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[Harmsway]

It looks terrible, like all Spielberg last movies...

What haven't you liked thus far?

Could anyone mentaly sane say : "A.I., War of the worlds, Hook, Always, Minority report, and The terminal are good movies" ....?

MINORY REPORT is one of the best sci-fi films in recent years, CATCH ME IF YOU CAN is a very good movie, and WAR OF THE WORLDS was deftly directed even if it was hollow. And let's not forget SCHINDLER'S LIST or SAVING PRIVATE RYAN or AMISTAD.

It surely is a question of taste...
For me, Spielberg last good movie -and arguably the only good one with "Close encounters..." and "Colour purple", now that he modified "E.T." for politically correct indecent reasons- is Schindler's list. I found his last films pretentious and intellectually doubtful... It's only my opinion. I'm not a specıalıst in cinema, but, for me, Spielberg has nothing interessant to say anymore.

Not a fan of JAWS, or RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, or DUEL? Those three are some of the finest films ever made.

[triviachamp]

According to the imdb Michael Lonsdale is in this. Not too sure if this is true though.

Edit: Apparently he was on the set one day so I guess he is in it.

Edited by triviachamp, 05 November 2005 - 08:50 PM.

[spynovelfan]

Looks interesting. I really liked the 1999 documentary about this, ONE DAY IN SEPTEMBER. Trailer for that here.

[Qwerty]

Trailer looks very interesting. I'll be checking this one out.

[vegasbond]

What do you think it will be rated? A strong PG-13 movie or a R-rated movie? Just curious

[Qwerty]

Am guessing PG-13.

[darthbond]

hay, looks good. Just have John Williams(star wars music) Steven Speliberg, and Dan Craig and I am in. Looks like PG-13.

darthbond

[SeanValen00V]

Bana's hair is making him look unbondian, but give him a haircut, he'll be more Bondian lol, that hair is not james bond.

Films looks good.

[tdalton]

The movie looks good. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing it.

[Lounge Lizard]

Has Craig's part been identified yet? The IMDB doesn't list a character name.

And YES, I'm looking forward to this.

And YES, Spielberg is back on track since 2002. Minority Report is a minor masterpiece, Catch Me If You Can brings out the best in DiCaprio, and War of the Worlds is one of the two movies I enjoyed most in cinema this summer (the other being Batman Begins). The Terminal, I have to admit, is a sugarcoated turd however.

[Bryce (003)]

Fine trailer.

The MOSSAD struck back and established themselves as one of the finest intelligence services with their actions. The US services (CIA, NSA) could/should take a lesson from this one IMO.

Outside of Bond, two of my subjects of interest are this story and the JFK conspiracy.

I'm really looking forward to this film as it is quite the ultimate of a nation seeking revenge for no other purpose than what the world witnessed.

Payback.

Forgive.

NEVER forget.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

Well said 003.

[Bryce (003)]

Well said 003.

*tips hat*

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

*raises glass

I too think this looks like a great film, even if Craig isn't really the lead.

Intense is the word I think people used on the last page...that certainly seems true, and as it should be.

[Blofeld's Cat]

The MOSSAD struck back and established themselves as one of the finest intelligence services with their actions. The US services (CIA, NSA) could/should take a lesson from this one IMO.

And don't forget the Entebie raid to save the highjacked passengers in Uganda.

I wasn't interested in seeing this movie, but after hearing the trailer, the poster and various posts here I'm sold on seeing it now.

[Bryce (003)]

And don't forget the Entebie raid to save the highjacked passengers in Uganda.

Very true BC. Again, another fine moment for them.

[Quartermaster007]

Looks coolio, one of my must sees along with Saw II and Derailed.

[triviachamp]

Has Craig's part been identified yet? The IMDB doesn't list a character name.

Judging from the trailer he is the team's driver. In the HBO movie Sword of Gideon, which has the same source material as Munich, this character is named "Jean."

[Righty007]

That trailer is awesome!

One of the athletes murdered in Munich graduated from my high school. Our weight room is named after him now.

[tdalton]

Looks coolio, one of my must sees along with Saw II and Derailed.

Same here. Munich, Saw II, and Derailed are on my must see list at the moment.

[Loomis]

Has Craig's part been identified yet? The IMDB doesn't list a character name.

Judging from the trailer he is the team's driver. In the HBO movie Sword of Gideon, which has the same source material as Munich, this character is named "Jean."

Cheers, triviachamp.

Judging by the trailer, Craig seems to be using a British accent in this film - which of course doesn't necessarily mean that his character isn't an Israeli citizen, but I was wondering whether he plays an MI6 ally of the Mossad team, or something like that.

Are Bana, Craig and co. playing real people, or is MUNICH "based on a true story" with fictional characters?

[Lounge Lizard]

Yes, good job, triviachamp!

[triviachamp]

Cheers, triviachamp.

Judging by the trailer, Craig seems to be using a British accent in this film - which of course doesn't necessarily mean that his character isn't an Israeli citizen, but I was wondering whether he plays an MI6 ally of the Mossad team, or something like that.

Are Bana, Craig and co. playing real people, or is MUNICH "based on a true story" with fictional characters?

It is based on the book "Vengeance" by George Jonas. I don't know what changes Tony Kushner made in the screenplay, and I believe the book's accuracy has been called into question. It could be using fictional characters which is what I would think.

Anyway the people who read the script say it is incredible and will make lots of people mad!

I recall that in this book the four Mossad men were not Israeli born.

Edited by triviachamp, 06 November 2005 - 05:50 PM.

[Major Bloodnok]

It looks terrible, like all Spielberg last movies...

What haven't you liked thus far?

Could anyone mentaly sane say : "A.I., War of the worlds, Hook, Always, Minority report, and The terminal are good movies" ....?

MINORY REPORT is one of the best sci-fi films in recent years, CATCH ME IF YOU CAN is a very good movie, and WAR OF THE WORLDS was deftly directed even if it was hollow. And let's not forget SCHINDLER'S LIST or SAVING PRIVATE RYAN or AMISTAD.

It surely is a question of taste...
For me, Spielberg last good movie -and arguably the only good one with "Close encounters..." and "Colour purple", now that he modified "E.T." for politically correct indecent reasons- is Schindler's list. I found his last films pretentious and intellectually doubtful... It's only my opinion. I'm not a specıalıst in cinema, but, for me, Spielberg has nothing interessant to say anymore.

So it's safe you say you won't be kicking my seat and talking through the whole movie when I go to see it? Sounds good to me.

[Alessandra]

Anyone know anything about Craig's character in this? I'm assuming he plays an Israeli intelligence agent, but I may be wrong.

He's one of the team of four that accompany Bana in his killing spree. He's the driver. They play assassins.
Did you get the line on "I don't like to think of myself as an assassin"
and Bana replying "then think of yourself as something else" LOL
in the context it's a very hard sentence, but I couldn't help seeing the humour in it...
The movie looks very good, although on a very, very sad subject. Can't even think about it..
It isn't on a true story, it's on a prospected scenario afterwards. I mean it may as well have happened but there's no evidence that it has? (don't know if this sentence is quite clear! lol ).
If there was evidence of that it'd be an international scandal.. it's a country deliberately deciding to kill people for vendetta. Not that this doesn't actually happen, (AHEM ) but you can't portray it in a movie as a real story without solid evidence.. it would cause a major crisis. Especially now that we're finally trying to get to an agreement? (between Israel and Palestine that is).
It clearly is Bana's movie.. and his performance from the trailer looks terrific.
And Craig too looks very fit for the role. That'll garner him positive acting critics for sure.
The role in my opinion has nothing to do with Bond though. It's another of his "troubled assassins" role.. which I'm sure he'll be very good at anyway.

Edited by Alessandra, 15 November 2005 - 04:44 PM.

[Loomis]

It's another of his "troubled assassins" role.. which I'm sure he'll be very good at anyway.

I'm not aware of any other troubled assassin roles that Craig has played (although I'm no expert on his filmography, so for all I know he has indeed played such roles). Of course, there's that bit in LAYER CAKE, but it's not as though his character is an intelligence agent or professional killer.

It looks to me as though Craig's MUNICH character is similar to Brosnan's in THE TAILOR OF PANAMA, insofar as people will interpret it (rightly or wrongly) as "the dark and gritty version of Bond that Eon would never allow".

[spynovelfan]

It isn't on a true story, it's on a prospected scenario afterwards. I mean it may as well have happened but there's no evidence that it has? (don't know if this sentence is quite clear! lol ).
If there was evidence of that it'd be an international scandal.. it's a country deliberately deciding to kill people for vendetta. Not that this doesn't actually happen, (AHEM ) but you can't portray it in a movie as a real story without solid evidence.. it would cause a major crisis. Especially now that we're finally trying to get to an agreement? (between Israel and Palestine that is).

I'm pretty sure it's based on a true story, Alessandra. The 'Wrath of God' operation has had loads of stuff written about it. Here's a good summary:

http://www.specialop...ath_of_god.html

There's at least one book about this. ONE DAY IN SEPTEMBER dealt with it a little, too.

[Alessandra]

It isn't on a true story, it's on a prospected scenario afterwards. I mean it may as well have happened but there's no evidence that it has? (don't know if this sentence is quite clear! lol ).
If there was evidence of that it'd be an international scandal.. it's a country deliberately deciding to kill people for vendetta. Not that this doesn't actually happen, (AHEM ) but you can't portray it in a movie as a real story without solid evidence.. it would cause a major crisis. Especially now that we're finally trying to get to an agreement? (between Israel and Palestine that is).

I'm pretty sure it's based on a true story, Alessandra. The 'Wrath of God' operation has had loads of stuff written about it. Here's a good summary:

http://www.specialop...ath_of_god.html

There's at least one book about this. ONE DAY IN SEPTEMBER dealt with it a little, too.

What I meant is that there's no uncontroversial evidence on it. It's a true story like the JFK mistery afterwards... (on that I am an expert, on this far less).
there are lots of real people involved and lots of hints, but nobody can say for sure what happened.
or am I wrong Spy?

[Alessandra]

It's another of his "troubled assassins" role.. which I'm sure he'll be very good at anyway.

I'm not aware of any other troubled assassin roles that Craig has played (although I'm no expert on his filmography, so for all I know he has indeed played such roles). Of course, there's that bit in LAYER CAKE, but it's not as though his character is an intelligence agent or professional killer.

It looks to me as though Craig's MUNICH character is similar to Brosnan's in THE TAILOR OF PANAMA, insofar as people will interpret it (rightly or wrongly) as "the dark and gritty version of Bond that Eon would never allow".

yea I was referring to Layer Cake..
I actually should've said "troubled person bordering to assassin" lol
He often plays these very troubled souls.. and this is yet another of them.
You may be right about it being resemblant to tailor of panama.. although it is less prominent a role, he is a co-star.

[Dalton's Wendy]

It is based on the book "Vengeance" by George Jonas. I don't know what changes Tony Kushner made in the screenplay, and I believe the book's accuracy has been called into question. It could be using fictional characters which is what I would think.

The things one learns when one reads CBn!

Thank you, triviachamp, for this info -- I completely forgot about George Jonas' book! George is a very old friend of mine; we used to live in the same apartment building. He was one of the most gallant and charming men on the face of the earth; fabulously witty and cosmopolitan, rather homely, but married at that time to an extremely beautiful and brilliant woman (triviachamp: as a fellow Torontonian, send me a pm, and I'll tell you, if you don't already know who it was). George was forever trying -- at that time, unsuccessfully -- to quit smoking, and used to walk around with an empty cigarette holder clenched between his teeth. He was a marvellous raconteur, and the local literary celebrity of his day.

I recall that in this book the four Mossad men were not Israeli born.

Probably true; the chances are more than likely that they were the children of parents who emigrated to Israel from Europe after World War II. At that time, native-born Israelis were the exception, rather than the rule.

Edited by Dalton's Wendy, 19 November 2005 - 07:46 AM.