studios ? It's a laugh.

That was my point. You might enjoy learning the course, just forget theory and act as you wish. If not, there would be no star wars ("impossible, no one is interested in sf space opera anymore" or Titanic ("it will sink everyone knows the end"). Whatever the quality of these films, they were major successes, by people who went against all the rules and the grain.

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Yes I know that they used to do that but due to the rise of the Internet I know alot of studios don

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The real, movie directors, who will be remembered for centuries, never got into any film course at all ! Just trow all you learn away

Not true at all, in any way.

do the names George Lucas, Steven Speilberg ring a bell?

Or Michael Mann (the London Film School). There are zillions of examples of people who have made it in the film business who've had film-related higher education, just as there are zillions of examples of people who have made it in the film business who've not had film-related higher education. I'm not in "the biz" myself, but I know quite a few people who are or who have been, in various roles, and they got in in a variety of ways. Some did courses, some didn't. Others simply had the right surname. So you can't say "Don't bother with film school", or assume that anyone who did a course must simply be a clueless waster who did nothing at "uni" but smoke weed, just as you can't say "You absolutely must get a formal education in the subject" - the truth is that there are numerous ways in, and everyone must follow his* particular path.

Oh, I think you're absolutely right in saying this. The point I made in my earlier post about the show I work on is true; but that's no reason to put off anyone from attending film school or whatever because you can be damned if you do and damned if you don't. It's the same argument about whether an actor should go to drama school or not. We've just cast an actor who has no formal training whatsoever; she beat a lot of trained actors to the role because her audition was so instinctive and natural. That might make depressing reading for any actor who's just enroled into drama school, but it's not a reason not to enrol.As William Goldman famously said, no-one knows anything in this industry.