Lt. Commander
Posted 01 February 2013 - 06:01 AM
Yep, but the playlist article feedback section indicates the new script is done and is going out to actors as we speak. The quality of the script is subjective at best.
Intriguing. Would be interesting to determine how much that respondent really knows.
Lt. Commander
Posted 01 February 2013 - 09:53 AM
So Soderbergh wanted Michael Fassbender as Solo ! If you saw Soderbergh's appalling movie Haywire, then you wouldn't necessarily lose sleep over this once great director not crapping on UNCLE. However, Fassbender was, not surprisingly superb as a ruthless, deadly agent.
With Fassbender as his muse, instead of a cage-fighter-turned-actress (or what she was in Haywire) it may have been a real treat. We've seen Fassbinder turn on the manipulative charm in the amazing cellar bar scene in Inglorious Barstards, so the chemistry with his somber, quiet but deadly partner Illya Kuryakin may have worked. For Illya Kuryakin i'd loved to have seen Ryan Gosling.
Sodenbergh seems to have allowed the dull and duller Oceans films, which i once read him admitted to being really just an excuse to have a laugh/holiday with his buddies (Clooney, Damon etc) to really negate his once awesome directorial powers (Out of Sight, Traffic, Solaris....) to the nadir of the awful Haywire. But as much as Haywire illustrated a director totally losing the plot, Contagion then showed the beginning of a return to form. So in truth his cancelled reunion with Contagion writer Scott Z. Burns is a shame.
And now we're faced with Guy Ritchie's UNCLE.... When it comes to Guy Ritchie movies, the good and the bad, the actors are never the star. Ritchie always does his best to grab the limelight with his arsenal of camera and edit gimmicks which he still seems more concerned with than story and character. So i can understand good actors turning down his UNCLE if the part is not every bit as iconic as Sherlock Holmes and lets face it, few characters are, certainly not Napolean Solo (who was surely an inspiration for The A-Team's face man - not the greatest of legacies).
I imagine Ritchie went first to his Holmes, Robert Downey Jnr, who with Sherlock and Iron Man probably doesn't want another demanding franchise. Then maybe George Clooney, who's too smart an individual to be fooled into thinking he'd be anything more than Ritchie's puppet in his extravaganza of crash zooms, slo-mo and over convoluted plot.
So i guess that means we can look forward to... Jason Statham as Napolean Solo. No offence to him, he can be suprisingly OK in the right role, but Napolean Solo ain't the right role.
Personally i'd like to see the Director's reigns handed over to Nicolas Winding Refn (Bronson, Valhalla Rising, Drive and the forthcoming Only God Forgives) reunite with the amazingly versatile Tom Hardy as Napolean Solo and, as i suggested, Ryan Gosling as Illya Kuryakin, (Oh, and re-instate Burns' script). That would indeed be a real treat.
Edited by Odd Jobbies, 01 February 2013 - 10:09 AM.
Lt. Commander
Midshipman
Posted 02 February 2013 - 03:22 AM
Well I've seen the T.V series. It been going on for 2 decades for a Movie version of The Man from U.N.C.L.E. I email about with official UNCLE web. The moderator said they keep raving on about it all the time. Well Get Smart movie has been already after so long making it. Well I just soon before 2015. Here the web http://www.manfromuncle.org.
Commander
Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:32 PM
How Hollywood still doesn't get UNCLE:bit.ly/WkDPE1
I'm beginning to arrive at the suspicion it's perhaps not that bad a development Soderbergh didn't get to pull his version of TMFU...
Lieutenant
Posted 19 March 2013 - 01:34 AM
He played a VERY Solo like character in "Knight an Day".
Commander
Posted 19 March 2013 - 08:35 AM
I prefer Tom Cruise in some roles more than others - his role as Ethan Hunt in the 'Mission Impossible' films are my favourite of his, so I hope if this is true he can reign his some of his "action hero" ego and tone down Napoleon Solo to a more subtle, thrilling spy rather than an Ethan Hunt-type of spy.
Lt. Commander
Posted 19 March 2013 - 08:57 AM
What a shame...!
They need someone younger so the franchise can build, rather than whither with an increasingly old guy in role.
Also someone with less baggage in terms of image and already being Ethan Hunt.
If Ritchie really has to direct this, then i don't mind seeing his Sherlock crossover into the role. I know that's a little hypercritical, since i just mentioned Ethan Hunt, but Robert Downey is a more versatile actor than Cruise, though having said that the Downey we already know and love is pretty much perfect for Solo.
Ryan Goslin as Illya Kuryakin
Edited by Odd Jobbies, 19 March 2013 - 09:02 AM.
Commander
Posted 19 March 2013 - 02:22 PM
If Cruise is Solo, will there even be a Kuryakin? The M:I TV show was an ensemble, but the movies have been anything but. Maybe Solo will end up really being solo...
Sub-Lieutenant
Posted 19 March 2013 - 02:42 PM
That would make too many franchises for one guy. But on the other hand, it could be interesting to see Cruise leading a comedy (It would be a first, if I am not mistaken)
Lieutenant
Posted 19 March 2013 - 06:38 PM
Does make casting Kuryakin an interesting challenge.
Commander
Posted 19 March 2013 - 07:56 PM
That was a big part of the show though, a US agent working with a Russian agent at the time of big friction between USA and the USSR et al. It was a good benchmark and stand against the threat of war and espionage.
Solo needs Kuryakin to be U.N.C.L.E. Simple.
Commander
Posted 19 March 2013 - 10:20 PM
I totally agree. I'm just wondering if Cruise would resist a more or less equal co-star.
Sub-Lieutenant
Posted 19 March 2013 - 11:20 PM
It would never happen but it would be something to see Cruise to a Johnny Depp and play Kuryakin.
Lieutenant
Posted 20 March 2013 - 03:52 AM
They could always go with the format we saw in the Vulcan Affair and other 1st season episodes that were a one man show. Not saying that a lot of UNCLE fans would support that but it would be canon.
Sub-Lieutenant
Posted 20 March 2013 - 07:33 AM
To stick to the idea, Kuriakin would need to be chinese or iranian, today.That was a big part of the show though, a US agent working with a Russian agent at the time of big friction between USA and the USSR et al. It was a good benchmark and stand against the threat of war and espionage.
Solo needs Kuryakin to be U.N.C.L.E. Simple.
Lt. Commander
Posted 20 March 2013 - 03:34 PM
They could always go with the format we saw in the Vulcan Affair and other 1st season episodes that were a one man show. Not saying that a lot of UNCLE fans would support that but it would be canon.
Or Kuryakin is around but not as prominently. Examples: He's wounded in Act I of The Finny Foot Affair and not really seen much after; he's injured in Act II of The Love Affair, same thing. In The Green Opal Affair, Kuryakin is involved at HQs, but doesn't go with Solo on the main mission. In The Neptune Affair, Kuryakin is recalled to the Soviet Union as war is about to break out between the U.S. and U.S.S.R.
The first-season "Solo solo" episodes are The Iowa Scuba Affair, The Dove Affair (written by Robert Towne) and The Yellow Scarf Affair. (Might have missed one but these come to mind.). There's also one Solo solo in the third season. In the fourth, there's The Man From Thrush Affair, in which Solo works with another agent. It was filmed while David McCallum was getting married to his second (and present) wife.
Depp expressed an interest in 2011 during the period when The Lone Ranger had been canceled by Disney (only to be re-approved later). That got the attention of Warner Bros., but then The Long Ranger was back on and so....
It would never happen but it would be something to see Cruise to a Johnny Depp and play Kuryakin.
Lieutenant
Posted 20 March 2013 - 05:45 PM
And now Depp is finished with Lone Ranger.
I think of Finny Foot, Opal etc. much like the Vulcan format. Illya is there but as support for Solo, who carries the story.
If Illya turns out to be a major player in the film all they have to do is pattern the Solo Illya team after Fiddlesticks and Turbuf and they are home free. Chances of that happening..............................
To stick to the idea, Kuriakin would need to be chinese or iranian, today.That was a big part of the show though, a US agent working with a Russian agent at the time of big friction between USA and the USSR et al. It was a good benchmark and stand against the threat of war and espionage.
Solo needs Kuryakin to be U.N.C.L.E. Simple.
I believe the story still takes place in the 60's. At least for now.
Commander
Posted 20 March 2013 - 05:47 PM
Lieutenant
Posted 20 March 2013 - 07:25 PM
Now that's a tough question.
Commander
Posted 20 March 2013 - 07:42 PM
Exactly. It would perhaps be a better solution to have somebody for Solo and Kuryakin who already played together comfortably.
Sub-Lieutenant
Posted 20 March 2013 - 07:46 PM
Tom Cruise ? Are you QUITE serious ?
It would need YOUNGER actors. Not just for attracting an audience -- yes, TC still can, but for how long ? And with his schedule, but the time you get to a second or third picture he'll be 50 -- but for being right for the parts.
And finding a pair who's already worked together well -- what ? So they bring that baggage ?
So many people who write in to these forums keep throwing out the same tired list of aging names. Let it go !
New people, people !
Lieutenant
Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:25 PM
I would love to see relative unknowns in the roles who could "become" Solo and Illya but I don't think that is going to happen with Warners at the helm.
Sub-Lieutenant
Posted 20 March 2013 - 10:05 PM
I would love to see relative unknowns in the roles who could "become" Solo and Illya but I don't think that is going to happen with Warners at the helm.
Pretty agree on that. The only actor with whom Cruise had great chemistry that I can think about is Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man. NOt sure, he would fit for the part
Sub-Lieutenant
Posted 20 March 2013 - 11:39 PM
You couldn't do a big budget movie with a title like this starring unknowns.
Commander
Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:06 AM
Tom Cruise ? Are you QUITE serious ?
It would need YOUNGER actors. Not just for attracting an audience -- yes, TC still can, but for how long ? And with his schedule, but the time you get to a second or third picture he'll be 50 -- but for being right for the parts.
And finding a pair who's already worked together well -- what ? So they bring that baggage ?
So many people who write in to these forums keep throwing out the same tired list of aging names. Let it go !
New people, people !
Cruise is already 50. He reached that landmark age last summer. But he's one of those stars that hardly shows it. I'm a fan, so I don't mind his being up for the role at all.
George Clooney in his prime would have been my choice for Solo.
Commander
Posted 21 March 2013 - 03:01 AM
It would perhaps be a better solution to have somebody for Solo and Kuryakin who already played together comfortably.
Owen Wilson and Eddie Murphy
or Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn
or Owen Wilson and Ben Stiller...
Commander
Posted 21 March 2013 - 06:16 AM
Owen Wilson and Eddie Murphy
It would perhaps be a better solution to have somebody for Solo and Kuryakin who already played together comfortably.
or Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn
or Owen Wilson and Ben Stiller...
Lieutenant
Posted 21 March 2013 - 06:10 PM
They did just recently offer it to Affleck and Damon.............................. But, they turned them down.
