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[Michigansoftball#1]

To answer your last point--he used to date Kate Moss.

I would keep quiet about that if you are trying to use it in Craigs favour ... given her recent track record of quirky,off beat boyfriends ie Jefferson Hack and Pete Doherty

Yes...I don't find the Kate Moss argument particularly impressive considering how anorexic she looks.

[Loomis]

I am so against Craig as Bond that I would honestly prefer Ewan Stewart as Bond. I'm not knocking anyone's opinion of Craig, I just think he is wrong based on looks. James Bond...the man every woman wants to be with and the man everybody wants to be. If Danial Craig is Bond, then I don't want to be James Bond anymore. Even Dougray Scot has more of the Bond looks than Craig as far as I'm concerned. I say that if Eon decide to go with an unconventional-looking actor to play Bond, then they should go with Paul Bettany.

I'm not sure that Bettany has sufficient menace/toughness, although I may be wrong.

It must be a difficult call with Craig. I think there are three things an actor needs for Bond (when playing Bond, I mean, so I'm leaving out things like being able to give good chatshow interviews): acting ability, screen presence and looks. As you point out, Craig's looks are frankly sub-par. Agreed with you on that one. But his acting and presence are just so good as to be off the charts, IMO. So if you have a "Bond candidate" who delivers two of those three things to an absolutely stunning degree, but drops the ball quite horrendously on the third thing, what do you do?

[Spoon]

Don't like Craig... I don't think he is a "movie Bond" for the reason discussed above.

But more importantly...

Cbn in it latest Podcast gives the exclusive tidbit that Daniel Craig could very well be back big time as a Bond contender.

What is the source for this information?

[Loomis]

Don't like Craig... I don't think he is a "movie Bond" for the reason discussed above.

But more importantly...

Cbn in it latest Podcast gives the exclusive tidbit that Daniel Craig could very well be back big time as a Bond contender.

What is the source for this information?

And why can't it be on the CBn main page?

[Seannery]

Don't like Craig... I don't think he is a "movie Bond" for the reason discussed above.

But more importantly...

Cbn in it latest Podcast gives the exclusive tidbit that Daniel Craig could very well be back big time as a Bond contender.

What is the source for this information?

From what I gather one of Cbn's own sources BUT you should ask a Mod in the know to verify that.

[H.M.Servant]

I'm all for Craig as Bond. I think he's a very good actor. He gives good performances in the films I've seen him in (Layer Cake, Enduring Love and Mother)

He maybe doesn't look the part as much as some of the other candidates, but he would be a very believable 007 IMO. (something that I can't say of the final 4)

Edited by H.M.Servant, 02 September 2005 - 05:31 PM.

[return of the saint]

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Yes...I don't find the Kate Moss argument particularly impressive considering how anorexic she looks.

I think the 'kate moss' argument simply pertains to the fact that a lot of people are saying the Craig is not good looking. Presumably they mean not good looking enough to convince in the role of a man who has slept with (and could sleep with) any number of the most beautiful women in the world. Now, Kate Moss may not really be one of those women - but quite a lot of people think she is. (Just last week she topped some poll for the greatest super model in the world ever or something).

In fact NOBODY is that good looking that every woman would swoon at the sight of him. But Craig's history shows that he has got a certain something about him that women (including women that consider themselves to be amongst the best looking in the world) find attractive.

I also consider him to have something in him that makes 'men want to be him'. He is cool, looks good with a gun, dates models, I guess he drives a pretty expensive car, likes fine food, probably drinks slightly to excess - he looks like a vodka drinker to me, can handle himself in a fight (but would probably be able to charm his way out of one just as easily) - he just has an air about him [I didn't know he had dated Moss until reading it in this thread - but it certainly didn't surprise me]. I find him to be very Bondian - but in a contempoary way.

But yeah - he won't get the part. By January 2006 Eon probably won't be able to afford him.

[Daltonfan]

Bring him on. I wasn't impressed by the pictures but after Layer Cake, I could see him as Bond.

[Sheena1]

As far as acting is concerned---Craig is a powerful and excellent British actor. I would rather have a light hair James Bond (ie Roger Moore) than Goran V---who I cannot understand what he is saying. I have been watching ER and the accent is horrible.

I wish Clive Owen would be Bond-----yes I know he would rather do other things--I will keep my hopes on the next Bond as Christian Bale.

A girl can hope---can't she.

Sheena

[Loomis]

Of all the contestants (even including Owen), I would say that if a Craig Bond film were put up against the next Bourne film - people would be hard pressed to say which one held the highest degree of cool-factor.

An excellent point. And Bond needs to be cool again. To judge by the Talkbacks on AICN, it would seem that most people think the Bond series has of late been about as horribly uncool as it's possible to get.

Just a thought, this, but there's been a lot of talk (including from Campbell and P&W, if I remember correctly) about bringing realism back to the Bond series with CASINO ROYALE, and there's also been a lot of talk (much of it from yours truly) about Bourne, as well as a lot of talk about Craig's looks.

Now, then, what would people think about pairing Craig's Bond with actresses who look like Franka Potente, in other words women who are certainly very attractive but who nonetheless seem more like, erm, "normal women" than too-scarily-perfect-looking supermodel types?

[Pal]

I am so against Craig as Bond that I would honestly prefer Ewan Stewart as Bond. I'm not knocking anyone's opinion of Craig, I just think he is wrong based on looks. James Bond...the man every woman wants to be with and the man everybody wants to be. If Danial Craig is Bond, then I don't want to be James Bond anymore. Even Dougray Scot has more of the Bond looks than Craig as far as I'm concerned. I say that if Eon decide to go with an unconventional-looking actor to play Bond, then they should go with Paul Bettany.

I'm not sure that Bettany has sufficient menace/toughness, although I may be wrong.

It must be a difficult call with Craig. I think there are three things an actor needs for Bond (when playing Bond, I mean, so I'm leaving out things like being able to give good chatshow interviews): acting ability, screen presence and looks. As you point out, Craig's looks are frankly sub-par. Agreed with you on that one. But his acting and presence are just so good as to be off the charts, IMO. So if you have a "Bond candidate" who delivers two of those three things to an absolutely stunning degree, but drops the ball quite horrendously on the third thing, what do you do?

What would I do? I wouldn't hire him But with your 3 criteria (which I agree with), do you feel the need to add voice/accent into the mix? I don't know much about GV, but I know enough to have an opinion that he has the 3 main criteria but most likely lacks in the accent department. What do you do?

[Michigansoftball#1]

What would I do? I wouldn't hire him But with your 3 criteria (which I agree with), do you feel the need to add voice/accent into the mix? I don't know much about GV, but I know enough to have an opinion that he has the 3 main criteria but most likely lacks in the accent department. What do you do?

Remember that George Lazenby had a thick Australian accent when he was hired.

[Shrublands]

Of all the contestants (even including Owen), I would say that if a Craig Bond film were put up against the next Bourne film - people would be hard pressed to say which one held the highest degree of cool-factor.

An excellent point. And Bond needs to be cool again. To judge by the Talkbacks on AICN, it would seem that most people think the Bond series has of late been about as horribly uncool as it's possible to get.

Just a thought, this, but there's been a lot of talk (including from Campbell and P&W, if I remember correctly) about bringing realism back to the Bond series with CASINO ROYALE, and there's also been a lot of talk (much of it from yours truly) about Bourne, as well as a lot of talk about Craig's looks.

Now, then, what would people think about pairing Craig's Bond with actresses who look like Franka Potente, in other words women who are certainly very attractive but who nonetheless seem more like, erm, "normal women" than too-scarily-perfect-looking supermodel types?

Ironical however,

[Bondesque]

Craig has the cool screen presence and acting chops. His looks are suspect but I would take him over any of the final four. Butler has everything Craig has AND LOOKs and height!

[TortillaFactory]

Remember that George Lazenby had a thick Australian accent when he was hired.

Well, to be fair, Australian is basically a bastardized British. I'm not a language coach, but I can imagine toning down Steve Irwin into Colin Firth more easily than I can imagine teaching a Croatian to lose his accent entirely.

And yet I still favor Goran. Why? Because he looks good, and I'm shallow.

[Seannery]

I am so against Craig as Bond that I would honestly prefer Ewan Stewart as Bond. I'm not knocking anyone's opinion of Craig, I just think he is wrong based on looks. James Bond...the man every woman wants to be with and the man everybody wants to be. If Danial Craig is Bond, then I don't want to be James Bond anymore. Even Dougray Scot has more of the Bond looks than Craig as far as I'm concerned. I say that if Eon decide to go with an unconventional-looking actor to play Bond, then they should go with Paul Bettany.

I'm not sure that Bettany has sufficient menace/toughness, although I may be wrong.

It must be a difficult call with Craig. I think there are three things an actor needs for Bond (when playing Bond, I mean, so I'm leaving out things like being able to give good chatshow interviews): acting ability, screen presence and looks. As you point out, Craig's looks are frankly sub-par. Agreed with you on that one. But his acting and presence are just so good as to be off the charts, IMO. So if you have a "Bond candidate" who delivers two of those three things to an absolutely stunning degree, but drops the ball quite horrendously on the third thing, what do you do?

What would I do? I wouldn't hire him But with your 3 criteria (which I agree with), do you feel the need to add voice/accent into the mix? I don't know much about GV, but I know enough to have an opinion that he has the 3 main criteria but most likely lacks in the accent department. What do you do?

I think Goran lacking in all 3 criteria--even looks since he just looks off as Bond(not quite there at all). As Loomis says at least Craig is tops in presense and acting to compensate. He's not my top pick but he's a relief compared to what else has been prominently discussed recently.

[fatima]

If they are serious about going in a tougher,grittier direction then Daniel Craig is the perfect actor to do it. A lot of the actors mentioned are just Pierce-clones, only not as good, just cheaper. Craig is a real alternative, a brilliant actor with star quality in spadefulls. As for his looks, the only people, in my experience, who seem to have a problem with them are some of the fanboys, all the normal people I know think he looks just fine.

It's interesting reading this thread how much support Craig has gained since his name first came out, when he was almost universally panned.

IMO Craig is going to be a BIG, BIG star, so sign him now before he's lost.

Go Craig Go

[Martin Mystery]

seconded!

MM

Edited by Martin Mystery, 02 September 2005 - 06:18 PM.

[return of the saint]

based on looks who gets the part?



or

[Seannery]

One of the things I noticed about Craig is that he looks better moving on film as opposed to still photos--he's like McQueen in that way. I think it has to do with his strong presence and the energy he gives off.

[return of the saint]

I actually find the opposite is true of Brosnan. He makes a great photograph of James Bond - but when he moves around there can some times be some thing missing.

[Mister Asterix]

Don't like Craig... I don't think he is a "movie Bond" for the reason discussed above.

But more importantly...

Cbn in it latest Podcast gives the exclusive tidbit that Daniel Craig could very well be back big time as a Bond contender.

What is the source for this information?

From what I gather one of Cbn's own sources BUT you should ask a Mod in the know to verify that.

[mra]Yup, one of our sources. We literally got this information minutes before I recorded the podcast when I made some calls to find out if there was any breaking news I should include.

[return of the saint]

lookielikies?



Daniel Craig




Steve McQueen

[fatima]

Unfortunately it doesn't look like Pierce is coming back (and I really do wish that he was), so why not use this time to go with something new and different.

And let's face it Pierce makes just about everybody look like an ugly bug

[return of the saint]

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[Forever007]

Craig would be a very risky choice that would certainly polarize Bond fans. He's a damn good actor that would add spark that Bond hasn't seen in quite a long time, but I fear his looks may scare the casual moviegoer. He would certainly appeal to the core fan base who would evetually accept him, but beyond that he would probably struggle. Brosnan is a pretty sharp looking guy and the comparison will be inevitable. That being said, Craig would have to really kick as Bond to make people forget Brosnan. He probably can do it, but his worn looks mean a new Bond again after a few movies and that is too soon. Clive Owen, Dougray Scott and hell Adrian Paul look younger than Craig who's only 37. I like Craig a lot but there are a lot "ifs" with hime that make him too risky to cast.

[Pal]

I had a little bit of free time so I decided to make a picture of all 5 Bond actors together as well as some of more likely candidates right now and I must say, they all look like they belong there except Craig. I hope this attachment works. It's from a word document and if it doesn't work, how can I post it?

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[XXX]

Yeah, I wonder what had happened to Craig. He seemed like a good choice. Very charismatic, manly, handsome, menacing.
The second best thing since the reboot idea.
Of course some will use that same sentence in reverse

[return of the saint]

They all work except Craig???

Have you seen the picture of Goran? And that guy with the neck as broad as his head? What about the flattop lookalike (the guy from nip-tuck)? or the other fellow that I can't even remember he was so bland?

[spynovelfan]

Sure, he'd be risky. But so would Cavill, Visnjic, O'Lachlan, and they look like they're serious contenders. Purefoy wouldn't be too risky - but he wouldn't be very likely to bring home something spectacular, either. Same with many of the other candidates. Craig has the potential to be a bit of a damp squib, or he could reignite the series. Lots of people who are not Bond fans go to see Bond movies. Lots of them are now pretty bored of them, though. A real, serious, plot-drive, tense thriller with a brilliant actor could create a lot of buzz. 'Have you seen the new Bond film - it's actually really good! I'd almost say it's as good as some of the early Conneries - seriously.' That's much more likely with Craig than with a Gruffudd or a Dougray Scott.

The ideal choice, of course, has always been Owen, who has what Craig has but looks more like Bond. The danger with Craig is he'll make Dalton look like Hugh Grant. But I'd welcome him nonetheless - he's been great in everything I've seen him in. I think the combination of him, CASINO ROYALE and Haggis rewriting could signal a fantastic Bond film. A film like the first act of DIE ANOTHER DAY carried all the way through would be a treat right now.