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[Andrew]

So what happened to the title sequence involving Bond's background? I was really looking forward to that. I hope they didn't whimp out on us...

It seems they did. The big sign was a while ago when a CASINO ROYALE call sheet described a moment from the title sequence as a bullet passing through a deck of cards and blood spilling out. It seems the "Bond dossier" concept was dropped in favor of something more openly traditional.

Well...that's disappointing...

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

So what happened to the title sequence involving Bond's background? I was really looking forward to that. I hope they didn't whimp out on us...

It seems they did. The big sign was a while ago when a CASINO ROYALE call sheet described a moment from the title sequence as a bullet passing through a deck of cards and blood spilling out. It seems the "Bond dossier" concept was dropped in favor of something more openly traditional.

Well...that's disappointing...

He never said we won't see "Photos from Bond's CV intercut with a high tech printing press". Look at DAD where they used the MTS to tell the story of Bond's torture yet they still retained the usual girls and imagery. It wouldn't be a Bond title sequence if it didn't. They can still do the titles as written in the script yet have the usual title stuff. Kleinmen seems to incorporate theme's into his titles with GE the fall of communism, TND electronics and media, TWINE oil, DAD fire, ice and diamonds and CR seems to have a casino motif.

[Harmsway]

Well, I think his failure to mention what would be a huge, defining feature of the titles essentially means its not there. And personally, I think it would be awkward to see the dossier *and* casino imagery. It's either one or the other.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

Well, I think his failure to mention what would be a huge, defining feature of the titles essentially means its not there. And personally, I think it would be awkward to see the dossier *and* casino imagery. It's either one or the other.

We'll see. He did say it looked like it wasn't fully rendered yet so maybe they haven't worked it into the sequence yet or maybe he was too busy paying attenion to the dancing nudes to notice which wouldn't suprise me.

[Harmsway]

We'll see. He did say it looked like it wasn't fully rendered yet so maybe they haven't worked it into the sequence yet or maybe he was too busy paying attenion to the dancing nudes to notice which wouldn't suprise me.

I think you're a little too hopeful. There has to be consistency in the motifs - a dossier *and* casinos don't mesh. DIE ANOTHER DAY may have featured film footage, but the whole motif of that was just torture. If they incorporate the dossier stuff into the CR titles, it's just going to be a muddled mess.

[Andrew]

Perhaps on the flipside of the cards could be images from his past...

[Harmsway]

Perhaps on the flipside of the cards could be images from his past...

Nobody would understand what it was meant to be, aside from us. That sort of thing worked in OHMSS when people knew all the references, but just random images like that? Nobody would get the significance.

[Jack Spang]

A cup of tea and a slice of toast not very bond! still it would be funny to see although i imagine that bit would end up on the cutting room floor and as for ball crunching OUCH now that made my man wince no man wants his meat and two veg bruised.
Still i enjoyed reading the review it was very in depth without revealing to much this was one lucky fella to see a screening before us.

There's no reason it should end up on the cutting room floor but I bet it probably will. Bond eats alot in the books let him eat in the films! The cinematic Bond needs more of a personal touch. This reviewer didn't like most things that I liked and wants them to be cut like the characterisation and Bond munching toast. God, I can just see them cutting the film to bloody pieces and making it so fast paced like the Brosnan flciks that you can't keep up. If anything should be trimmed, it's the abundance of action and only the action. Can't see what is wrong with a 2 and a half hour film anyway. This guy obviously gets bored with character movement and just wants action and suspense.

[SecretAgentFan]

Well, they won

[CM007]

Adding to this, the fact that CM007 was indeed ousted from the MI6 forums for trolling/insulting and lieing.

I have my serious doubts about this story of his 'friends' seeing a test screening.

Tell me were in the Mi6forums where I was insulting people....in fact can you remember any of the insults that I said to any of the Forum Members.I never got banned but after a little confrontation with Luds I decided not to post there any more as Luds was getting rid of anyone who objected to Craig as Bond.As for Lieing....Prove it.......
I could really care less if you believe me or Not........

Adding to this, the fact that CM007 was indeed ousted from the MI6 forums for trolling/insulting and lieing.

I have my serious doubts about this story of his 'friends' seeing a test screening.

CM007 was "ousted" from the MI6 forums because Luds has gone insane with power over there; trying to turn the boards into a Craig-friendly orgy. That's why. Luds is to the MI6 forums what the Nazis were to Germany in 1939.

Weren't you ousted by Luds? He does give chances, and I have seen him ban some pro-craig trolls.

A few of us were ousted by Luds.....

[CM007]

[quote name='Dr. Noah' post='604592' date='10 September 2006 - 22:55']
[quote name='CM007' post='604582' date='10 September 2006 - 22:41']
Yes I do know what a test screening is....but how did his girlfriend end up at the screening....and by the way for test screenings Film studios send invites to people namely people

[JCRendle]

On the Miami Airport scene

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Do you know I totally forgot about that scene. OMFG, it is off the chain!
It's so good that you're gonna yell plant (to your own self when you watch it). It hasn't got THAT many explosions, but an insane amount of collisions leading up to an explosion of the most slick nature.
You are gonna be so happy homie.

[Dr. Noah]

[quote name='CM007' post='604804' date='11 September 2006 - 10:47']
Yes I know that they used to do that but due to the rise of the Internet I know alot of studios don

[K1Bond007]

[quote name='Dr. Noah' post='605022' date='11 September 2006 - 12:45']
[quote name='CM007' post='604804' date='11 September 2006 - 10:47']
Yes I know that they used to do that but due to the rise of the Internet I know alot of studios don

[CM007]

[quote name='Dr. Noah' post='605022' date='11 September 2006 - 17:45']
[quote name='CM007' post='604804' date='11 September 2006 - 10:47']
Yes I know that they used to do that but due to the rise of the Internet I know alot of studios don

[richyawyingtmv]

[quote name='CM007' post='605081' date='11 September 2006 - 20:04']
It wasn

Edited by richyawyingtmv, 11 September 2006 - 07:32 PM.

[stamper]

Film course ? What next, someone is going to say they are learning how to put on a rock or punk band in college course.

The real, movie directors, who will be remembered for centuries, never got into any film course at all ! Just trow all you learn away

[inSPECTRE]

The real, movie directors, who will be remembered for centuries, never got into any film course at all ! Just trow all you learn away

Not true at all, in any way.

do the names George Lucas, Steven Speilberg ring a bell?

[Dr. Noah]

[quote name='CM007' post='605081' date='11 September 2006 - 19:04']
[quote name='Dr. Noah' post='605022' date='11 September 2006 - 17:45']
[quote name='CM007' post='604804' date='11 September 2006 - 10:47']
Yes I know that they used to do that but due to the rise of the Internet I know alot of studios don

[richyawyingtmv]

Film course ? What next, someone is going to say they are learning how to put on a rock or punk band in college course.

The real, movie directors, who will be remembered for centuries, never got into any film course at all ! Just trow all you learn away

Considering I want to train to be a film editor, and I already have a place in a pretty high-end university doing so next year, I'd rather not throw it all away thanks.

But if you meant throw away conventional techniques of film making in favour of originality, then that makes more sense. But to have any credibility nowadays (in terms of Universities/broadcasting companies/etc), you pretty much need qualifications.

Edited by richyawyingtmv, 11 September 2006 - 08:21 PM.

[Santa]

But if you meant throw away conventional techniques, yes I'd do that anyway. But to have any credibility nowadays (in terms of Universities/broadcasting companies/etc), you pretty much need qualifications.

Kind of depends. I have a surprisingly successful and high-powered career in film and TV (always amazes me that people think I actually know what I'm doing) and when I receive CVs from those with that kind of qualification, they tend to go straight in the bin, this is also what my colleagues do. There are various reasons behind it and I do feel a little guilty but experience has taught me that the ones who've done the training are more trouble than they're worth.

[blueman]

Nothing like a bit of real-life experience! "Books are for clerks!"

[JimmyBond]

Well, the folks at CNB decided to take this extremely positive review, edit it and turn it negative. I wonder what the author of hte original work thinks?

I'd be pretty pissed.

[dinovelvet]

Well, the folks at CNB decided to take this extremely positive review, edit it and turn it negative. I wonder what the author of hte original work thinks?

I'd be pretty pissed.

Well he does say "This film is bad" at the end, but apparently he means its good. Probably was a rather strange and unfortunate thing to write. But really, who is reading the site that isn't really CNB anymore? A positive review on AICN will reach much farther than any negative garbage on a site that nobody actually knows is still in existence, other than people who read Bond forums, who have already read the review for themselves. Its ALMOST funny to watch the freaks desperately try to put a negative spin on it. You know its going to get funnier as the buzz for CR keeps building

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

Well, the folks at CNB decided to take this extremely positive review, edit it and turn it negative. I wonder what the author of hte original work thinks?

I'd be pretty pissed.

Pissed is putting it lightly! I thinks it's time to get all Obanno on these wankers and start lopping off arms with machetes. I know I'm bonkers.

[K1Bond007]

Well, the folks at CNB decided to take this extremely positive review, edit it and turn it negative. I wonder what the author of hte original work thinks?

I'd be pretty pissed.

People elsewhere said similar stuff if you look around. Seriously, I don't think it's too much to ask for that if you submit something to a website or whatever with the intent of having it published on the front page that you do a simple spell and grammar check. I don't expect everyone to write like Ian Fleming, but I think it would be nice for them to write at least on a H.S. level. That was largely my beef with it, well that and the Tarantino BS over and over. Written like that though, how can someone really take it seriously? My two cents.

[dee-bee-five]

But if you meant throw away conventional techniques, yes I'd do that anyway. But to have any credibility nowadays (in terms of Universities/broadcasting companies/etc), you pretty much need qualifications.

Kind of depends. I have a surprisingly successful and high-powered career in film and TV (always amazes me that people think I actually know what I'm doing) and when I receive CVs from those with that kind of qualification, they tend to go straight in the bin, this is also what my colleagues do. There are various reasons behind it and I do feel a little guilty but experience has taught me that the ones who've done the training are more trouble than they're worth.

I couldn't agree more. I, too, have a pretty good job on a successful British TV show and, encouraged by your post, I've thought about the people who work along the corridor here. From the producer down, I can't think of a single person who works on this show who's come in with one of the dreaded "meeja" qualifications. Strangely enough, many - myself included - have come via journalism.

[Santa]

But if you meant throw away conventional techniques, yes I'd do that anyway. But to have any credibility nowadays (in terms of Universities/broadcasting companies/etc), you pretty much need qualifications.

Kind of depends. I have a surprisingly successful and high-powered career in film and TV (always amazes me that people think I actually know what I'm doing) and when I receive CVs from those with that kind of qualification, they tend to go straight in the bin, this is also what my colleagues do. There are various reasons behind it and I do feel a little guilty but experience has taught me that the ones who've done the training are more trouble than they're worth.

I couldn't agree more. I, too, have a pretty good job on a successful British TV show and, encouraged by your post, I've thought about the people who work along the corridor here. From the producer down, I can't think of a single person who works on this show who's come in with one of the dreaded "meeja" qualifications. Strangely enough, many - myself included - have come via journalism.

, I come from a very mixed professional background and a degree in Latin , and my best members of staff over the years I've poached from finance and call-centres. My two worst staff of all time are, as you say, the dreaded 'meeja' graduates.

[Jack Spang]

I always broke the rules at film school and got into trouble. It was much more fun too. "I must maintain my artistic integrity" was my attitude.

[Loomis]

The real, movie directors, who will be remembered for centuries, never got into any film course at all ! Just trow all you learn away

Not true at all, in any way.

do the names George Lucas, Steven Speilberg ring a bell?

Or Michael Mann (the London Film School). There are zillions of examples of people who have made it in the film business who've had film-related higher education, just as there are zillions of examples of people who have made it in the film business who've not had film-related higher education. I'm not in "the biz" myself, but I know quite a few people who are or who have been, in various roles, and they got in in a variety of ways. Some did courses, some didn't. Others simply had the right surname. So you can't say "Don't bother with film school", or assume that anyone who did a course must simply be a clueless waster who did nothing at "uni" but smoke weed, just as you can't say "You absolutely must get a formal education in the subject" - the truth is that there are numerous ways in, and everyone must follow his* particular path.

One thing I've noticed, though, is that even people who are "successful" in film don't always stay in the industry, so getting in, hard as I'm sure it usually is, may be a piece of cake compared to staying in. I've known people who became disillusioned and gave up even after making it, so for real, long-term "success" perhaps the key is sticking with things with unwavering determination, not "Which course should I do?".

*For which read "his or her" - I just find writing "his or her" tediously PC, and I refuse to use such poor English as "their chosen path".