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[tuttle300]

And I don't mean the usual technical achievments, such as cinimetography or set design although those are certainly up for grabs.

NO, I’m talking about the awards that give the film- as well as the franchise- a sense of legitimacy?

I keep looking at the trailer and it really sings out that this time out we're dealing with a different Bond film that has come before, especially in the story.

So while I doubt it'll be considered for best film, do you think it stands a chance at best screenplay or even best director? And while it may not even win for best screenplay or director or even the best actor or supporting actor categories… to be even nominated IN these categories this time around would certainly put a feather in the cap of the entire franchise after 50 years
Comments?

[Armand Fancypants]

The James Bond franchise does not need legitimacy from a body who deemed The Artist the Best Picture of 2011.

[JCRendle]

I hope it gets nominations at least. Cinematography, direction and a couple of acting nods.

[Vauxhall]

Best chances for nominations are probably Original Song and Cinematography. I can't see the Academy giving the latter to a Bond film, so I reckon Adele's our best shot.

[MkB]

I'm no Oscar expert, but Bardem should at least be nominated. I guess the Academy with have cold feet regarding a nomination for Daniel Craig, sadly (or he would have got it in CR already).

[Pam Bouvier]

Won't know until the film comes by way, but it would be wonderful to see. Recognition by your peers and colleagues always is welcome and the folks that have kept Bond going (and going so inventively) for so long deserve to have that recognition. Craig and Dench have been briliant in the past, I would like to see each of them take home an Oscar.

if the film (and I have no doubt that it is) is a amazing as we've been hearing, it would be more than fair to see the writers take home an Oscar as well.

[tuttle300]

To Armand While I admit- strictly as a fan of film and not being in the business- that the Acadamy has arguably made a bad decision on occassion, and what business hasn't?- the actual stamp of having an Oscar means additional cash flow at the box office during the critical theatrical run.

In addition to having a place in film history as being a film, out of the the many films each year that get releasd, of some signifance ( The Artist not withstanding) it would be pretty cool to show that the franchise has grown as an entity of legitimacy and has risen above its own history of the Moore era and arguably, the Brosnan era and revisited the roots of the character. That of being an assassin who serves the Queen.

Besides, there are a number of people in the main stream audience that readily dismiss the Bond franchise as a film series of any note despite its history. And an Oscar to that group will add nothing to their opinion. If anything an Oscar will be looked at by the core fans as mark of excellance KInd of like sticking with a favorite football team until it finally wins the Super Bowl

Edited by tuttle300, 29 October 2012 - 12:50 PM.

[marktmurphy]

Best chances for nominations are probably Original Song and Cinematography. I can't see the Academy giving the latter to a Bond film, so I reckon Adele's our best shot.

Yeah, I'd agree with that.

Acting-wise I'd say Bardem would be the best bet, but I doubt that'll happen.

BAFTAs are another matter: I can imagine Craig, Dench and Bardem getting nominated for those, although they've gone more for the pre-empting the Oscars than they used to, so that might not happen.

[thecasinoroyale]

Just because James Bond is associated with a certain audience or genre from previous films and interpretations, from 'Skyfall' I reckon the Academy should seriously look to the achievements made as a feature film. The look, style, narrative, theme song and acting credentials lend the film something as strong as other Oscar winners of the past so I really hope the "brand name" doesn't deter those with the power.

[Scrambled Eggs]

I think Daniel Craig should at least have been nominated as best actor for what he did in Casino Royale. Forest Whitaker won for Last King of Scotland that year and De Caprio was nominated for Blood Diamond - are those performances really that far ahead of what Craig achieved?

The way he reinvented a well worn character, is De Caprio's attempt at a South African accent really that far ahead?

Bond films just don't get those sort of awards. And it shouldnt matter that they don't, to be honest.

[tuttle300]

Bond films just don't get those sort of awards. And it shouldnt matter that they don't, to be honest.

I agree a little
Still.... it would be cool as a long time Bond fan to go to Best Buy in April and get a copy of the BluRay and see the little gold sticker there saying that the film won 2 or 3 Oscars...........

[SecretAgentFan]

I could imagine it getting a best picture nomination, due to the recent regulations that allow for up to 10 films in that category, baiting audience pleasers.

Apart from that, I would love to see DC get a nod. Bardem is a possibility.

But, frankly, unless the new voting system (with online voting, also getting the nominations before the influence of the dreaded Golden Globes) changes things for the better, the Academy Awards are held ransom by too much scheming from the big players, especially Harvey Weinstein who stops at nothing to get votes for his films, even if they are totally undeserving of an award (see THE ARTIST).

[Vauxhall]

BAFTAs are another matter: I can imagine Craig, Dench and Bardem getting nominated for those, although they've gone more for the pre-empting the Oscars than they used to, so that might not happen.

Agreed. Pretty strong chance for BAFTA nominations at the very least for Craig, Bardem, Dench, British Film, Director, Cinematography, Original Screenplay and Production Design.

[Henry-Jones-Sr]

An Academy Award in a major category will never happen for Bond. It's just too late, I think. And if it did, I don't think Skyfall is the one.

Even the songs, almost all of which are world famous, have been well and truly shafted with only two or three getting a nomination.

[DR76]

Why is it important that a Bond film receive major Academy Awards? I don't know if I want to nominate a movie that allows a field agent to become a secretary for Best Picture.

[SecretAgentFan]

It´s not important. It would only be fun to have Bond enter that domain which mostly looked down on this franchise (or other popular genre films) before.

But this thing you have with a field agent becoming a secretary... what´s your problem with it?

[FOX MULDER]

The Oscar's have lost some of their prestige since the mid-90s, and are certainly not the same level of award they were pre-1980s.

If anything, I'd prefer Bond to not win an Oscar. If it does, every Bond film in the future will be aiming for one, which could be detrimental to them IMO.

[thecasinoroyale]

I actually would be happier for Bond to win a BAFTA award for the British film industry to be recognised rather than going up against those in Hollywood where god knows hiow they decide who wins.

It's the pomp of James Bond picking up a gong on home soil I enjoy, wave the flag and all that!

[tdalton]

Bond has little to no chance at any of the major nomination. The only way is if it manages to sneak in the back door of a category like Best Picture since they now allow up to 10 nominees, with perhaps it managing to snag that 10th spot. Aside from that minute possibility, the only chance that exists for SKYFALL are cinematography and (although I think the song is terrible) original song for "Skyfall".

[Conlazmoodalbrocra]

The James Bond franchise does not need legitimacy from a body who deemed The Artist the Best Picture of 2011.

The Artist is a great film, and was a deserved winner in my book.

[Iceskater101]

No I don't think so. The oscar people are pretty picky when it comes to nominating films.

[marktmurphy]

Even the songs, almost all of which are world famous, have been well and truly shafted with only two or three getting a nomination.

Yes, it is an absolute nonsense for an academy that celebrates great achievement in filmmaking to completely miss what John Barry invented with Bond.

[jaguar007]

I doubt the academy would ever nominate an actor for playing James Bond.Partially because it would be like them saying "Daniel Craig is a better Bond than those that came before him, including Sean Connery"

[Invincible1958]

The oscar people are pretty picky when it comes to nominating films.

Who are "The Oscar people"?

They are people like Daniel Craig, Judi Dench and Co.

They are 6.000 actors, directors, cinematographers etc.

It's not like an award, that is given by a small jury sitting around a table.

[Skudor]

Never say never... but not really.

Maybe a long shot at one of the minor ones.

[Henry-Jones-Sr]

Some of them are Daniel Craig, Judi Dench, et al. But most of them are retired industry workers who reside in special showbusiness retirement homes. Every year, the Oscar hopefuls descend on these homes to schmooze for three months in order secure their important vote. These people like 'nice' films.

Unfortunately, to get as far as a nomination you have to campaign hard and spend millions on the 'For your consideration' ads. This is how the Academy Awards work.

I think the reason that Bond has never gotten anywhere at the Oscars is because the Bond producers simply don't play that game. And to score you really have to play the game.

The 'Best Original Song' category is notoriously weak of late, so the fact that Bond songs still don't get nominated tells me that the Broccoli's are having nothing to do with it.

[stromberg]

The 'Best Original Song' category is notoriously weak of late, so the fact that Bond songs still don't get nominated tells me that the Broccoli's are having nothing to do with it.

But then again, it's been a while since we had a Bond song which was Oscar material (maybe YKMN would have been worth a nomination). But I can see Adele getting nominated and eventually winning. Apart from that, maybe one or the other tech category, but I'm clueless about that kind of stuff (costumes?). Maybe Dench (would that be lead role or supporting role?) or Finney (he's been nominated five times but never won. He's 76 now, would be about time).

[Invincible1958]

Maybe Dench (would that be lead role or supporting role?)

Lead or Supporting - that's something, that EON/MGM/SONY has to decide. In whatever category they think, she might have the best chances to get nominated, they would put out "for your consideration ads".

Anthony Hopkins was awarded "Lead Actor" for "Silence of the Lambs", even if he was only 8 minutes in the movie.
And Christoph Waltz was awared "Supporting Actor" for "Inglorious Basterds", but he was one of the leads in that movie.

[marktmurphy]

Unfortunately, to get as far as a nomination you have to campaign hard and spend millions on the 'For your consideration' ads. This is how the Academy Awards work.

I think the reason that Bond has never gotten anywhere at the Oscars is because the Bond producers simply don't play that game. And to score you really have to play the game.

I feel like I have seen a 007 'FYC' ad before, haven't I?

[Iceskater101]

The oscar people are pretty picky when it comes to nominating films.

Who are "The Oscar people"?

They are people like Daniel Craig, Judi Dench and Co.

They are 6.000 actors, directors, cinematographers etc.

It's not like an award, that is given by a small jury sitting around a table.

Okay, I stand by what I said though. They are picky in the way they only nominate period/historical pieces. They have never nominated anything science fiction or fantasy like except Lord of the Rings. I personally thought the last Harry Potter movie could have been nominated especially Alan Rickman. I just don't think James Bond will ever have a chance at getting an oscar.