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[daman3755]

Interesting. Though, being a fan of the cable network F/X, I'm doubting it. He co-headlines their second biggest hit on the station, "Nip/Tuck" - would be interesting since he is quite a versatile actor, but ehh whatever.

[Xenia]

Originally posted by Moomoo:
MGM know Jackman's fee will shoot up if Helsing is a big hit. That's why they signed him last year. They got in early with a sweet deal. Getting an unknown to star in a $100 million dollar Bond film is a very risky investment. It was done with Lazenby but I doubt MGM would risk it in 2004. Too much at stake. Getting a higher profile actor makes more sense.

If Hugh signed with MGM, there would have been some type of announcement that he signed a picture deal with them. Nary a word anywhere, even if they don't announce the name of the film, something would have been mentioned by now.

If you check out IMDB (Internet Movie Database), Hugh Jackman has no films in production:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0413168/

Kind of odd? Nope.  X-Men 3 has no definite start-date and this leaves Jackman clear to start shooting Bond 21 next summer.

Hugh will be in Australia after The Boy from Oz ends, his wife Deborra Lee will be in a film. As for X3 not having a start date, one has been announced, X3 release date will be May 5, 2006.

Compare Jackman's schedule to Brosnan's:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000112/

Excluding Bond 21, Brosnan has three films in pre-production. So how is he going to fit in time for Bond 21? It looks like he's very busy.

Yes, Pierce is a busy man. The Matador is going into production soon in Mexico, and last I heard Instant Karma was rumored to start this April but with The Rock filming Be Cool right now in LA. It could be at least a couple of months before filming for IK starts. As for filming Bond 21, it can start this fall, with secondary production and filming scenes that doesn't involve Pierce. It has happened before, look how well ST:TWoK did with Richardo Mantalban. Not saying that Bond 21 will be like that, just using it as an example.

I accept that IMDB may be inaccurate but it does suggest  Jackman has the schedule to play Bond.

As you've suggested that Bond 21 won't be until Summer 2006, that would take Hugh out of the running. Avi Arad himself said that X3 will be released in 2006, that would make filming both films X3/X4 for 2005. As X2 took almost 6 months to film, best guess it could take at least 9 months for the upcoming sequels.

Loomis, I agree with your comment about the negative outbursts from Brosnan. Brosnan should not have said the things he said in the way he said them. Very damaging indeed.

Moomoo

Pierce does have a voice, IMHO, what he's been saying isn't condemning at all. Perhaps people should look at what else he had said besides "opaque", etc. He did say some great things of what the direction of Bond 21 should take. Perhaps, those are the words we should be focussing on.

[Dmitri Mishkin]

Seems to me that Brosnan fans are simply in a stubborn state of denial. How could Moomoo possibly have orchestrated all the things that happened after he started posting which chime with what he's claimed all along (such as Madsen's remarks that Broz has been replaced by an Aussie)?

Doesn't mean Moomoo's 100% correct, of course, but it does suggest that he's not, as some would have it, simply a troll who's been making everything up.

With respect to your opinion Loomis, the points "predicted" by Moomoo were not necessarily unpredictable. By that I mean the rumours of Jackman's candidacy for the role existed long before. I would concede that there is a slight coincidence in the MGM marketing director having moved to another job, where the argument seemed to be he was "fired" for "leaking" this information. But that link is tenuous at best. We simply don't know, and generally speaking, the predictions made were not necessarily those of soothsayer variety, simply those banking on good odds to begin with.

Well, if Moomoo had simply been playing the odds, he'd surely have claimed that Jackman would replace Brosnan after BOND 21, not for BOND 21. In the months before the "Brosnan out" stories started to surface, we were all convinced that [A] Brosnan would do BOND 21, and [B] Jackman was the frontrunner, but would make his debut with BOND 22.

And all this has now become much more than a storm in a teacup among hardcore Bond fans. This morning I overheard two 20-something colleagues (who are not Bond geeks or movie geeks, and whom I very much doubt post on or read internet discussion fora) talking about the Bonds (totally unprompted by yours truly). One remarked: "I hear the next one's in trouble. Apparently the script is terrible and they don't know where to go. They don't care about good stories any more, all they want are special effects." The other replied: "I don't like the recent Bond films anyway. I only like Connery and Moore." When I joined in the conversation with "I've read that Pierce Brosnan won't be coming back", they both rolled their eyes and said: "Who cares?"

So it seems that Brosnan's little outbursts are having a detrimental effect. Sure, many of us can't bring ourselves to believe that he's gone, and are gagging for him to return, but then again a far greater number of "normal", "regular" folks don't give a stuff about whether he'll come back or not. Enter Hugh.

Allow me to clarify. By "playing the odds" I meant that Moomoo has made predictions based on existing rumours, hardly confirmed "news" or facts.

There has been nothing to substantiate that any of Moomoo's "orchestrations" as true. Has Mr Jackman been signed, or an another actor? Has there been an announcement that Bond 21 is now due for summer 2006? I'm afraid that tabloid speculations simply aren't convincing enough. Moomoo has been a strong voice with regards to Brosnan and his future with Bond, fair enough. He has shot back at his critics, in turn, for being somewhat naive in their assumptions that Brosnan will return. All I have to say to this is I'm going to rely on facts only, not overcooked speculation. When and if the time comes that an announcement is made to vindicate these rumours, that's fine. It's hard to argue then. But until that happens, really, anything else is highly speculative and imaginative at best.

[Moomoo]

The simple fact is, Hugh Jackman is the next Bond. In the next few months you will know that because Eon will announce it. I cannot state 100% that Bond 21 will be released in summer 2006 but I was told that was the aim.

Put it this way - I am 100% certain Hugh Jackman is the new Bond and I'm about 95% certain Bond 21 is for summer 2006. I say 95% certain because I guess there is a small 5% chance a screenplay can be written by the end of this year and Bond 21 can go into production early next year. I think this is very, very doubtful, but TND started filming in April 1997, or sometime around that date, so Bond 21 could have a rushed schedule.

Regardless of when Bond 21 is filmed and released, one thing is set in stone - Hugh Jackman is the new Bond. It's not imagination, not speculation - it's fact. But if I'm wrong (which I don't think I am) I will post an apology.

Moomoo

[JimmyBond]

Regardless of when Bond 21 is filmed and released, one thing is set in stone - Hugh Jackman is the new Bond. It's not imagination, not speculation - it's fact. But if I'm wrong (which I don't think I am) I will post an apology.

Moomoo

To be perfectly honest man, I think you're dead wrong. Will Pierce be in the next film? There certainly is enough to make me doubt it, but not enough to convince me he's out. There's also not enough here to convince me that Jackman has signed on to the role, it just doesnt make any sense why they havent announced anything yet.

Now I'm open minded, I'd love to believe Jackman is the next Bond, he is my #1 choice after all. But there is simply not enough known at this point for us to know either way.

[DLibrasnow]

I think Brosnan WAS out, but now I believe he is back in....

[daman3755]

Geez, everyone is fighting like cats and dogs in here. Then again, it was a full moon within the past couple of days, so I understand. But moomoo, what exactly is screaming to you that Jackman is the next Bond, intuition or an inside source that we're all unaware of? I mean, as much as I'd love to see Brosnan back for one more (with Quentin Tarantino's "Casino Royale" which SHOULD happen but won't) I'd love to see Jackman in the role. He's a nice young 34 years old and quite the actor. I don't know what to believe anymore, but as far as I'm aware (and others have stated this) X3 and X4 are probably shooting back to back. Bryan Singer even said I believe a month ago he had a great idea and that everything was slowly coming together. Now they COULD recast the role of Wolverine, but that would be criminal. There better be an announcement soon about this mess, though I'm with Tarantino on the whole thing - Bond movies don't need to be big action pieces (come on DAD cost what $120 mil?!) but more around the lines of $40 mil - Kill Bill Vol. 1 was made for about that much and it made a nice profit. But hey, if EON wants to blow money and risk losing it, then fine. They'll only run it into the ground if they aren't careful.

[DLibrasnow]

I am so anxiously awaiting X3 and X4 that I am hoping they are shooting back to back.

[daman3755]

Not sure if I agree with back to back shooting anymore. The idea looked great on paper for The Matrix Trilogy, but it backfired bigtime. (No matter what anyone says, I still love that whole trilogy, even "Revolutions" despite its shortcomings.) As long as they don't release them in the same year (one at Thanksgiving, one in the winter maybe?) then it's feasible but I don't think crowds like getting overdosed anymore. Just a thought. But hey, if they do it, then fine, just as long as the ideas are right.

Oh, right, how does this tie into 007? Why, Hugh of course .

[DLibrasnow]

They mentioned X3 and got me all excited....I am anxiuously awaiting the next X-men movie - I thought X2 was great!

[[dark]]

I think Brosnan WAS out, but now I believe he is back in....

Really? I'm more leaning towards Brosnan being out now than I was before.

Why do you think he's now back in, Darren?

[ChandlerBing]

Pierce is becoming like Michael Corleone. Just when he thinks he's out, they pull him right back in!

[Johnboy007]

I'd rather some English screenwriter(s) helped Tarantino on the screenplay. He is too immersed in American pop culture to be the only screenwriter for the job. Let's face it, QT is about as far removed from Ian Fleming as you can get.

Tom Mankiewicz

Also, is that man that Agent76 posted above, on the Nip Tuck tv show?

Because that guy, to put it plainly, sucks.

[[dark]]

That's the guy, Johnboy.

He also appeared in Charmed for a few seasons.

Name's Julian McMahon.

I haven't seen him act, so I can't really comment.

[rogermoore007]

I cannot state 100% that Bond 21 will be released in summer 2006 but I was told that was the aim.

"told" by who??

[Jmart007]

I just read about this whole thing over at Movies.com. I hope the rumor about Heath Ledger is false, and I definetly hope Brosnan comes back for another. However, I wouldn't mind though if Jackman took over.

Edited by Jmart007, 14 April 2004 - 02:23 AM.

[luciusgore]

Hopefully it is Jackman. My own suspicion is that Brosnan and Quentin Tarantino have talked up making the film, with Tarantino as director. Brosnan agreed to make Bond 21, if Tarantino directed, and knowning full well that Tarantino has offered to direct. The producers are backing off. Hopefully it is Jackman, but aren't these the people who greenlit the concept of an invisible car? So, it's probably Heath Ledger.

Well the only way I know of to fight it is to sign the petition to have both Tarantino and Brosnan do the movie. It would be a great movie, one for the ages:

http://www.petitiono...e.com/bond0408/

[Bond Bug]

possible

[DLibrasnow]

Interesting idea Samurai