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[Bond#9-GeorgeKemp]

Just a small thing but in the script after Bond says his final line it says that the camera 'screams towards the heavens'?

When reading it, I pictured the camera doing just that actually, Bond says it, a beat, and then the camera flies up still looking at the two men from above and the theme plays.

How did everyone else picture it?

[Matt_13]

Pretty much exactly what you described.

[Simon Beavis]

Ok, I have questions about the "carpet beater" sequence.

Is it before or after the scene where Bond is palming the knife in the hotel?

How do they pull the scene off in a PG-13 movie? I'm not sure, but it sounds like Bond might be naked during this scene.

Does Kratt figure into the sequence?

[Simon Beavis]

well

Spoiler

she isn't working for the Russians, but she is a blackmailed into being a traitor {as per the book)

Spoiler

Is it White that is blackmailing her? I thought Vesper was working White's boss, and neither of the two actually know each other. Which reminds me, there are hints that White is working for someone else, right? Do we get to see a shadowy hand on the phone or anything like that?

[JimmyBond]

Ok, I have questions about the "carpet beater" sequence.

Is it before or after the scene where Bond is palming the knife in the hotel?

After.

How do they pull the scene off in a PG-13 movie? I'm not sure, but it sounds like Bond might be naked during this scene.

You can show men's bare butts in a PG-13 movie, heck you can show nude female's in a PG-13 movie.

Does Kratt figure into the sequence?

Who?

[Harmsway]

Spoiler

Is it White that is blackmailing her? I thought Vesper was working White's boss, and neither of the two actually know each other.

Spoiler

It's pretty clear that Mr. White is the one behind the blackmailing of Vesper, or at the very least his organization. He's certainly aware of it. Vesper has had clear contact with him (Bond uses Vesper's cell phone to track Mr. White down).

Spoiler

Which reminds me, there are hints that White is working for someone else, right? Do we get to see a shadowy hand on the phone or anything like that?

Spoiler

No, but it's very clear that Mr. White has a boss somewhere. Honestly, Mr. White's position and all that is left very ambiguous in CASINO ROYALE, clearly left for BOND 22 to explain.

[killkenny kid]

Why are you such an , Jim, and why does this website put up with you?

Oh, how did I miss this one. Why? Because around here, Jim is one of the Gods.

[Vauxhall]

Does Kratt figure into the sequence?

Who?

Kratt - one of Le Chiffre's henchmen - does indeed feature in the scene.

Spoiler

He cuts the bottom out of the chair that Bond sits on when getting beaten. It is implied that he is killed at the same time as Le Chiffre and Valenka.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

Does Kratt figure into the sequence?

Who?

Kratt - one of Le Chiffre's henchmen - does indeed feature in the scene.

Spoiler

He cuts the bottom out of the chair that Bond sits on when getting beaten. It is implied that he is killed at the same time as Le Chiffre and Valenka.

That brings up something else about Le Chiffre and his henchmen.

Spoiler

I won't go into deatils as we've read the script so we should know how LC and his main goons are dispatched. The question is how do you think the general audience would react? They may be spoiled by the way the last few films dispatched there rouges in OTT and usually gruesome manner. I was one who actually liked the OTT deaths and in a way I'm glad I know what to expect so it won't dissapoint me, it's still rather brutal and fitting just not as exotic as we've seen before. Also the fact that Kratt and Valenka's end are just implied although it's safe to assume they also perished with LC. Even though it is extreamly faithful to the book do you think they have butched it up from the Dec. draft? They butched up the all the major action scenes so do you think maybe they have altered this sequencne? Perhaps making Kratt and Valenka's fate more than implied? I think the audience may feel a little shortchanged if the deaths aren't shown but then again you never know.

Edited by Agent Spriggan Ominae, 18 September 2006 - 08:30 PM.

[Simon Beavis]

Does Kratt figure into the sequence?

Who?

Kratt - one of Le Chiffre's henchmen - does indeed feature in the scene.

Spoiler

He cuts the bottom out of the chair that Bond sits on when getting beaten. It is implied that he is killed at the same time as Le Chiffre and Valenka.

That brings up something else about Le Chiffre and his henchmen.

Spoiler

I won't go into deatils as we've read the script so we should know how LC and his main goons are dispatched. The question is how do you think the general audience would react? They may be spoiled by the way the last few films dispatched there rouges in OTT and usually gruesome manner. I was one who actually liked the OTT deaths and in a way I'm glad I know what to expect so it won't dissapoint me, it's still rather brutal and fitting just not as exotic as we've seen before. Also the fact that Kratt and Valenka's end are just implied although it's safe to assume they also perished with LC. Even though it is extreamly faithful to the book do you think they have butched it up from the Dec. draft? They butched up the all the major action scenes so do you think maybe they have altered this sequencne? Perhaps making Kratt and Valenka's fate more than implied? I think the audience may feel a little shortchanged if the deaths aren't shown but then again you never know.

What does OTT stand for?

[Andrew]

"Over The Top"

[Vauxhall]

In response to Agent Spriggan Ominae's post:

Spoiler

I think it might be a bit difficult to more than imply Kratt and Valenka's deaths, in that I don't believe they could show them both being shot, as that may spoil the element of surprise of Mr White turning up to kill Le Chiffre. They could perhaps show their corpses as they cut away from the scene; that's probably the only real visual means of confirming their deaths.

[DamnCoffee]

Just noticed - this line dont make sense

"The second is...."
"Yes...Considerably"

[Jim]

Just noticed - this line dont make sense

"The second is...."
"Yes...Considerably"

Dont it?

Imagine him saying "The second is easier".

[DamnCoffee]

I hope the producers have picked up on this

[Vauxhall]

I hope the producers have picked up on this

Picked up on what? The line was written with the intention that Dryden never finished what he was saying, because Bond shot him...

[DamnCoffee]

Yeah but it dont make sense though - the audience will think Bond is speaking a load of Bollocks

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

Yeah but it dont make sense though - the audience will think Bond is speaking a load of Bollocks

Why? Myself and many others got what he was saying the when we first heard or read the line. Why change it and totally destroy what is a very darkly humorous and cool scene?

[JimmyBond]

Yeah but it dont make sense though - the audience will think Bond is speaking a load of Bollocks

Only if the audience is stupid. Of course based on the success of the last few Bond films that's hardly debatable

All in good humor, of course.

[NATO Sub]

That line is fine, to me it's pretty obvious what was left unsaid, maybe 10-20% of people won't get it, but they can ask someone else.

[MarcAngeDraco]

I hope the producers have picked up on this

Picked up on what? The line was written with the intention that Dryden never finished what he was saying, because Bond shot him...

I love that line, just the way it is...

[stamper]

No, no, let's pander to the lowest common denominator, let's redub the line so that "easier" is included for those 2% who don't get it ! Let 2% of the audience rule how the movie should be, and ruin it for the 98% left !

Also let's includes invisible cars and X-mas come once a year joke in the movie please. We need a real bond movie, not some reboot I'm not so happy with, also let's cast Hugh Jackman as Bond in "Clawsmaker"

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

Try it in full context then it makes sense.

Dryden:How did he die?
Bond:You contact? Not well.
Dryden: You needn't worry, the second is..
Bond: Yes. Considerably.

[Bondesque]

We should have really dumbed it down. Idiots who need every moment and plot point spelled out in DETAIL must be served. And since EON didn't have the insight to provide Invisible car II, they should have done something like...


Dryden: How did he die?

Bond: Your contact? Not well, I really mucked it up, guts knotted with worry, hands tremebling and I am sure I pissed myself.

Dryden: You needn't worry. They second one is--

Bond: Considerably easier and my knickers are dry to boot.

[manfromjapan]

Anyone willing to email me the script????

[JimmyBond]

Thought I'd post this here because it doesnt really deserve it's own thread:

I've been describing [film]CR[film] as a "Film about James Bond, rather than a James Bond film" to my friends and such. Do you all (who've read the script as well) think this is a correct description?

I really feel the story revolves around James Bond, and all the other stuff is secondary, thoughts?

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

I would consider that an accurate description. This story really is about Bond. He's the main focus and this is his orgin story much like what Batman Begins was for Batman. I've heard alot of complaints from that film how people felt the villains were more of just supporting characters and that's what is happening with CR and that's how I believe it should be. They only have one shot at this tale and Bond needs this story to really sell who he is. In a way Le Chiffre is just a McGuffin. While he is Bond's main advasary in the film he is not as Bond put it "the big picture" which I believe is Bond's relationship with Vesper and it's grave consequences and how it shapes the man he becomes.

Edited by Agent Spriggan Ominae, 29 September 2006 - 05:46 AM.

[1q2w3e4r]

Thought I'd post this here because it doesnt really deserve it's own thread:

I've been describing [film]CR[film] as a "Film about James Bond, rather than a James Bond film" to my friends and such. Do you all (who've read the script as well) think this is a correct description?

I really feel the story revolves around James Bond, and all the other stuff is secondary, thoughts?

Interesting view.

Tell you what, send me the script and I'll tell you what I think

[You've_had_your_six]

As I want to be able to throw my two cents in, is someone able to pm me info on approximately where I should be looking for the script? Perhaps a push in the right direction could speed up the process for me

[SecretAgentFan]

umm, and for me, too?