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[Andrew]

Now on the CBn main page...

Casino Royale Test Screening Review

_{Plot spoilers}

http://www.aintitcoo...ay.cgi?id=24436

Fairly positive! It seems that the Cornell song didn't impress (that's one of the things I'm worried about). I'd love to see the film with the temp score, just out of curiousty of which cues they used and where.

Edited by Qwerty, 09 September 2006 - 10:26 PM.

[dinovelvet]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30007

Fairly positive!

Fairly positive? It's a bloody rave review! The first of many, no doubt

(Although why does the guy keep going on about Tarantino in every paragraph?)

Edit - So, two and a half hours, eh? I bet the final cut of the movie won't be that long. From what this guy says, it sounds like several of the Bond-Vesper romantic scenes will be hitting the cutting room floor.

[bernsmartin007]

Jeez what a moaner, Bond shouldn't be seen eating? Well he does in the books so he should on screen, simple as that. He especially likes toast with caviar etc in the books too.

[Andrew]

Edit - So, two and a half hours, eh? I bet the final cut of the movie won't be that long. From what this guy says, it sounds like several of the Bond-Vesper romantic scenes will be hitting the cutting room floor.

I'm really hoping for an extended cut DVD, although knowing EON that won't happen.

[zencat]

Whoa.

Not going to read the whole thing. I don't want my own opinions shaped. His opening was all I needed.

If a first cut works THIS well...fantastic.

[dinovelvet]

Edit - So, two and a half hours, eh? I bet the final cut of the movie won't be that long. From what this guy says, it sounds like several of the Bond-Vesper romantic scenes will be hitting the cutting room floor.

I'm really hoping for an extended cut DVD, although knowing EON that won't happen.

Yeah that would be quite something. It may just be deleted scenes on the DVD though, which would be fine by me. I mean its entirely possible that some scenes really do drag on and the film is better without them, but we'll all want to see them in some form anyway.
Of course Sony are known to do the 'double dip' when it comes to DVDs - i.e. release a standard edition DVD six months after the theatrical release, and then put out an Uber Special Edition with extra scenes just prior to release of the sequel - in this case November 2008. But, we are speculating idly

[Cody]

Edit - So, two and a half hours, eh? I bet the final cut of the movie won't be that long. From what this guy says, it sounds like several of the Bond-Vesper romantic scenes will be hitting the cutting room floor.

I hope they don't whittle down the Bond-Vesper scenes too much, that's the most important part of the film to me... If there are things that can go without affecting the story or emotion, I'm all for cutting the film down a bit more, but I hope they wouldn't just chop away to get it to a specific length. (Especially after Pirates just made a billion dollars with a 2 1/2 hour run time.)

I'm usually not one to advocate really long running times, but I'm up for Casino Royale joining On Her Majesty's Secret Service at the top of the Bond running times.

[dinovelvet]

I hope they don't whittle down the Bond-Vesper scenes too much, that's the most important part of the film to me... If there are things that can go without affecting the story or emotion, I'm all for cutting the film down a bit more, but I hope they wouldn't just chop away to get it to a specific length. (Especially after Pirates just made a billion dollars with a 2 1/2 hour run time.)

I'm usually not one to advocate really long running times, but I'm up for Casino Royale joining On Her Majesty's Secret Service at the top of the Bond running times.

Yeah no doubt, but it IS possible that some of the scenes really do slow down the film and simply aren't necessary. All of us would happily sit through a 4 hour version of Casino Royale but at some point you have to do what's best for the film. The guy clearly loved the film, but says some of these scenes should go.

BTW I hope Daniel Craig has heard the feedback from this screening, so finally he can be vindicated after all the "fan" he's had to put up with

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

The thing that really got my attention was how the torture sequence has come across. Sounds like they have got it right! Although there is a little bit of nitpicking, overall it's a solid review! I like how he confirms that it, at least in his opnion lives up to the trailer. But to those who have read the script was there any doubt?

[Loomis]

The whole film feels is very retro to the point where someone asked what period it was set in. Even though the technology and cars are clearly modern, you honestly can't tell the period. It's almost like a Pulp Fiction setting.

Interesting.

And, judging by the discussion of the parkour sequence, it sounds like Bond will, in a way, be "learning his trade" from just about everyone he meets in this film, taking a little bit here and a little bit there.

[_Ozu_]

My god, now I'm really worried about 'You know my name', although the rest of the movie seems pretty good.

I hope we can hear YKMN soon too know if they were right choosing Cornell...

Zencat, it still works for me, try reloading.

Edited by _Ozu_, 09 September 2006 - 09:28 PM.

[zencat]

Hey, the story now doesn't load for me. It says Not Found. Did it get yanked?

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

I don't think it's been yanked, maybe this explains it...

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30008

Apparently they are doing some testing and it may cause some problems.

[Andrew]

Try this link instead...

http://www.aintitcoo...ay.cgi?id=24436

[Ace Roberts]

I thought about being a smart-aleck and reminding someone who claimed the test-screening would only come out weeks in advance of how wrong they were - but then I thought better of it. Cough-cough.

Wonder what the scorecard was? This certainly sounded like a positive review - minus the main title song and length of the film. Too bad they didn't follow several people's advice (mine included) to stick with an instrumental theme song. My son loves Chris Cornell so I'll reserve judgment until I hear it. Regarding the length - Sony will probably do everything in their power to cut it as close to a 2 hr 15 min range. Too bad if that's the case. I'd love to see a 2 hr 30 min or longer Bond. But I doubt that will happen.

[dinovelvet]

Wonder what the scorecard was?

"It's safe to say that everyone in attendance thoroughly enjoyed the film. There was a huge round of applause after"

Hmm, I wonder

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

Just a few more things I noticed, The reviewer does seem to be obssessed with QT, reading the review one gets an impression Tarintino had a hand in the production. And the most worrying thing is about Cornell's song. Maybe it's not that it's bad but maybe it just doesn't sound like a normal Bond theme. Oh well like he said, we'll all be there opening night to see and hear for ourselves.

[terminus]

I would've liked more details about the song too - part of me thinks that it could have been just a placeholder song from Audioslave, since the reviewer states it was Audioslave ... it's not, it's Chris Cornell and David Arnold.

[richyawyingtmv]

I would've liked more details about the song too - part of me thinks that it could have been just a placeholder song from Audioslave, since the reviewer states it was Audioslave ... it's not, it's Chris Cornell and David Arnold.

The song is finished. So theres no reason for it not to be in there.

The fact is, I love audioslave and cornell. So...theres no doubt what I'll think of the title theme.

I guess it will just depend on personal taste.

Edited by richyawyingtmv, 09 September 2006 - 10:14 PM.

[Fro]

Yeah, this guy probably just doesn't like Cornell, considering he didn't even know who it was and thinks it's Audioslave. May not even be the final track as used.

Sounds pretty good. Hopefully they don't trim too much from Bond/Vesper and put everything else on the DVD.

Edited by Fro, 09 September 2006 - 10:21 PM.

[Andrew]

I dislike Audioslave and Cornell but I generally have an open mind towards OO7 theme songs so I guess we'll see.

[dinovelvet]

Yeah, this guy probably just doesn't like Cornell, considering he didn't even know who it was and thinks it's Audioslave.

Wouldn't most people assume it was Audioslave upon hearing it, though? I don't think not knowing it was Chris Cornell without the rest of the band means you can't judge it. He mentions that nobody at his table liked it, either. I think one way or the other, its going to be a non-traditional Bond theme which will be offputting for some.

[Harmsway]

Sounds great. I think some of his criticisms sound silly (Bond eating toast is an issue?), and when reading the December draft, Bond and Vesper's interaction seemed to be at a bare minimum, but I haven't seen the finished product to judge.

Still, it's great to her a really positive reaction.

[Qwerty]

Now on the CBn main page...

Casino Royale Test Screening Review

_{Plot spoilers}

[marktmurphy]

The whole film feels is very retro to the point where someone asked what period it was set in. Even though the technology and cars are clearly modern, you honestly can't tell the period. It's almost like a Pulp Fiction setting.

Interesting.

Yes- it's what we'd hoped for, isn't it Loomis? I'm really quite excited by that comment!

Re: the song. I'm not too surprised; I still haven't warmed to Cornell and I haven't been all that hopeful it'll be great.

[richyawyingtmv]

Wouldn't most people assume it was Audioslave upon hearing it, though?

I would agree, but...it'd say Chris Cornell in the title sequence wouldn't it?

Edited by richyawyingtmv, 09 September 2006 - 10:39 PM.

[marktmurphy]

Oh- the martini line: superb. I can see Craig playing that like a dream. Bit annoyed it's been spoiled like that, though. Might have to start seriously avoiding these spoilers.

How come this guy seems to know it's a 12 certificate? It can't have been classified yet, surely? Perhaps they just said what they are aiming at.

[Cody]

Yeah no doubt, but it IS possible that some of the scenes really do slow down the film and simply aren't necessary. All of us would happily sit through a 4 hour version of Casino Royale but at some point you have to do what's best for the film. The guy clearly loved the film, but says some of these scenes should go.

It's possible that there are things that can go. But, when the reviewer complains that the film "humanizes Bond too much" it makes me uncertain of his opinion in this area.

[Jackanaples]

Yeah no doubt, but it IS possible that some of the scenes really do slow down the film and simply aren't necessary. All of us would happily sit through a 4 hour version of Casino Royale but at some point you have to do what's best for the film. The guy clearly loved the film, but says some of these scenes should go.

It's possible that there are things that can go. But, when the reviewer complains that the film "humanizes Bond too much" it makes me uncertain of his opinion in this area.

I completely agree. Luckily, knowing the general reaction to the casting of Craig and the reboot (and how dead-on right they were with them), I'm sure Barbara and Martin will be taking everyone's comments regarding the with a large grain of salt.

[Jack Spang]

"BUT- their interplay is too overemphasised throughout the movie and suffers from being too long at times. They are definitely going to trim it because the film comes in at 2 and a half hours. It could easily be 2:10."

This was something I worried about upon reading the script - the overemphasis. If I understand what he meant correctly there seemed to be a little too much bantering and analysis of one another going on between them. They never seem to be on the same neutral friendly level until Lynd comes to visit Bond in the hospital. The length I don't think is a problem. The scenes between these two seemed to short and few in the script. However, they'd have to cut stuff out if there is too much overemphasis. I doubt they've shot other scenes between them, in which case don't cut any of the Vesper/Bond scenes back! Character movement is good! This is what defines this picture from the other Bond films. This is what this film is all about. Leave it as it is! Both Vesper and Bond are stubborn individuals so the overemphasis is probably justified.

EON, PLEASE DO NOT TRIM THE FILM BACK! If you trim anything back let it be the action.

Interesting to hear he didn

Edited by Jack Spang, 09 September 2006 - 10:58 PM.