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#271 zencat

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 08:33 PM

[No, but you just essentially said "I don't know anything, except that you're wrong!" :)

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LOL! I think that pretty much sums up 99.9% percent of all posts on the internet.

#272 Loomis

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 09:36 PM

Hey, zen, as far as you know, are they still going to be making CASINO ROYALE a "gritty" film? Really gritty, I mean, and not just lip service to "back to basics" like, say, FOR YOUR EYES ONLY. Grittier than any Bond film ever?

If so, then I can see Craig and Urban as frontrunners. Otherwise....

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:00 PM

Hey, zen, as far as you know, are they still going to be making CASINO ROYALE a "gritty" film? Really gritty, I mean, and not just lip service to "back to basics" like, say, FOR YOUR EYES ONLY. Grittier than any Bond film ever?

If so, then I can see Craig and Urban as frontrunners. Otherwise....

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It sure seems to me that it's going to be more of a "gritty" Bond. How gritty remains to be seen.

Guys, we are hearing A LOT of rumors today about Craig having the part.

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:05 PM

It sure seems to me that it's going to be more of a "gritty" Bond. How gritty remains to be seen.

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Thanks. I'm expecting - and you know what I'm going to say :) - something more or less as "gritty" as THE BOURNE SUPREMACY (have you seen that film, BTW? What do you think of it?), but certainly nothing grittier than that. I mean, it's Bond, not Tarantino, obviously.

Guys, we are hearing A LOT of rumors today about Craig having the part.

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You mean things that people are telling you privately, I take it, rather than whatever happens to be up on the net right now?

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:07 PM

You mean things that people are telling you privately, I take it, rather than whatever happens to be up on the net right now?

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It's coming in from all channels except, unfortunetly, the ones we trust the most. They're not saying anything. I sort of feel like a lot of people are holding their breath at the moment. I expect Daniel Craig might be one of those people. :)

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:14 PM

You mean things that people are telling you privately, I take it, rather than whatever happens to be up on the net right now?

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It's coming in from all channels except, unfortunetly, the ones we trust the most. They're not saying anything. I sort of feel like a lot of people are holding their breath at the moment. I expect Daniel Craig might be one of those people. :)

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There's certainly been an awful lot of smoke to the Craig fire of late. Kind of feels like the second time around, though, given the phantom announcement of the guy a few months ago (when, for some strange reason, a lot of respected news publications and sites seemed to take that news as genuine). But apart from the eternal "Brosnan to return?" rumours, I don't think we've seen anything comparable to the buzz around Craig. Except perhaps for the buzz around Owen early this year, and we all know how that turned out.

If it is Craig, then I doubt that the news will be kept under wraps for too long. Much easier to conceal someone like O'Lachlan, for the obvious reason that few people have heard of him. But Craig seems to be a major tabloid celebrity, at least here in the UK. Something should leak pretty soon if it's him.

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:16 PM

There's a big difference from the Owen thing. All I ever heard about the Owen thing was that it was pure :). I'm not hearing that about Craig.

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:17 PM

You mean things that people are telling you privately, I take it, rather than whatever happens to be up on the net right now?

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It's coming in from all channels except, unfortunetly, the ones we trust the most. They're not saying anything. I sort of feel like a lot of people are holding their breath at the moment. I expect Daniel Craig might be one of those people. :)

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:19 PM

You know, I actually had a dream last night Craig became Bond (and he looked really young -- and blonde!).

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:20 PM

You know, I actually had a dream last night Craig became Bond (and he looked really young -- and blonde!).

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Did you watch Layer Cake yesterday? :)

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:22 PM

You know, I actually had a dream last night Craig became Bond (and he looked really young -- and blonde!).

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I've been dreaming about a Solex Agitator. :)

Sorry, not funny, but I couldn't resist. :)

Where were we? Oh, yes, Craig. Well, I'm delighted by what you're telling us, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I don't want to get my hopes up too much, as I did months ago with the Owen prattle. One thing's for sure: if Craig is Bond, then no one will ever again be able to say that Eon doesn't take risks.

If he's Bond.... wow.

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:27 PM

Well, if Craig is the new man, okay. It would be pushing it for him to look 28. I would prefer him to be cast than a younger actor. As with all current rumours and so forth, as of today, I am officially doubting the Brosnan return bit from a few days ago. Go, Craig!

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:30 PM

Check out the latest Stax report - doesn't seem to be any major new news*, but it's pretty interesting nonetheless, especially given our Craig discussions. And note the dark hair on Dan!

http://filmforce.ign...1/651501p1.html

*Apart from maybe: "LDJW Films reports oft-rumored contender Daniel Craig has been named the sixth 007 ... IGN FilmForce has also heard from reliable sources that Craig is the man for the job but have not been able to confirm that."

Interesting.

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:32 PM

---removed because Loomis is faster than me :) --

Edited by K1Bond007, 16 September 2005 - 10:33 PM.


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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:33 PM

I wonder how the public would react if Craig were cast. I imagine there'd be some shock, but apart from that, I can't say. Though I can't say Craig is my favorite candidate (I'd definitely prefer O'Lachlan), I wouldn't mind him being cast. I'd definitely prefer him to pug-nosed Karl Urban.

Still, deep down, I have a feeling this is all just so much sound and fury. I think if EON had wanted Craig, they wouldn't have objected to Sony's decision a few months ago. I don't know why, but I can't imagine Craig actually being cast, knowing what I know about the producers (which, admittedly, isn't much). I don't mean that it would damage the franchise or result in a bad film. I just can't see it happening. If he does get the part, I sure hope the producers play to his strengths. I want to see some hard-core Brit grit Fleming action. I can tell just from looking at him that Craig would fall totally flat in a Moore-esque romp.

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:39 PM

I have to say, with dark hair, Craig does look somewhat Hoagyish. Yeah, I'd be pleased to see him cast. Not my first choice, but if that's the way things are...

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:39 PM

I wonder how the public would react if Craig were cast. I imagine there'd be some shock, but apart from that, I can't say. Though I can't say Craig is my favorite candidate (I'd definitely prefer O'Lachlan), I wouldn't mind him being cast...

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:41 PM

If Craig gets the role then I am going to feel just like I did when I was 10 years old and got underwear for Christmas. :)

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:42 PM

I wonder how the public would react if Craig were cast. I imagine there'd be some shock, but apart from that, I can't say. Though I can't say Craig is my favorite candidate (I'd definitely prefer O'Lachlan), I wouldn't mind him being cast. I'd definitely prefer him to pug-nosed Karl Urban.

Still, deep down, I have a feeling this is all just so much sound and fury. I think if EON had wanted Craig, they wouldn't have objected to Sony's decision a few months ago. I don't know why, but I can't imagine Craig actually being cast, knowing what I know about the producers (which, admittedly, isn't much). I don't mean that it would damage the franchise or result in a bad film. I just can't see it happening. If he does get the part, I sure hope the producers play to his strengths. I want to see some hard-core Brit grit Fleming action. I can tell just from looking at him that Craig would fall totally flat in a Moore-esque romp.

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Agreed with every word. And Craig would seem a pretty awkward fit for the Haggis reboot with a 28-year-old Bond. Never mind if that "28" could actually end up meaning anywhere from 25 to 35 - Craig looks considerably older than his 37 years. In some photos he could pass for a 50-something. And why would they hire him over, say, O'Lachlan? It's not as though Craig - famous and fashionable though he is - is a guaranteed box office draw, and he'd also be easily the most controversial Bond of all time, unlikely to want to stick around for too many films, and presumably a relatively expensive choice.

Something's happening with Craig and Bond, that much is clear. But I think he'll go down in Bond history as a Sam Neill.

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:46 PM

I wonder how the public would react if Craig were cast. I imagine there'd be some shock, but apart from that, I can't say.

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I think most people won't get it. They'll hear Daniel Craig, they'll look him up and see maybe two movies he's been in that they're aware of - one for certain will be Road to Perdition in which case they'll begin to claim the imminent death of Bond. Then Munich will be released and they'll still be like "WTF". :) Heh.. it's going to be fun. Good news for the producers of Layer Cake though. Rentals and sales will probably skyrocket.

I have no problem with Craig really. I'm just telling you what I forsee here.

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:47 PM

[quote name='Mister Asterix' date='16 September 2005 - 22:39'][quote name='Pussfeller' date='16 September 2005 - 17:33']I wonder how the public would react if Craig were cast. I imagine there'd be some shock, but apart from that, I can't say. Though I can't say Craig is my favorite candidate (I'd definitely prefer O'Lachlan), I wouldn't mind him being cast...

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:49 PM

[quote name='Loomis' date='16 September 2005 - 17:47'][quote name='Mister Asterix' date='16 September 2005 - 22:39'][quote name='Pussfeller' date='16 September 2005 - 17:33']I wonder how the public would react if Craig were cast. I imagine there'd be some shock, but apart from that, I can't say. Though I can't say Craig is my favorite candidate (I'd definitely prefer O'Lachlan), I wouldn't mind him being cast...

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:53 PM

This whole day has been rather confusing. In the morning, I found out about Haggis' announcement and I was elated. Finally the "Broz is back!" camp was silent. Now suddenly there's a flurry of Craig rumours, most of them shaky (that filmforce article mentions McMahon as their first choice, which I absolutely refuse to believe). So here's my skeptical assessment:

Craig was the fave of Sony and possibly Babs, but MGW objected. So Babs called Craig back a few weeks ago for another round of screentests, in a final bid to convince her brother. They agree that they aren't going to cast Craig, and decide instead on a younger actor. They tell Haggis. Meanwhile, some low-ranking EON person assumes that Craig has been cast and plants the seed. By the time Haggis has made his revelation, the Craig rumour has picked up steam and everybody is telling everyone else.

This is just a huge guess, but I think it much more likely that anonymous Internet sources would get it wrong than that Haggis, who's working closely with the producers, would get it wrong at about the same time. They seem pretty sure about this "28" thing, and Craig ain't no 28 year-old.

I just don't know. Everything is conflicting. The sources say Craig, but Haggis' statement points to O'Lachlan or some other young unknown. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 11:02 PM

[quote name='Mister Asterix' date='16 September 2005 - 22:49'][quote name='Loomis' date='16 September 2005 - 17:47'][quote name='Mister Asterix' date='16 September 2005 - 22:39'][quote name='Pussfeller' date='16 September 2005 - 17:33']I wonder how the public would react if Craig were cast. I imagine there'd be some shock, but apart from that, I can't say. Though I can't say Craig is my favorite candidate (I'd definitely prefer O'Lachlan), I wouldn't mind him being cast...

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 11:05 PM

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 11:05 PM

That's another big reason I expect Craig will not be cast. EON is being very daring here. I don't imagine they'll be any more daring than they have to be. To cast a guy like Daniel Craig... in a reboot... with no Q or gadgets... I think they'll compromise with their choice of Bond.

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 11:05 PM

This whole day has been rather confusing. In the morning, I found out about Haggis' announcement and I was elated. Finally the "Broz is back!" camp was silent. Now suddenly there's a flurry of Craig rumours, most of them shaky (that filmforce article mentions McMahon as their first choice, which I absolutely refuse to believe). So here's my skeptical assessment:

Craig was the fave of Sony and possibly Babs, but MGW objected. So Babs called Craig back a few weeks ago for another round of screentests, in a final bid to convince her brother. They agree that they aren't going to cast Craig, and decide instead on a younger actor. They tell Haggis. Meanwhile, some low-ranking EON person assumes that Craig has been cast and plants the seed. By the time Haggis has made his revelation, the Craig rumour has picked up steam and everybody is telling everyone else.

This is just a huge guess, but I think it much more likely that anonymous Internet sources would get it wrong than that Haggis, who's working closely with the producers, would get it wrong at about the same time. They seem pretty sure about this "28" thing, and Craig ain't no 28 year-old.

I just don't know. Everything is conflicting. The sources say Craig, but Haggis' statement points to O'Lachlan or some other young unknown. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 11:08 PM

That's a distinct possibility, Mr. Asterix.

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 11:35 PM

That actually doesn't make sense since there is no MGM anymore. Sony owns them now so Sony chief Amy Pascal, along with Eon, has final say. MGM chief McGuirk (I forget how to spell his name) probably has a say but MGM belongs to Sony now so they're not in a position to tell anyone what to do on this, I believe.

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 11:37 PM

That actually doesn't make sense since there is no MGM anymore. Sony owns them now so Sony chief Amy Pascal, along with Eon, has final say. MGM chief McGuirk (I forget how to spell his name) probably has a say but MGM belongs to Sony now so they're not in a position to tell anyone what to do on this, I believe.

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