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#1 rubixcub

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Posted 24 January 2002 - 06:34 AM

Well, I searched and searched but couldn't find the original thread for our ideas about who would make a good Bond villain.

I remember the suggestions of the following:

Jeremy Irons: Oscar-winning British actor noted for villain roles; has loads of class, a voice which connotates sinister intelligence, and bears slight resemblance to Boris Karloff, a great choice IMO; played villain in "Die Hard with a Vengeance" (brother of Rickman's character)

Alan Rickman: British actor noted for mostly villain roles; his omimous looks and snide voice make him a good choice; played villain in the original "Die Hard"

Joaquin Phoenix: Oscar nominee for his performance as the devious, ambitious and insecure emperor Commodus in "Gladiator" last year. I personally didn't think much of his performance, so I'd need to see him in something else before making up my mind.

Jim Broadbent (my suggestion): character actor whose films include "Bullets Over Broadway", "Richard III", "The Borrowers", "The Avengers", "Little Voice", a much-awarded starring role in "Topsy-Turvy" and this year alone "Bridget Jones's Diary", "Moulin Rouge" and "Iris". He looks to be a certain Oscar nominee for "Iris", quite possibly the winner (I'm currently predicting he'll win), and while I've never seen him play a villain I know he's versatille enough to do so and theatrical enough to play a Bond villain at that.

Ian McKellen (can't remember if anyone suggested him before or not): classically trained British theater actor; Oscar nominee for "Gods and Monsters" in 1998; he's enjoyed great popularity of late playing Magneto in "X-Men" (co-starring former Bond girl Famke Janssen and Bond girl to be Halle Berry, not to mention once-rumored Bond villain Patrick Stewart and noted 007 candidate Hugh Jackman) and Gandalf in "Lord of the Rings" (also starring Bond villains Sean Bean and Christopher Lee). So the connections are there. With his receding gray hair and baggy blue eyes he bears a little resemblance to Bond villain Curt Jurgens, though he'd be much more interesting and dynamic onscreen than Jurgens. One of my favorites here.

Oh, and one more thing: if they ever do "Casino Royale" (maybe for the next guy?), I think they should finally get Anthony Hopkins as the villain. They offered him the villain in GE and TND, and he was interested, but eventually decided not to do it. I think it would be harder for him to turn down the role of Le Chiffre, James Bond's ORIGINAL ADVERSARY.

Any more suggestions?

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#2 Mourning Becomes Electra

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Posted 07 May 2002 - 05:39 AM

Max Zorin (02 May, 2002 01:40 a.m.):
Robin Williams - Sure, laugh all you want...but have you seen the previews for Insomnia yet?  Offbeat casting is usually the best casting.


Only if Pierce gets to kill him with a piece of fruit. ;-)

Morgan Freeman - Suave, handsome and articulate, Freeman could easily pull off the older, pampered Bond villain with his usual class and style.


Oh this is a STUPENDOUS idea. I love this idea. Morgan can supply the gravitas that's been missing in recent Bond villians, strength and power emanate from this man. Not only does he have class and elegance if anyone has seen his earlier work he can be scary and threatening as heck!

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Posted 14 March 2002 - 10:17 AM

Hmm... Robert Patrick...

PLOT FOR BOND 22:

The year is 2029. The machines ruling the planet send a T-1000 (Robert Patrick) back in time to 2005 to eliminate the father of the leader of the resistance, James Bond. His son, however, sends a T-800 (Arnold Schwarzenegger) back to intercept the T-1000 and protect Bond at all costs. Can Bond avoid the destructive plans of the unstoppable T-1000 and The Union?

That won't work either. I think I've stumbled on the plot for Terminator 4. :>

What we want is an enemy with charisma, and is pure evil with a cold blooded heart. Someone like me, perhaps!

Think of someone like Liquid Snake or Revolver Ocelot from Metal Gear Solid.

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Posted 14 March 2002 - 02:09 PM

Another actor I would like to see as villain is Robert Duvall.

And, to cross over the Bondgirls thread, my top candidates for a female villain:

- Sharon Stone
- Isabella Rosselini
- Theresa Russell
- Sean Young

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Posted 15 March 2002 - 06:15 PM

I would like to see Blofeld return, and Patrick Stewart play him, complete with scar, Polish accent, and white cat.

What would be really cool is if Blofeld was impersonating someone, and we didn't know it yet, however all of a sudden we'd see a white cat. That would be startling. :)

In fact, if and when he returns, he should be in the final 2 or 3 Bond movies, and perhaps in the final movie they can kill each other.

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Posted 07 March 2002 - 03:27 AM

What about Michael Douglas?

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Posted 09 May 2002 - 08:57 AM

Al Pacino, wasn't he the guy in Devil's Advocate?

He does good evil roles. In devil's Advocate, he was over the top, and charming, and vile.

A classic Bond villain revisited.

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Posted 07 March 2002 - 12:13 PM

PLOT FOR BOND 21:

Falco has employed an ageing man (Michael Douglas) and his ultra young wife (Catherine Zeta-Jones) to infiltrate MI6 with the help of Alan Rickman as the typical over the top villain (a la Die Hard). They destroy MI6, Bond being the only survivor. Bond then recruits the help of Dr Who (Tom Baker), who uses his TARDIS to travel back in time. Bond then contacts the past version of himself (also played by Pierce Brosnan) and they both foil the plans of the Union. Then, Patrick Stuart arrives as Blofeld through the TARDIS' time warp thing. He and the two Bonds fight, where he is defeated, but returns in Bond 22 as the leader of The Union.

I think I've been smoking too much crack. rm2 007

Villains should not be Tom Baker, Alan Rickman, Douglas, and defineltly NOT ZETA JONES!!!

I wouldn't mind seeing Baron Samedi making a welcome return, perhaps played by WILL SMITH (!)
I can imagine the scene now.

Bond bumps into Baron Samedi.
SAMEDI: Hahahahahahha! You'd better watch ya :), boy!

On second thoughts, it wouldn't work.

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Posted 07 March 2002 - 04:34 PM

The Mole (07 Mar, 2002 12:13 p.m.):
PLOT FOR BOND 21:

Falco has employed an ageing man (Michael Douglas) and his ultra young wife (Catherine Zeta-Jones) to infiltrate MI6 with the help of Alan Rickman as the typical over the top villain (a la Die Hard). They destroy MI6, Bond being the only survivor. Bond then recruits the help of Dr Who (Tom Baker), who uses his TARDIS to travel back in time. Bond then contacts the past version of himself (also played by Pierce Brosnan) and they both foil the plans of the Union. Then, Patrick Stuart arrives as Blofeld through the TARDIS' time warp thing. He and the two Bonds fight, where he is defeated, but returns in Bond 22 as the leader of The Union.

I think I've been smoking too much crack. rm2 007

Villains should not be Tom Baker, Alan Rickman, Douglas, and defineltly NOT ZETA JONES!!!

I wouldn't mind seeing Baron Samedi making a welcome return, perhaps played by WILL SMITH (!)
I can imagine the scene now.

Bond bumps into Baron Samedi.
SAMEDI: Hahahahahahha! You'd better watch ya :), boy!

On second thoughts, it wouldn't work.


If that time travel thing is an allusion to a post from me some time ago, that was only a joke! (Although maybe not the best) I also think that the suggestion of Michael Douglas is a bit different to the ones of Patrick Stewart, Alan Rickman or Robert de Niro. All these actors have already had classic villain roles. But not Douglas, though he has a lot of charisma. I think it

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Posted 15 March 2002 - 09:03 PM

Blofeld aint coming back for atleast 10 years when all the Dr. Evil **** has settled. In other words, people need to forget about Dr. Evil for Blofeld to be taken serious.


I can see a new crossover now:

James Bond takes down an escaped cannibal serial killed in "Hannibal Meets Bond".

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Posted 09 May 2002 - 11:47 PM

Max Zorin (02 May, 2002 01:40 a.m.):
Kevin Spacey -  Could be quietly menacing.  I would KILL to see him as Blofeld.


In view of the persistent stories about the talented Mr Spacey's personal preferences, it was suggested on another site that he could be the first Bond villain to try to take over the world from his headquarters inside a giant closet.

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Posted 29 March 2002 - 08:46 PM

I for one think that for the bond villain, they should cast a name actor that has played a villain of some sort before, but hasn't been typecasted as one. Here some of the actors that I think should be a bond villain:Dennis Hopper (was brilliant in Speed, and has the experience, his first role was as some sort of a villain as Goon in "Rebel without a cause" in 1955), Willem Dafoe(even if he doesn't play a villain, he should be in a bond film), Tom berenger, Gary Busey, you could even go as far as casting Michael Caine or Danny glover( who would be the first black villain since Yaphet Kotto in LALD). For henchmen, basically you just need either a gigantic super fit strongman, with a made up name like Crusher, or a really hot russian woman with a surreal way of rubbing out people.

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Posted 09 May 2002 - 11:50 PM

Mourning Becomes Electra (07 May, 2002 06:39 a.m.):



Morgan Freeman - Suave, handsome and articulate, Freeman could easily pull off the older, pampered Bond villain with his usual class and style.


Oh this is a STUPENDOUS idea. I love this idea. Morgan can supply the gravitas that's been missing in recent Bond villians, strength and power emanate from this man. Not only does he have class and elegance if anyone has seen his earlier work he can be scary and threatening as heck!


I second Electra's comments. This is an inspired idea. What's more he positively exudes intelligence. There would constantly be that fear that he was several steps ahead of Bond.

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Posted 16 March 2002 - 12:59 AM

I just wonder whether the white persian cat could come back alone, and end up in the arms of another villain as an in joke.

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Posted 10 May 2002 - 09:03 PM

I'll just say Morgan Freeman, Anthony Hopkins and the guy who played Capt. Picard in Star Trek:the next generation(I know his name, its just escaped me) :)

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Posted 11 May 2002 - 07:11 AM

Carver (10 May, 2002 10:03 p.m.):
I'll just say Morgan Freeman, Anthony Hopkins and the guy who played Capt. Picard in Star Trek:the next generation(I know his name, its just escaped me) :)


That'd be Patrick Stewart.
He's been mentioned so often by fans as a great possible villain, does anyone know whether Eon's ever had talks with him?

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Posted 11 May 2002 - 05:45 PM

I think we need a disgusting evil man who's character's name is reminicent of Kevin McClory. Devon Macdorly? No, that's stupid. Well, I'm sure P&W will beable to make a good villain's name out of McClory.

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Posted 08 March 2002 - 03:18 AM

Blue Eyes (25 Jan, 2002 01:48 a.m.):
I think the main person I'd love to see as a Bond villain would be Bob Hoskins.


that will be interesting if he appears in b21 with pierce returning. brosnan's debut film is bob hoskins gangster film 'long good friday', he had 2 mins screen time and one word 'hi'. the ending scene had pierce pointing a gun at hoskins inside a car.

i would also like to see kevin spacey, robert deniro and jack nicholson.

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Posted 08 March 2002 - 10:22 AM

David Suchet. If you saw him in NCS: Manhint (with Sam Bond) he was prime evil even though he was being a good guy. He is a great actor who could really bring some depth of character to the villian. I think he should take a part in the Bond series soon... if not the villian then he'd make a perfect M - cold, harsh, to the point. Love him!

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Posted 08 March 2002 - 11:55 AM

Evil Doctor Cheese (08 Mar, 2002 10:22 a.m.):
David Suchet. If you saw him in NCS: Manhint (with Sam Bond) he was prime evil even though he was being a good guy. He is a great actor who could really bring some depth of character to the villian. I think he should take a part in the Bond series soon... if not the villian then he'd make a perfect M - cold, harsh, to the point. Love him!

I'll forever think of him as Hercule Poirot from the TV series, but he was sufficiently menacing in Critical Decision.

He'd make a better M than a Bond villain, I think.

Voila! :)

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Posted 17 March 2002 - 10:52 AM

Of course, we now know that the cat was the true master villain all along.

Other arch villain candidates:
Sir Ben Kingsley
Charles Dance
Alfred Molina
Sir Derek Jacobi
Michael Gambon
and Stacey Keach (if we have to have an American)*

Any of these would give powerful performances, and have the right "off-beat" physical qualities.

* This isn't an anti-American sentiment, I just can't picture American villains in Bond. Too prosaic somehow, though Keach would be the exception.

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Posted 02 May 2002 - 04:40 AM

Max Zorin (02 May, 2002 01:40 a.m.):
Kevin Spacey -  Could be quietly menacing.  I would KILL to see him as Blofeld.


No! No more Blofeld! He's dead after being dropped down a friggin' chimeny! Or after being smashed into an oil rig if you prefer to think that the For Your Eyes Only PTS was just 'a bald man with a white cat'.

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Posted 02 May 2002 - 04:38 AM

White Persian (30 Apr, 2002 08:55 a.m.):

General Koskov (30 Apr, 2002 01:45 a.m.):
But you forget Bond did bonk Irma Bunt ...


Boy did this startle me until I read on!


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Get your mind out of the gutter! :)

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Posted 08 March 2002 - 09:04 PM

get someone to play Sir Miles "M" who has been in "hiding" recently. That'd be nice to see old M try to kill new M.

That would go according to the Dial M For M article.

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Posted 02 May 2002 - 12:40 AM

Just to throw out some more possibilities:
(And most of these are A-list actors, which I know many are against.)

John Malkovich - Though he's playing the villain Sauvage in that Rowan Atkinson Bond spoof, he'd be might fine says I.

Kevin Spacey - Could be quietly menacing. I would KILL to see him as Blofeld.

Robin Williams - Sure, laugh all you want...but have you seen the previews for Insomnia yet? Offbeat casting is usually the best casting.

Morgan Freeman - Suave, handsome and articulate, Freeman could easily pull off the older, pampered Bond villain with his usual class and style.

Guy Pearce - A more physical villain, as he's a young'un. But still...

And my number one candidate:

AL PACINO - My favorite actor and great at being sustained (The Devil's Own) or over the top (Dick Tracy) or both (Scarface). He could give us a truly terrifying, over the top, unforgettable villain, says I.

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Posted 01 May 2002 - 03:28 PM

I think i'd like to see John Lithgow play a villain. He is quite tall and can look menacing, and can act!

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Posted 17 March 2002 - 03:58 PM

Doubleshot

An American to play Jimmy Powers. For some reason, I would pick Alec Baldwin. While reading, I picture Mr. Powers like Alec's character in Beetlejuice (glasses and all for some reason).

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Posted 17 March 2002 - 04:06 PM

Anthony Hopkins would play a very evil villain. He would be great for the part. Maybe even Alec Baldwin. Or if Ralph Fieness doesn't become bond he could play a good villain. :)

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Posted 17 March 2002 - 07:47 PM

I'd like to see them use the character of Brokenclaw Lee, probably Gardner's strongest villain. It's unlikely Blofeld will return with Dr. Evil so how about the return of SPECTRE and/or Blofeld's daughter like in For Special Services? I was thinking the other day that perhaps Irma Bunt should come back.

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Posted 17 March 2002 - 11:18 PM

I saw "The Tailor of Panama" a few hours ago on DVD, and I think Geoffrey Rush would be an excellent villain.