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[bondrules]

The Actors Nominate Heath Ledger
Source:Screen Actors Guild
December 18, 2008

The Screen Actors Guild (SAG) announced the nominations for the 15th Annual Screen Actors Guild Awards this morning and Heath Ledger received a nomination for supporting actor in The Dark Knight. He is up against Josh Brolin for Milk, Robert Downey Jr. for Tropic Thunder, Philip Seymour Hoffman for Doubt and Dev Patel for Slumdog Millionaire.

In the Stunt Ensemble category, four superhero movies were nominated, including The Dark Knight, Hellboy II: The Golden Army, Iron Man and Wanted. The only other movie nominated was Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

The Awards ceremony will be simulcast Live on Sunday, Jan. 25, on TNT and TBS at 8 PM ET/PT. The full list of nominations is available here.

http://www.sagawards.org/PR_081218

[agentjamesbond007]

I just saw the movie today. It was kind of good. Though, I think the first one was better.

[bondrules]

I found this link comparing TDK on DVD vs BR.

http://forums.superh...;postcount=3689

Obviously you have to see it person to really see the difference, but you get the idea nonetheless....

What it really shows though is how HORRIBLE the DVD transfer is. I have the DVD single disc edition, and it's quite the throwback to 1998 DVD quality releases....I have a TrueHD LG 42 Plasma, and an Upconverting player, and still, the image quality is way far down in quality....The BR quality is very good but for a 2008 release it's just above average...it's not great....and not what I expected....I've seen so many other BR releases that rip this BR-TDK apart.....shame really....that's another reason for me not to get BR right now.....price, slow, overhyped, already own most movies I want, upconverter with True HD Tv is 90% alike BR (IMHO)....Movies in my house look as good as possible, and my friend with his BR collection has shown me many titles we both own, and the difference is barely noticeable (again, with my player and TV set, I don't know how it works for others).

[JackWade]

Yup.

Gotta admit, the picture quality on the BD is kinda underwhelming (as is the special features disc, for that matter).

Ah well. It all leads to the inevitable double-dip, no doubt.

[bondrules]

Yup.

Gotta admit, the picture quality on the BD is kinda underwhelming (as is the special features disc, for that matter).

Ah well. It all leads to the inevitable double-dip, no doubt.

Yeah, the extras was another issue I have with this release. No in depth look at the Joker? No interviews with Ledger? I would have liked to see for example a segment related to the comic books Nolan gave Ledger to get into character.....covering Arkham Asylum, The long Halloween, The Killing Joke, The Man Who Laughs, etc.....there is so much to go over that is so unfair how poor the extras were on all of the TDK home releases......

[Captain Tightpants]

Actually, I'd be very against an "in-depth look" at the Joker. One of the film's biggest draw cards is that it refuses to analyse him with pop psychology, and because of that it does not present him as the sum of his shortcomings. THE DARK KNIGHT makes the Joker a force of nature, and analysing and assessing him would simply remove the impact of that. Having a feature on how the Joker came into being in terms of constume and makeup would be interesting, but in this case, less is more when it comes to the character.

[DamnCoffee]

Oh! WOW!

The Dark Knight - Quantum of Solace parody.
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[tdalton]

[edit-wrong thread]

Edited by tdalton, 23 December 2008 - 07:11 PM.

[HildebrandRarity]

I bot TDK on DVD last week and saw it for the first time this weekend at home after three theatrical viewings, the last of them IMAX.

I think there are three things that bother me still:

1. I think some of the shots of - and one liners by - the police escort team is just pure bumkum. Horrendous. Cliche'd and worse. Too bad they didn't edit those parts out and played it 'straighter'.

2. The shootout/sonar sequence in the building at the "ferries at midnight" scene was overly long and drawn out and mostly unnecessary.

3. I think the action is less spectacular than in Quantum Of Solace.

Bottom line: It could have done with some editing because I feel this movie is a bit longer that it should be.

TDK is a very good movie...an 8.5 out of 10...but I think it could have been better if it were edited down to a lesser run time, imo. Plus there was the posthumus factor surrounding Heath which caused major hype leading into this summer. I fear the movie will lose some cachet over time and be simply regarded as a very good blockbuster rather than something uber extraordinary.

[sharpshooter]

1. I think some of the shots of - and one liners by - the police escort team is just pure bumkum. Horrendous. Cliche'd and worse. Too bad they didn't edit those parts out and played it 'straighter'.

Completely agreed. The film is near perfect, which makes the silly things like this all the more frustrating to witness.

[Matt_13]

1. I think some of the shots of - and one liners by - the police escort team is just pure bumkum. Horrendous. Cliche'd and worse. Too bad they didn't edit those parts out and played it 'straighter'.

Completely agreed.

I always saw that as a way to keep our eyes off of Gordon. The lines are poor but they did their job.

[baerrtt]

1. I think some of the shots of - and one liners by - the police escort team is just pure bumkum. Horrendous. Cliche'd and worse. Too bad they didn't edit those parts out and played it 'straighter'.

Completely agreed.

I always saw that as a way to keep our eyes off of Gordon. The lines are poor but they did their job.

I've always seen the dialogue (and certain aspects of the chase scene i.e the 2 boys imaginary 'shooting' at the cars)as small but unsubtle reminders that yes the film you're watching may be dark and intense but ultimately it's a summer blockbuster.

Basically the Nolans wanted bits in that pulled back from the relentess anti-family movie they knew they had freedom to do.

[HildebrandRarity]

1. I think some of the shots of - and one liners by - the police escort team is just pure bumkum. Horrendous. Cliche'd and worse. Too bad they didn't edit those parts out and played it 'straighter'.

Completely agreed.

I always saw that as a way to keep our eyes off of Gordon. The lines are poor but they did their job.

I've always seen the dialogue (and certain aspects of the chase scene i.e the 2 boys imaginary 'shooting' at the cars)as small but unsubtle reminders that yes the film you're watching may be dark and intense but ultimately it's a summer blockbuster.

Basically the Nolans wanted bits in that pulled back from the relentess anti-family movie they knew they had freedom to do.

I don't know about that. My 13 year old thought that when the Bat Pod goes up against the wall and does an almost instant 180...well, that was pretty KOOL. There's enough "fun" things about the chase sequence for it to avoid the wincing and unnecessary cop dialogue.

What do people think about the drawn-out shoot-out sequence involving the sonar now that people have had a chance to check out the dvd/ Blu-ray at home?

Does it feel like it's bogging down the movie?

[[dark]]

What do people think about the drawn-out shoot-out sequence involving the sonar now that people have had a chance to check out the dvd/ Blu-ray at home?

Does it feel like it's bogging down the movie?

I haven't had the chance to watch it on DVD yet, but I can't imagine my opinion on it changing: it doesn't really mesh with the realistic tone of the rest of the film. The sonar plot device might be, in my view, the biggest blight on the movie.

[Loomis]

What do people think about the drawn-out shoot-out sequence involving the sonar now that people have had a chance to check out the dvd/ Blu-ray at home?

Does it feel like it's bogging down the movie?

Not really. It's pretty short, for one thing.

However, I do agree with you fully on the subject of that cringeworthy business with the wisecracking cops. It was as though the film had suddenly turned into A VIEW TO A KILL.

That's pretty much my only gripe with THE DARK KNIGHT, though.

[baerrtt]

1. I think some of the shots of - and one liners by - the police escort team is just pure bumkum. Horrendous. Cliche'd and worse. Too bad they didn't edit those parts out and played it 'straighter'.

Completely agreed.

I always saw that as a way to keep our eyes off of Gordon. The lines are poor but they did their job.

I've always seen the dialogue (and certain aspects of the chase scene i.e the 2 boys imaginary 'shooting' at the cars)as small but unsubtle reminders that yes the film you're watching may be dark and intense but ultimately it's a summer blockbuster.

Basically the Nolans wanted bits in that pulled back from the relentess anti-family movie they knew they had freedom to do.

I don't know about that. My 13 year old thought that when the Bat Pod goes up against the wall and does an almost instant 180...well, that was pretty KOOL. There's enough "fun" things about the chase sequence for it to avoid the wincing and unnecessary cop dialogue.

What do people think about the drawn-out shoot-out sequence involving the sonar now that people have had a chance to check out the dvd/ Blu-ray at home?

Does it feel like it's bogging down the movie?

I'm not saying I liked the dialogue(far from it as it completely jars) but I can imagine it was an attempt to leaven an intense scene with 'traditional' blockbuster humour.

[Harmsway]

Looks like THE DARK KNIGHT is looking at a strong shot for an Academy Award Best Picture nomination, after all:

The Producers Guild of America (PGA) has named its five finalists for Best Moving Picture of 2008. Remember these titles:

THE CURIOUS CASE OF BENJAMIN BUTTON
THE DARK KNIGHT
FROST/NIXON
MILK
SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE

'Cuz you're going to be hearing these five movies rattled off again when the AMPAS announce their nominations for the 81st Academy Awards (on January 22nd). Okay, maybe DOUBT sneaks in there.

Still, the PGA noms are typically the most reliable predictor of what will make the cut for the top trophy at the Oscars. It's rare that they don't get four out of five. And while some may argue that THE DARK KNIGHT has the best chance at being the odd picture out, my instincts tell me that MILK is the one most at risk. That said, I thought these were the final five two months ago, and I'm sticking with 'em.

Via AintItCool.

[[dark]]

I just read that. I suspect that list of films will be what we see nominated for the Best Picture Oscar, actually.

[HildebrandRarity]

It's amazing what they come up with.

I have only seen TDK out of the five, three times at the theatre and then bought the disk.

So, I shall root for The Bat Man, The Joker and Harvey eventhough i'll be doing/seeing something else that night.

[Harmsway]

I just read that. I suspect that list of films will be what we see nominated for the Best Picture Oscar, actually.

Probably, with the remarkably overrated SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE taking home the award.

My "final five" would look like this:

THE CURIOUS CASE OF BENJAMIN BUTTON
THE DARK KNIGHT
DOUBT
FROST/NIXON
WALL-E

But I still need to see IN BRUGES, SON OF RAMBOW, MONGOL, BURN AFTER READING, SYNECDOCHE NEW YORK, MILK, THE READER, and THE WRESTLER before I set that in stone.

[[dark]]

I'd love to see WALL·E nominated, but I can't see the Academy branching out far enough to give nods to both it and The Dark Knight.

I'm yet to see Slumdog Millionaire, but it's disappointing to hear you consider it overrated. I might try to catch it this weekend.

I don't think Frost/Nixon has been playing around here, and Doubt sounds depressing as hell (maybe not as depressing as the trailer for Revolutionary Road, though, which sucked the life force completely out of my body).

Anyway, back on topic: The Dark Knight is brilliant.

[Harmsway]

I'm yet to see Slumdog Millionaire, but it's disappointing to hear you consider it overrated. I might try to catch it this weekend.

Not just I, but other recent CB.n viewers (Vauxhall and JackWade) found it less than stellar. I'd wait for DVD, myself.

I don't think Frost/Nixon has been playing around here, and Doubt sounds depressing as hell (maybe not as depressing as the trailer for Revolutionary Road, though, which sucked the life force completely out of my body).

Going into DOUBT, I was bracing myself for a gut-wrenching flick, but I was surprised to find that, despite some incredibly emotionally poignant moments, that it wasn't particularly depressing. It's certainly not in the company of the bleaker films of yesteryear, like SWEENEY TODD and THERE WILL BE BLOOD and NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN.

No, DOUBT is more of an engrossing enigma of a tale. A layered mystery in which the father's "did he or didn't he" pedophilia is more of a MacGuffin than it is the film's topic, and it's never met head-on. It's background material, and always looked at out of the corner of the eye. The emotional content of the story is on the short-and-sweet war of wills, which is remarkably entertaining to watch.

I daresay you should see DOUBT, [dark]. You'll really miss out if you don't.

[Vauxhall]

We can now add a Golden Globe for Heath Ledger to the list. Standing ovation from the audience, and a fitting tribute from Christopher Nolan collecting the award.

[sharpshooter]

A well deserved win for Mr. Ledger. Bring on The Oscars.

[JackWade]

Fantastic speech as well by Mr. Nolan. You'd think that this should solidify his Oscar, but some think that Heath's Golden Globe might deter Oscar voters, notably since the Academy doesn't always vote in unison with the Hollywood Foreign Press.

I still think he wins the Oscar, though. He's won Best Supporting Actor with every major American critics association. No reason to believe at this point that the Academy will do any differently.

[[dark]]

ComingSoon.net has a full list of IMAX re-release locations.

I'd love to check it out on the big, big screen one more time, but I really don't think I'll get the chance. I wonder if the lack of Oscar nominations for The Dark Knight will cause this re-release to take in less cash than it would have if it was up for Best Picture and/or Best Director.

[DamnCoffee]

Urgh. They're never re-releasing it. I'm sorry, It's just that it's constantly in our faces all of the time and loads of people who I know are getting really pissed off with it and beginning to dislike it.

[Vauxhall]

It was a shame that THE DARK KNIGHT largely missed out on the major categories, but it still picked up eight Oscar nominations overall (the equal third best tally, I believe):

• Best Supporting Actor
• Art Direction
• Cinematography
• Film Editing
• Make-Up
• Sound Editing
• Sound Mixing
• Visual Effects

[Harmsway]

I'm sorry, It's just that it's constantly in our faces all of the time and loads of people who I know are getting really pissed off with it and beginning to dislike it.

Inevitable with something as hyped as THE DARK KNIGHT.

I don't really mind the re-release. Yes, it's a shameless cash-in, but on the whole, I think it's rather inoffensive. Those who want to go will go, and those who won't, won't. No harm done.

As for me, I won't go. Don't see much point now that I have the DVD (and I've already seen it in IMAX).

[sharpshooter]

Others can go if they wish, but I’ve got the DVD now, so it’s pretty pointless. I’d much rather a re-release of Batman (1989) to commemorate the 20th anniversary. I watched that film countless times as a child, so seeing it on the big screen for the first time would be excellent.