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#61 License To Kill

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Posted 19 August 2004 - 01:10 AM

I saw AVP today. What an absolutely atrocious film and an insult to both franchises. Ugh. An absolute trainwreck of a movie with worthless characters, a terrible plot line, and horrible action. What they do with the Aliens and Predators is totally inexcusable. Worst film I've seen in a good long while.

I agree. I'm a "Predator" fan was disgusted and offended by the proceedings. A terrible film. The plot was stupid, the main characters were really used as sacrificial limbs instead of real people, and the film looked like it was made for 12-year olds. I didn't have high expectations for it once i realized the movie was rated PG-13. :)

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The one scene that embarrased and tuned me out for the rest of the movie was when Sanaa Lathan, the main guide, teamed up with the Predator to kill off the aliens. Predator, friendly? As a good guy? From that point on I knew the Predator wasn't frightening all anymore.

A disgrace to both franchises. Notice that FOX didn't give a screen test to the critics before the film opened? This film should be burned...

When Predator and her were running into the screen like with the fire behind them, it was so funny! I thought of that scene in Batman and Robin where the dynamic duo are running at the screen with the theme playing! So campy and cheesy!

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Posted 19 August 2004 - 09:43 AM

I love the Alien franchise and this movie doesn't deserve to be part of the series. It was worse than I thought possible. To clarify an earlier statement, the director is Paul W.S. Anderson, not Paul Thomas Anderson....there's a world of difference. I thought the girl and the Predator were going to make out. Just stupid, stupid, stupid and more importanly just quite boring. A lot of poorly done setup for a payoff that had no importance cause I didn't care for the characters, nor did I even know their names since they die real quick. This new chick's no Ripley.

Let me add I also like Raise the Titanic. Best Dirk Pitt movie ever.

#63 Blofeld's Cat

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Posted 21 August 2004 - 11:34 AM

I wonder how closely Canon looked at the movie's AVP logo? :)

I was driving through town this morning and came across this sign. A quick seach on the net reveals that Canon make an NP range of photocopiers.
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#64 Roebuck

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Posted 21 August 2004 - 11:59 AM

I think the extended edition could be better. Maybe we can see then:

More gore and a R rating
Better insight in the characters
And some more

There's an interview with Anderson at Bloody-Disgusting.com in which he says Fox only told him of their decision to edit the film for a PG-13 classification three weeks before it was due for release. The R-rated version won't just have more blood and violence but will include a lost sub plot and extra effects footage that wasn't completed in time.

Not trying to make excuses for the guy, but doesn't sixty-five million dollars sound like a miserly budget for a modern day science fiction/action movie? :)

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Posted 21 August 2004 - 12:44 PM

Sounds a bit like what happened to David Fincher's Alien 3, although most of his problems was the last of a propper shooting script.

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Posted 21 August 2004 - 01:17 PM

Yes, the scene with the Alien skull is in P2. As a lover/collector of both franchies, I look forward to the new film. It does not open in Europe until October, but I read that it is doing much better than expected, which leads the way (more than likely) to a continuation of both franchieses.

#67 Roebuck

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Posted 21 August 2004 - 03:03 PM

It does not open in Europe until October, but I read that it is doing much better than expected, which leads the way (more than likely) to a continuation of both franchieses.

Well it's broken the fifty million mark in the US . While AVP is hardly a runaway success, It doesn't look like the studio are going to suffer a bloody nose over this.

Actually, after all the snide jibes Sigourney Weaver has made regarding the film, I'd love to see it out-perform 'The Village'. Long shot, but it might just happen.

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Posted 04 September 2004 - 05:07 PM

I just saw AVP. Well, as a huge Predator fan I was quite disappointed. They couldn

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Posted 04 September 2004 - 09:58 PM

Well, this film sounds like a load of toro. Rent the DVD for curioso value I suspect, but that's it.

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Posted 05 September 2004 - 03:09 AM

Well, this film sounds like a load of toro. Rent the DVD for curioso value I suspect, but that's it.

Ditto.

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Posted 05 September 2004 - 03:25 AM

Well, this film sounds like a load of toro. Rent the DVD for curioso value I suspect, but that's it.

I think so too.

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Posted 05 September 2004 - 03:42 AM

I've heard that -

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The Queen Alien uses a shield and spear!!?!?!?!? Someone tell me this isn't true!! :)
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ARGH.

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Posted 05 September 2004 - 03:58 AM

My friend told me that Paul WS Anderson just had a press conference regarding the film (not sure if it was the same thing Roebuck posted about above), and that he was very unhappy the way the film turned out. Apparently on the DVD release, there's an entire hour of new footage. Crikey.

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Posted 05 September 2004 - 04:04 AM

"The way it turned out"?

I assume he means box-office wise. As director he wouldv'e been involved closely in the editing process so he would know how the movie turned out length wise. He was hoping his movie to be 160 minutes long!?


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Posted 05 September 2004 - 04:14 AM

No, I think he meant in regards to the fact that Fox made it PG-13 instead of an intended R rating. Like it's been said, Fox told him to make it PG-13 only three weeks before release. Which is why there was no big premiere; Anderson was editing like mad trying to make Fox happy with it.

Hey, I'd be pretty ticked off, too, if I was told to make my film into a PG-13 film when all of the past films from both franchises were rated R, and being told to do so only three weeks before it's release, no less.

And yes, apparently he did want it to be over two hours long. :)

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 02:42 AM

I see what you mean now. Well, it just makes it that much more enticing to buy the DVD now. :)