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[zencat]

From Dr. Shatterhand's website.

As this website has reported in the past, and most recently my friends at CommanderBond.net, Pierce Brosnan will be back as OO7 in perhaps his best and final James Bond film.

Just wanted to clarify that we never said Pierce WILL be back, just that a Sony source said "It will probably be Pierce." At the end of the article we clearly say Craig is still in the running and, for all we know, there could be others as well. It's not over until the fat lady signs.

As to the rest of the good doctor's article. It's a good article, but I haven't head a peep about a 2 Bond film other than on the internet and I think it's just a little too weird of a concept to be true (and it seems sort of hacky to me). But I guess nothing is impossible.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

Plus if the audience's respond to Cavill he can carry on the Bond mantel in Bond 22 an onward.

The only thing about that is it makes no sense for Cavill to age into Pierce and then turn back into himself in Bond 22.

[Willie Garvin]

I can see this working IF the flashback is relatively brief--perhaps as the PTS and only a shade longer than the PTS in The World Is Not Enough(a movie which,arguably,borrowed key ingredients from the Casino Royale novel, with the duplicitous Femme Fatale and the torture chair).Maybe something about 30 to 40 minutes long- a distillation of the key moments of the novel with Cavill as 007.The remainder of Casino Royale, following the titles and about 90 minutes long , would then be set today with Brosnan as Bond hunting down Le Chiffre and once again coming across Vesper--who'd be played by?She'd be at least 43 after 20 years,so it's hard to imagine a 23 year-old Sienna Miller would be doing that.

The idea of using two actors as James Bond would be very risky for Eon and because they've usually been a very cautious bunch, I'm not sure this will ever happen.

[Loeffelholz]

Michelle Pfeiffer should play the 40ish Vesper.

[Willie Garvin]

Full agreement.And if that happened then two Americans would be playing Vesper Lynd.According to the IMDb,Sienna Miller is an American citizen--the daughter of an American father and South African mother.Then of course,Brosnan's now an American too, and would thus be the second American to play James Bond in Casino Royale-following in the footsteps of Barry Nelson who was "Card-Sense" Jimmy Bond in the tv adaptation.

Ahh, trivia...

Edited by Willie Garvin, 26 September 2005 - 12:45 AM.

[Harmsway]

Then again, maybe, just maybe, this is true. If it is, then the people behind the Bond films are more unoriginal than I could ever have suspected.

Yeah, but it'd still be new territory for Bond, even if it's a bad cinematic retread. Sure, it's unoriginal (Vesper back from the dead?! Come on...), but as disastrous I think this idea may be, I'd be terribly interested in seeing it take shape as a film.

Sometimes, a really bizarre idea that flops is more interesting than usual 007. Of course, I want Casino Royale done right, but I'd rather see it try to do something different than slipping into usual Bond territory. How the heck would they even begin to market it? How would they do the trailers?

The logistics of this idea have way too many problems. That's why I think it's bull, and I doubt the producers would do something so hard to pull off. But who knows at this point.

[WC]

... and once again coming across Vesper--who'd be played by?She'd be at least 43 after 20 years,so it's hard to imagine a 23 year-old Sienna Miller would be doing that.

Unless of course Vesper was just a 3 year old when she first betrayed Bond when he was 28 - then Sienna Miller would be the right age to play the adult Vesper. Of course, Brosnan would come off looking like a dirty old man! But then so would Henry Cavill.

[tdalton]

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I understand the need to change certain parts of the novel to better fit the screen, but do they need to change the Vesper character and have her "fake her own death" like some have talked about in the thread. Just have the entire thing set with 1 actor playing James Bond and have Sienna Miller play Vesper Lynd throughout the entire film, and have the ending of the novel and everything else remain faithful to the novel.

[terminus]

If they do this storyline and put some with Cavill-Bond and some with Brosnan-Bond : do we really need Vesper to be in both parts.

Cavill-Bond could have a different girl, perhaps Le Chiffre's girl and then when we flash forward - have Brosnan-Bond with Vesper !

[Gri007]

All I can think of is that CR will be two stories in one. Flemings CR will be the flashback starring Henry Cavill, and a new story containing Le Chiffre revenge and the resurection of Vesper could be the Purvis, Wade and Haggis story starring Brosnan. Flemings story being in the first half of the film and the 'new' one being in the latter end of the film.

[Qwerty]

Michelle Pfeiffer should play the 40ish Vesper.

I'd rather see her as a Bond girl on the evil side.

[dinovelvet]

Hey I just realized that this whole scenario might explain the Fiat Panda...the young, doesn't-know-any-better Bond drives the Fiat Panda, and the older Bond drives an Aston Martin!

[Forever007]

This is simply insane. Every single day I log in to CBN hoping I see the headline of the new Bond and instead get pulled in 100 different directions. It is impossible to believe anything at this point, even from "reliable" sources. I hope this all comes to an end soon and we can get some concrete news on Bond. At this point I do not even care who plays 007!

[Bon-san]

This is simply insane.  Every single day I log in to CBN hoping I see the headline of the new Bond and instead get pulled in 100 different directions.  It is impossible to believe anything at this point, even from "reliable" sources.  I hope this all comes to an end soon and we can get some concrete news on Bond.  At this point I do not even care who plays 007!

Funny thing is, years down the road, everyone's going to look back fondly on the speculation frenzy leading up to the production of CR.

[zencat]

This is simply insane.  Every single day I log in to CBN hoping I see the headline of the new Bond and instead get pulled in 100 different directions.  It is impossible to believe anything at this point, even from "reliable" sources.  I hope this all comes to an end soon and we can get some concrete news on Bond.  At this point I do not even care who plays 007!

This thread is about a story on Dr. Shatterhand's website, not CBn. We've only pulled you in 99 different directions.

[Righty007]

I wonder why Dr. Shatterhand hasn't posted in this thread yet? Is he keeping a low profile until the announcement so that if he's wrong we can't kill him?

[Loomis]

Talking of multiple rumoured Bond actors in the same film, how about teaming Craig and Owen in a big screen remake of "The Sweeney", or something similar in which they played hard-as-nails, politically incorrect London cops spouting classic lines? Not quite sure it would work in the Ian Blair era - might have to be a period piece. Still, there's potential for a LETHAL WEAPON-meets-LAYER CAKE-type franchise with those two, I reckon.

[Forever007]

Didn't mean to go off topic guys. Just frustrated as hell over not knowing what to believe anymore. I'm looking forward to when we have real news.

[zencat]

Hmmm, it just occurred to me. Wasn't the tagline of the '67 film: "Casino Royale is Too Much For One James Bond!"?

Maybe this movie really is a "remake" after all?

For the record, I dig our friend Dr. Shatterhand and I think he has a great website, but I don't buy this "two Bond" theroy. It's just too hacky.

[Frostyak]

While the idea sounds kind of cool and Cavill is my favorite choice (out of the speculated runners), I just want a Brosnan CR, not a Brosnan/fillintheblank CR. Cast Brosnan, and in the meantime have Cavill star in a semi-big Sony film and see how American audiences react to him leading a major U.S. Hollywood production. If he does good and Eon stil wants him, he will be some years older by the time they roll on Bond 22.

The next few weeks should be interesting in any event.

- Chris

Edited by Frostyak, 30 September 2005 - 07:03 PM.

[ACE]

Think it's safe to say Dr Shatterhand was wrong. Ill-informed, misjudged and wrong. The site has mysteriously gone down too.

[Genrewriter]

That's odd. Either it's a standard server problem, or....

*cue X-Files music*

Maybe he found out more than he should have.

Quick, we need a tall guy with very little personality and a short redhead to investigate, pronto!

Ahem, sorry. I just got in from work less than an hour ago, I'm hopped up on caffeine and tired.

[Qwerty]

Probably nothing more than a fun little joke.

[Jim]

As speculation season on Bond 25 appears to be limping into gear, time to reflect on the value of speculation.

 

Why I've picked this thread rather than the other half million that were doing the rounds at the time I don't know but... this thread is magnificent in a read-it-whilst-squinting way.

[Dustin]

Oh, wasn't aware what vintage cans of worms we stock in our cellar. I really didn't remember this one...

[SecretAgentFan]

How history puts everything in perspective...

[DaveBond21]

I do remember someone on here announcing just before Daniel Craig hurtled down the Thames in his life jacket...

 

"I still firmly believe it will be Brosnan!"

 

:-)

[Dustin]

I think that was actually more than just one.

[stromberg]

Being a CBn staffer wasn't all fun at the time. There were people with weird conspiracy theories, claiming that CBn made up the whole "Brosnan out" story in order to prepare the grounds for Brosnan getting fired for real. There were times when I did think twice before logging in to the forums, unwilling to read through the piles of dung that were heaped upon us. Little did we know that it would all become far worse after Craig was announced...

 

Little tidbit form those days: about a day or two before the announcement, we had unofficial confirmations from various sources that it would be Craig. Alas, less than 12 hours before it happened, one of our major sources send us a message which was meant to be a Craig confirmation from his side, but which was worded a bit unfortunate. We suddenly were in doubt for an hour or two and thought we'd end up with tons of egg on our faces and see an announcement for the fifth Brosnan Bond the next morning... 

[Dustin]

Crazy days indeed. The entire Hiddleston craze of last year was nothing compared to the run up to CASINO ROYALE's production, with the yellow press adding a can of fuel a day about speedboats and gear shifts and whatnot.

Well, we'll see what they make of BOND 25...