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[Judo chop]

[quote name='DLibrasnow' date='12 January 2006 - 15:21'][quote name='Mister Asterix' date='12 January 2006 - 13:22'][quote name='DLibrasnow' date='12 January 2006 - 11:11'][quote name='Mister Asterix' date='12 January 2006 - 11:37'][quote name='DLibrasnow' date='12 January 2006 - 09:53']Hmmm....interesting that the name of the villain from the novel has been changed from Le Chiffre to Demetrius.

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Now where does it say that?

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The description of Demetrius sounds a lot like Le Chiffre...think about it.

It makes sense though, with the movie not set in France there is no reason for the villain to have a French name.

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[mra]So then who

[blueman]

Agreed. In CR the novel, Le Chiffre was a tool, like Grant in FRWL. Sounds like they're fleshing out the big bad behind Le Chiffre for the carry-over to Bond 22, and making Le Chiffre more Grant-like. I like it. (I just seem to like everything about this puppy, don't I? )

[Judo chop]

Agreed.  In CR the novel, Le Chiffre was a tool, like Grant in FRWL.  Sounds like they're fleshing out the big bad behind Le Chiffre for the carry-over to Bond 22, and making Le Chiffre more Grant-like.  I like it.  (I just seem to like everything about this puppy, don't I? )

Nothing not to like that I can see, my blue friend. Nothing not to like at all.

[Stax]

So if that theory is true then I guess Le Chiffre is the new Blofeld.

[Qwerty]

So if that theory is true then I guess Le Chiffre is the new Blofeld.

An interesting way for them to do the next villain if that turns out to be. I just hope we hear about this casting soon.

[Harmsway]

I can't believe people are comparing it to DIE ANOTHER DAY already, just based on a simple cast list. There's nothing there that makes me think CASINO ROYALE will be ridiculously over-the-top and overblown like DIE ANOTHER DAY was, and so I don't know where people are getting that connection.

Looks just as over the top than Die Another Day from the cast names, Texas Hold 'Em, the number of femmes, and the budget and the Aston Martin. The same recipe for the same cake. It tastes like more of the same as usual. Can still be very much fun to watch like Die Another Day is if you don't mind action movies.

I don't find any of the cast names particularly over-the-top (the closest is Solari, but even then, I don't think it necessarily has to be treated that way). Unique names has always been part of Bond, as far as I'm concerned. Auric Goldfinger anyone?

And Bond has usually had a number of women - from DN and onwards. It's not unusual. Heck, even in the down-to-earth FRWL Bond beds four girls. And in OHMSS he beds three, and keep going from there.

Texas Hold 'Em has nothing, IMO, that attaches the film to a DAD-style mentality. And an Aston Martin suddenly making it DAD-like? Heck Aston Martins and James Bond are peas in a pod!

It does seem more like this is a generally traditional Bond-style film, rather than a radical change, of course. But that's hardly a bad thing, and hardly necessarily DAD-like. I still think this film is going to be quite different from DAD - and even on a lesser scale than GE (no underwater dish).

And it can't be as "over-the-top" as DAD as you put it. This is still miles more down-to-earth than DAD was. There's no ice palace, no invisible car (no gadgetry much at all, supposedly), one explosion, an honest romance, and all that jazz.

The danger here, I think, is not that they're redoing DAD. It's clear that it's nowhere near close to that. The danger here is that we'll just be getting another film like the past few that we've gotten with a sort of gritty coating. Even if that is what it is, it will hopefully be superior in two aspects: screenplay and the Bond actor, and that's enough to satisfy me. I never expect James Bond to be a sort of Oscar-worthy thrilelr.

I honestly think that CASINO ROYALE will probably end up being a very lush flick with a more down-to-earth emphasis than the Brosnan films ever got - something along the lines of THUNDERBALL, but minus the gadgetry and the epic finale.

[Ace Roberts]

So if that theory is true then I guess Le Chiffre is the new Blofeld.

Or is LeChiffre the henchman and Demetrius or Massus the new Blofeld?

[Andrew]

Massus is a good guy.

[DLibrasnow]

Agreed.  In CR the novel, Le Chiffre was a tool, like Grant in FRWL.  Sounds like they're fleshing out the big bad behind Le Chiffre for the carry-over to Bond 22, and making Le Chiffre more Grant-like.  I like it.  (I just seem to like everything about this puppy, don't I? )

I agree. I think Demetrius is the Le Chiffre character given a different name to reflect the change in locale. The main villain will be someone else, probably the one who employs Le Chiffre/Demetrius.

[blueman]

Agree with your assessment, Harmsway. CR will probably end up somewhere between TB and GE...not bad, eh?

[Blofeld's Cat]

My pick for Demetrius?....

Nikolaj Coster-Waldau

He impressed me in MY NAME IS MODESTY even though I wasn't impressed with the movie itself.

[Judo chop]

[quote name='DLibrasnow' date='12 January 2006 - 18:55'][quote name='blueman' date='12 January 2006 - 15:57']Agreed.

[Agent 76]

I wonder if Eon is going after a known or an unknown actor for the role of Felix Leiter or the American Agent as they seem to call it.

[dinovelvet]

There's a report on Aint it cool today from someone anonymous which basically confirms the Rose Byrne casting, and a couple more tidbits. Apart from what we already now, Caterina Murino, etc :

-Seydina Baldi IS playing the Solari role, obviously Seal is no longer involved
-Demetrius (Simon Abkarian) is the TRUE villain of Casino Royale, not the other unspecified role. Nobody seems to know whether or not there is still a Le Chiffre character in the movie. I'm guessing then that it will be Demetrius who plays poker with Bond and puts him in a certain chair (how could anyone else but the true villain of the movie do those things?)

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

There's a report on Aint it cool today from someone anonymous which basically confirms the Rose Byrne casting, and a couple more tidbits. Apart from what we already now, Caterina Murino, etc :

-Seydina Baldi IS playing the Solari role, obviously Seal is no longer involved
-Demetrius (Simon Abkarian) is the TRUE villain of Casino Royale, not the other unspecified role. Nobody seems to know whether or not there is still a Le Chiffre character in the movie. I'm guessing then that it will be Demetrius who plays poker with Bond and puts him in a certain chair (how could anyone else but the true villain of the movie do those things?)

Somehow I doubt the credibilty of that AICN report. Not that all the info's wrong(I think some of it is right as far as casting). It sounds like hearsay, nothing we don't already know. As far as no Le Chiffre, I doubt they have totally removed the name from the film. Campbell himself mentioned the name Le Chiffre as the main villian and there is that unnamed "main" villian mentioned by Stax who is supposed to be a different character from Demitrius. I wonder what Stax has to say about this new report.

Edited by Agent_Spriggan_Ominae, 18 January 2006 - 10:36 AM.

[Cody]

The descriptions don't point to it, but it seems odd to me - I wonder if there's anything to Solari and Solonge's names being so similar.

(Though I've ruled out the "Turns out Solonge has been Solari in drag all along!" option. )