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[Peaceful]

I don't care who the villian is played by as long as it's not another British actor. They all seen to be getting type cast into playing villains these days and the heroines by American actresses.

[rubixcub]

Following up on my previous post, I'd like to see Ian McKellen, but let me add if Hugh Jackman is the next Bond, then they should get McKellen in as soon as possible, like for the next one. Pierce vs. Ian... now THERE'S a match-up I'd like to see.

Another guy I'd like to see playing a villain is Irish actor Brendan Gleeson. He played Mickey Abraxis opposite Pierce's Andy Osnard in "The Tailor of Panama" (who could tell from that film that the guy is Irish?) and his Lord Johnson-Johnson in Steven Spielberg's "A.I." (the guy who ran the Flesh Fair) reminded me of a Bond villain, particularly the little speech he makes. He's soon to be seen in two high-profile Miramax releases, "Gangs of New York" this December and "Cold Mountain" next December. He also definitely has the look of a Bond villain. I don't know if he and Brosnan are friends, though it seems likely. I can't decide whether it would be better for him to square of against Brosnan's Bond or wait until the next guy so he'll be older (he's a year younger than Brosnan).

Enough young villains; they won't draw in the younger crowd like EON thinks they will. Older actors can develop followings among the younger generation, like Christopher Lee with his roles in Star Wars and Lord of the Rings and Ian McKellen with roles in Lord of the Rings and X-Men.

Dave

[Tanger]

Originally posted by IrishCrown
We've already had our Christopher Walken baddie in Die Another Day.  Didn't you see him?  He was called Peter Graves.

Huh?
I think you're confused - The DAD baddie is called GUSTAV Graves.
Peter Graves is an actor. He was in the Mission: Impossible Tv series, Airplane I & II and most recently Men In Black II.

[doublenoughtspy]

What I think Bond 21 REALLY needs is a negro villain. I'm a little tired of anglo vs anglo.

Think about it - with 22 movies there has only been 1 black main villain.

MGM has said that Halle Berry brought in more black viewers - wouldn't a villain do the same?

I don't have anyopne specific in mind - but it's not like Yaphet Kotto was a household name at the time either.

[Double-0 Six]

How about Avery Brookes (Sisko in Deep Space Nine)? When he's quiet he can be quite menacing and moody.

I agree its about time we had an older villain. I'd second Jeremy Irons or Anthony Hopkins, although like others I'd like to see a non-English villian in Bond 21. We haven't had a Russian for ages.

[Agent Lee]

Well, if anybody is still interested in another black villian, then I believe we have already seen him in the bond films. It would be Colin Salmon, reprising his role as Charles Robinson. With his knowledge of how MI6 operates, he would be a formidable foe.

After all, we have seen MI6 staff go bad before. Miranda Frost and 006 spring to mind.

Perhaps we could borrow a page from the immensely successful film Spiderman. Robinson could somehow develop a split personality, just like the Green Goblin did. Eventually, his secret would be revealed, and all of MI6 would be ordered to kill him. How, 007 would probably disobey direct orders, and try to save his friend's life.

If done properly, such a story could show real dramatic tension. If done wrong, then such a story could look even more cartoonish than Batman versus Two-Face!

[belvedere]

How about Denzel Washington - he was a bad *** in Training Day! You think that would gross well at the box office?

[ChandlerBing]

Roger Moore. He can sit there in a chair, stroking a pussy cat, and send out his henchmen to bring him the head of James Bond.

[ChandlerBing]

Oh, wait, I just thought of this...it's brilliant. Q will be the villain. No, not that Q. John Delancie can still play the villain, though. He'd be a fun Bond villain, along the lines of Charles Gray, actually.

[jim74454]

I think Patrick Stewart would be good, or maybe Kenneth Brannaugh (not sure on spelling).

[JackChase007]

If you want a black villain, then cast the greatest black actor of all time - SAMUEL L. JACKSON. Sam's one of my favorite actors (he was amazing, to say the least, in SHAFT), and it would be interesting to see him play some sort of action villain.

From what I've heard, this might be difficult, but I would like to see the greatest action villain of all time be a Bond villain - ALAN RICKMAN. Who can beat his portrayal of Hans Gruber in DIE HARD???

[M_Balje]

Originally posted by jim74454
I think Patrick Stewart would be good, or maybe Kenneth Brannaugh (not sure on spelling).

1. Kenneth Branagh
2. he play's Gilderoy Lockhart (For Dutch and Belgium people: Gladinus Smallhart) in Harry Potter and The Chamber of Secrets

I have seen the movie,but of he must play in a bond movie as villian i don't no.

[Rayliottaasbond]

Here are some reccomendations for Bond villains.

Dolph Lundgren
Robert De Niro
Ray Liotta
Edward Norton
Adam Baldwin
Robert Patrick

For a black villain, try this guy for size - Steven Williams

Please let me know what you think of these people as potential Bond villains. Thanks!

[JackChase007]

I just realized this - TCHEKY KARYO!!!

He's the excellent French actor who gave an amazing turn as villain in "Kiss of the Dragon", was the French soldier in "The Patriot", and even portrayed Dimitri Mishkin in GoldenEye. It was a small enough part that people wouldn't notice him (although, he does have such a distinctive voice that people would wonder "Where have I seen this guy before?"). This guy is the most sinister bastard to hit the villain scene. He's got my vote.

[SeanValen00V]

Originally posted by Rayliottaasbond
Here are some reccomendations for Bond villains.

Dolph Lundgren
Robert De Niro
Ray Liotta
Edward Norton
Adam Baldwin
Robert Patrick

For a black villain, try this guy for size - Steven Williams

Please let me know what you think of these people as potential Bond villains. Thanks!

Dolph Lundgren appeared ever so briefy in A View to a Kill, KGB scene.
Add to that, he's actually retired from acting now.



De Niro one of the greatest actors in US, yeah great villian, but you got a name like that, he'll act Pierce off the screen as a villian, if written good, and we want villians written good, De Niro would overshadow other actors in the film.

Ray Liota sounds very good, not a huge mega star, but well known, seems to blend in better.

Edward Norton, great a actor, be good.

Robert Patrick, perhaps not the main villian, but a secondary one.

Adam Baldwin, I would prefer Alec Baldwin, better actor, and could play a mirror image of Bond, Alec looks very much the Amercian Bond, just make him evil, make a great villian like Sanchez but different





These actors are long overdue for a Bond film though:

Alan Ruckman (Die Hard)
Jeremy Irons (Die Hard with a Vegeance, and loads of other great works
Antony Hopkins

All British, all could be great mirror images of Bond.

Jeremy Irons was featured on a fan fiction poster of Win, Lose or Die, looked great on it.

Thinking about it
give the film to Pierce and either Ray Liota or Jeremy Irons, and let them go at it, all have looked cool in suits, dangerous, and Irons very amusing at times.

[Rayliottaasbond]

I'll say again... RAY LIOTTA!!!

[Rayliottaasbond]

Thanx Sean.

Alec Baldwin I think would be great! To be honest, i don't think any of my previous mentioned villain recommendations would make it into a Bond film. Simply because they're not British, and all the principal villains of the Brosnan era have been. Jeremy Irons and Alan Rickman! Very good choices, and ones likely to be selected.

[Rayliottaasbond]

Actually... i'm gonna launch a campaign on this site and hope that you guys follow it and MGM see it. GET RAY LIOTTA INTO BOND 21!! He's not British, but who the hell cares?!

Cheers!

[Rich Douglas]

Ray Liotta portraying Bond? Could never work, he is too much of a gangster character. BUT, he would make a damn fine henchman in Bond 21.

Rich

[Rayliottaasbond]

Rich, you must have taken what i said out of context. I personally would never agree to Ray Liotta AS Bond (even though he's my fave actor). What i meant by "he isn't british" is that all other villains of the Brosnan era have been British and that needed to change.

What i propose for Ray is an American style Bond. Bond's true equal, who can match Bond tit for tat, but with a more dangerous edge.

All the best anyway rich

[Rich Douglas]

oooooooooooooo... i see now... fair enough.

Rich

[SeanValen00V]

Ray Liota could be great as Sanchez-LTK type Bond villian, Dalton and Davi discussed that Sanchez like in Casino Royale, the Bond villian is a mirror image of Bond, in style, but of cource one more good, and one is more evil, and Ray Liota vs Pierce Brosnan would be cool, but thats the dreaming, see what happens.

Looking at Ray Liota towards the 2nd half of Goodfellas, when he's more gangster like, angry, loyal, twisted, perfect Bond bad guy.

[Rayliottaasbond]

To see Liotta's true Bond villain worth. Watch "Turbulence", "Copland" and "Unlawful entry"

[Zero Zero]

I can think of two actors that i'd like to see as villians in Bond.
Alan Rickman, he'd definately give Bond a run for his money,
Joss Ackland, who would in my opinion be a classic villian, more of the mastermind Blofeld style.

[JackChase007]

Another Rickman supporter! Although, I have heard that he's trying to keep away from action movie villains - he reportedly detests being called "Hans Gruber" and wants nothing to do with Die Hard. What a shame.

[kevrichardson]

enough of the younger villian it has just worked this time, the Villian in TWINE was just different.so a young women it had to be. A older bond villian will return the father / son aspect back to Bond films like the Fleming novels, Dr.No, Goldfinger, OHMSS. it gives the film more tension. actor lke Ian McKellan, Patrick Stewart. would bring a certain world weariness to the Part of a major Villian. the rich kid want to rule the world syndrome is boring.

[ref]

Surprising not one mention of a female lead villain TWINE changed that mould. for me the best three female villainesses have been:-
Hudson Leick (callisto in Xena)
Julliane Morris ( Rumina in that awful Sinbad series she was the only reason I watched it)
Jane Badler ( Diana in V)

also bring back SPECTRE I certainly could imagine the first two as Blofelds daughter.If you think logically an organisation of such magnitude with such assets would not dissapear overnight

[Rayliottaasbond]

How about Brian Thompson, the guy who plays the alien bounty hunter in the x-files.

[MicroGlobe One]

LANCE HENRIKSEN. He's a brilliant actor who was discussed as a possible villain for Die Another Day, before the script had been established.

or

DAVID BOWIE. He was first considered for the role of Max Zorin in A View to a Kill and he'd make a fantastic villain (and, on top of that, he could sing one hell of a theme song).

[mkkbb]

I think we should have a European, or foreigner at least. I can't wait until we have another Stromberg, Drax or Largo. They epitomise the Bond villains accents. Have you ever spoeken Villains lines without a russian accent or some weird "Die, Misteur Bund".

Although he's Scottish that is why I liked Robert Carlysle in TWINE. He had a brillaint accent.

Enough of the English villains, and I don't think Americans are great villains. I would welcome back Tchecky Karo (whatever his name is), or if it has to be English then it would have to be Mckellan.

Lance Henriksson would make a good baddie too. I remember him being mentioned for Die Another Day.