165 replies to this topic

[Stax]

IGN FilmForce can exclusively report on the film's cast of characters:

http://filmforce.ign...0/680746p1.html

IGN turns up a 'Royale' scoop

Edited by Mister Asterix, 12 January 2006 - 12:11 AM.

[Jim]

Hmm, all very interesting. The Solari thing seems to have taken hold (although I appreciate that repeating a rumour does not make it true).

[dinovelvet]

Perhaps this should be moved to the spoiler forum?

Anyhoo, Le Chiffre possibly in his 20s then? And at least two Bond babes other than Vesper Lynd? A Felix Leiter possibly not called Felix Leiter? Sudanese army commander? We're a long way from 1952, but it looks like they may have added more complexity to the story.

[Stax]

Seeing as how one has to actually leave the forum to read the article and that there is a spoiler warning in the article, I don't see why it needs to be moved to that forum. That said, the decision is meant for the powers-that-be at CBn and not I.

[Kronsteen]

That was an interesting read. If the whole article is true, then it would be rather dissapointing that the villain will not be called Le Chiffre. That is such a cool name for a villain, I certainly hope they keep it in the movie. I also hope that Mathis will be included, I've always liked that character. Otherwise than that it looks good. If those characters are mediterranean, then perhaps Bahamas will be serve as a mediterranean country?

[Stax]

Sources didn't say he wasn't called Le Chiffre. He was merely referred to as the villain. Maybe he'll still be Le Chiffre. And Mathis is now called Massus.

[marktmurphy]

All sounds good; plenty of girls and room for 'star names' in amoungst there.

[dinovelvet]

All sounds good; plenty of girls and room for 'star names' in amoungst there.

Yeah but it also mentions the producers might be seeking a pop star for one of the girl roles, so there's room for Jessica Simpson yet

[Stax]

They didn't mention Simpson. They did mention someone. I need to look into it before saying who it is. Let y'all know what I learn.

[Tinfinger]

Will she be wearing her Daisy Dukes?

[Stax]

No, but you can feel free to.

[Tinfinger]

Heh heh, I don't have the legs for it. Btw, I love your site, Stax. Much better than the fat guy at AICN!

[Stax]

Gracias! We try.

[dinovelvet]

They didn't mention Simpson. They did mention someone. I need to look into it before saying who it is. Let y'all know what I learn.

Uh-oh...so there IS a vapid pop singer of some kind up for the role then?

[Stax]

Possibly. More edgy than vapid, IMO. But maybe it's a "type" like her they want and will cast an actress instead. Still, she was mentioned to me by name.

[marktmurphy]

Possibly. More edgy than vapid, IMO.

Sounds reasonable; a bit more of an indie rock artist than a popstrel then? American, one presumes?

Don't worry about answering- we don't need to play guessing games if you're worried about giving the info out!

[Hitchcock Bond]

The looks like another overloaded Bond in the same mannner of TMD or DAD. It looks to have two or three villians Demetrius, Solari and possibly another villain in late twenties. There appears to have multiple love interests Vesper and I assume that Demetrius' wife Solange and the unamed villain's girlfriend must come under Bond's spell. Plus American and French agents who may or may not be Leiter and Mathis. Will there be the Sudanese army to contend with similarly to the North Koreans? I have to ask why bother to get the rights to Casino Royale and them film Die Another Day 2

[Double-Oh Agent]

I, for one, don't like this news. The villain is not named Le Chiffre? And he's young? Leiter may not be Leiter? Mathis isn't Mathis? And he's old? No Basil or The Corsican? This is not my (nor Fleming's) Casino Royale. Granted, some updating of the plot needs to be done, but surely it's not that hard to keep these great characters much like they were in the novel while at the same time updating the plot. This news is not soothing my worries for the film--it's only making them worse. First the reboot and now this. (Shudder) I'm afraid to think of what might come next. (Maybe those Jessica Simpson rumors ARE true.)

[Tinfinger]

This all sounds a bit on the top heavy side. Granted, the book itself is pretty thin, but it didn't need a whole lot more to it, just some fleshing out. I am really not sure why they are calling it Casino Royale. Maybe they could call it "You asked for it."

[Stax]

Don't despair yet, Double-Oh. I think you're overreacting. I only said that my source didn't refer to the character as Le Chiffre. Like I said a few posts back that doesn't mean he won't be called that.

[marktmurphy]

The looks like another overloaded Bond in the same mannner of TMD or DAD.  It looks to have two or three villians Demetrius, Solari and possibly another villain in late twenties.  There appears to have multiple love interests Vesper and I assume that Demetrius' wife Solange and the unamed villain's girlfriend must come under Bond's spell.  Plus American and French agents who may or may not be Leiter and Mathis.  Will there be the Sudanese army to contend with similarly to the North Koreans? I have to ask why bother to get the rights to Casino Royale and them film Die Another Day 2

Ha! Brilliant- 2 plus 2 really does equal 5! How dare they have more than three people in it!

[Stax]

All the Bond films have big casts. We could go through them ... some of you might ... but this is, after all, a major action movie. Not Henry Jaglom's Casino Royale. Look at all the characters there were in each of the Bourne films or in Batman Begins. As long as Bond is the focus who cares how many secondary characters there are?

Edited by Stax, 11 January 2006 - 10:49 AM.

[mkkbb]

I too am worried by this news. Why make Casino Royale if you're not going to have Le Chiffre and Mathis. What is the reasoning behind changing these names? Is it so the fans wont know their story so it can't be leaked?

Also, why can't Le Chiffre (or whatever he will be called now) be old. We've had too many young villains lately, it's about time we had a Stromberg type character, and Le Chiffre is calling out to be that type of character. Someone like Suchet, someone who couldn't be Bond's son or nephew

[Tinfinger]

This looks to be one of those movies you love to see with a literary snob who keeps commenting how this or that is different than how it was in the book!

[Double-Oh Agent]

Don't despair yet, Double-Oh. I think you're overreacting. I only said that my source didn't refer to the character as Le Chiffre. Like I said a few posts back that doesn't mean he won't be called that.

I hope so, but I don't know, what I read doesn't thrill me. I will admit, however, that aside from the examples I gave, the rest of it sounds okay. But the Demetrius character sounds a lot like Le Chiffre with just a different name. I suppose they may have changed the name because us Americans wouldn't know what Le Chiffre means a la Licence Revoked.

[marktmurphy]

I too am worried by this news. Why make Casino Royale if you're not going to have Le Chiffre and Mathis. What is the reasoning behind changing these names? Is it so the fans wont know their story so it can't be leaked?

I would hazard a guess that Mathis is gone because it isn't set in France and has nothing to do with France, therefore having a French agent with a French name involved may look a little odd.

[Stax]

DEAR GOD, PEOPLE! READING COMPREHENSION SKILLS! For the third time, I never said the villain would not be called Le Chiffre. I just thought it odd that my sources only referred to him as the villain and not by name! Stop overreacting. He might still be called Le Chiffre.

I've gone back and clarified my phrasing in the story so as to not confuse anyone else re: the villain's name.

Edited by Stax, 11 January 2006 - 11:12 AM.

[spynovelfan]

[quote name='Tinfinger' date='11 January 2006 - 10:44']This all sounds a bit on the top heavy side.

[Double-Oh Agent]

This looks to be one of those movies you love to see with a literary snob who keeps commenting how this or that is different than how it was in the book!

Maybe, but we're not talking about subtle changes here. There is a lot of stuff that's different and not just stuff that's being used to flesh out a thin book. Major characters are either missing or changed. That's pretty significant. Just imagine North By Northwest with James Mason's character being played by a young actor and Martin Landau's character not being in it at all and instead substituted with someone else entirely. It would give that film a whole new look and likely affect viewers' attitudes to the film--Cary Grant or not.

[Stax]

I understand concerns about making Le Chiffre/the villain too young. I really liked the book but it is too thin and too dated to be literally adapted to the screen as a contemporary feature-length film. It is not My Dinner With Le Chiffre. It needs enough sequences (both action and dramatic) to sustain audience's interest. A 45 minute card game won't cut it. Hence, new or additional characters. As long as the torture scene and Bond's relationship with Vesper is faithful I can live with it. Oh, yeah, and no Texas Hold 'Em!