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#121 DamnCoffee

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 08:22 PM

maybe haggis will direct the next film instead of writing.


Could be a possibility. I remember Haggis saying that he turned down the offer of directing Quantum of Solace, because he felt that writing and directing would be too much.

Since Haggis is confirmed to not be writing Bond 23, I wouldn't be at all suprised if he was approached for the Directors job.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 08:48 PM

maybe haggis will direct the next film instead of writing.


Could be a possibility. I remember Haggis saying that he turned down the offer of directing Quantum of Solace, because he felt that writing and directing would be too much.

Since Haggis is confirmed to not be writing Bond 23, I wouldn't be at all suprised if he was approached for the Directors job.

Haggis as director could mean for a fall 2010 release.

I am curious looking at the press release again it seems like the writers are at equal status. Does this mean the 3 of them are gonna work together on the whole thing?

#123 Loomis

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 09:06 PM

I don't see Haggis directing something he hasn't written. Furthermore, I suspect he turned down the director's chair on QUANTUM OF SOLACE because, while he was quite happy to take a highly-paid script polishing gig on Bond (as he did on TERMINATOR SALVATION), he doesn't consider Bond a worthy or prestigious enough project for him to direct.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 10:20 PM

i agree that it is unlikely that haggis will be directing. it is nice to see that even though he is not returning that they are still trying to maintain the quality of the scripts by having another writer that is good with dialog.

while i do not think that purvis and wade are as horrible as other people on here think i do feel that their primary weakness is with dialog. i feel like they are able to come up with good plots and i also feel like they are pretty familiar with fleming's novels and they try to make the stories for their movies like something fleming would write today.

#125 danslittlefinger

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 05:08 AM

http://www.examiner....ames-Bond-flick

We might know him now as Aro in The Twilight Saga: New Moon, but the world might soon know Michael Sheen as Ernst Stavros Blofeld in the next James Bond film?
At least, that's the sentiment of one writer at Empire.

The as-yet untitled Bond 23 (relax, folks; just a working title, although we like the idea of that being the actual title) is gathering pace. Today, MGM and Bond flame-keepers, EON, announced the writing team for the new Daniel Craig-led mission, and there was a bit of a surprise.

Not in the announcement that Johnny English writers, Neal Purvis and Robert Wade would return for more Bondage – as walking 007 encyclopaedias, they’ve been on board since The World Is Not Enough - but the news that Frost/Nixon writer Peter Morgan has come on to fill Paul Haggis’ shoes in the role of Proper, Oscar-Nominated Writer Who’ll Give The Thing Some Classy Oomph.

"Peter, Neal and Robert are extraordinarily talented and we're looking forward to working with the three of them," Bond producers Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli said in a statement.

This is, of course, a Good Thing. Morgan is one of the hottest, and best, screenwriters around at the moment, and we can’t wait to see the spin he puts on 007, as he (presumably) hunts down the head of evil organisation, QUANTUM.

This also means that Michael Sheen’s a shoo-in for the bad guy role, right? And that bad guy is going to be Ernst Stavros Blofeld, right? RIGHT?

We all know that Sheen worked with Morgan on Frost/Nixon, but it should also be noted that Morgan wrote the screenplays for quite a few more of Sheen's films: The Damned United, The Deal, The Queen, and up-coming film The Special Relationship. The "special relationship," it appears, exists between Sheen and Morgan, and Hewitt's interpretation of Morgan's involvement with the next James Bond flick entails an inclusion of Michael Sheen for a part.

(interesting casting idea - I like it B) )

#126 dinovelvet

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 06:48 AM

We all know that Sheen worked with Morgan on Frost/Nixon, but it should also be noted that Morgan wrote the screenplays for quite a few more of Sheen's films: The Damned United, The Deal, The Queen, and up-coming film The Special Relationship. The "special relationship," it appears, exists between Sheen and Morgan, and Hewitt's interpretation of Morgan's involvement with the next James Bond flick entails an inclusion of Michael Sheen for a part.

(interesting casting idea - I like it B) )


Eh? Peter Morgan is not a casting director. This is as absurd as saying that Clint Eastwood was going to be the villain in QOS just because Paul Haggis wrote it.

#127 Jim

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 06:50 AM

We all know that Sheen worked with Morgan on Frost/Nixon, but it should also be noted that Morgan wrote the screenplays for quite a few more of Sheen's films: The Damned United, The Deal, The Queen, and up-coming film The Special Relationship. The "special relationship," it appears, exists between Sheen and Morgan, and Hewitt's interpretation of Morgan's involvement with the next James Bond flick entails an inclusion of Michael Sheen for a part.

(interesting casting idea - I like it B) )


Eh? Peter Morgan is not a casting director. This is as absurd as saying that Clint Eastwood was going to be the villain in QOS just because Paul Haggis wrote it.


The usual lazy speculations have to be tolerated, I suppose.

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 06:59 AM

We all know that Sheen worked with Morgan on Frost/Nixon, but it should also be noted that Morgan wrote the screenplays for quite a few more of Sheen's films: The Damned United, The Deal, The Queen, and up-coming film The Special Relationship. The "special relationship," it appears, exists between Sheen and Morgan, and Hewitt's interpretation of Morgan's involvement with the next James Bond flick entails an inclusion of Michael Sheen for a part.

(interesting casting idea - I like it B) )


Eh? Peter Morgan is not a casting director. This is as absurd as saying that Clint Eastwood was going to be the villain in QOS just because Paul Haggis wrote it.


And yet it wouldn't have made the idea any less awesome.

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 10:41 AM

I think after the sombre feel of QOS and the fact we've had a resolution to Bond's Vesper story I think 23 needs to see Craig's Bond having more fun, an action packed PTS which see's Craig enjoying himself more than before and maybe the JB theme before the titles appear.

Bond 23 needs to walk the line between what the previous Craig entries bought to the table and maybe say the tone of FRWL, it was more serious than GF, this is where Connery was at his best until all the silliness took over.

It looks likely Q may return and Moneypenny as well but it will have to be like never before. I can't see Bond 23 inhabiting the so serious tone of the previous films, I liked the humour in both entries but maybe a tad more, it was clever and subtle and suits Craig's deadpan delivery to a tee.

In the Q casting ideas I'll throw a new one in Tim Roth, after catching Tim in his new role as Cal Lightman in the enjoyable and interesting Lie To Me I could see Roth offering an original take on the Quartermaster.

If you were going for an agent who had been in the field but due to injuries had had to settle for a desk job, Roth could convey this quite convincingly.

It's up to the script writers I guess but if these characters are re-introduced then hopefully they'll as Craig said be given a new spin.

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 01:36 PM

I hope they change the characters though, make them new.
Q shouldn't be like Desmond's character or Cleese's for that. Make him completely new. Like an Old Army General who misses work in the field and now makes the gadgets and gizmos for the younger men to use and is resentfull to you for it.
I'm thinking Tom Wilkinson
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As for Moneypenny, I think it could work having her a Fields character. Make her a minor Bond girl, have her in an actual role. Make her important to the plot in some way.
I'm thinking Freema Agyeman or Keeley Hawes
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#131 Germanlady

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 02:24 PM

I see Moneypenny as an older woman, barely young enough to still have the hots for a man like Bond. We have two Bond girls, that provide the eye candy, so I see no reason for a third. Moneypenny could very well be an older woman, who can stand her own against Bond, despite having a weak spot for him.

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 03:25 PM

but why cant moneypenny be one of the bond girls?

#133 danslittlefinger

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 03:31 PM

We all know that Sheen worked with Morgan on Frost/Nixon, but it should also be noted that Morgan wrote the screenplays for quite a few more of Sheen's films: The Damned United, The Deal, The Queen, and up-coming film The Special Relationship. The "special relationship," it appears, exists between Sheen and Morgan, and Hewitt's interpretation of Morgan's involvement with the next James Bond flick entails an inclusion of Michael Sheen for a part.

(interesting casting idea - I like it B) )


Eh? Peter Morgan is not a casting director. This is as absurd as saying that Clint Eastwood was going to be the villain in QOS just because Paul Haggis wrote it.


And yet it wouldn't have made the idea any less awesome.



I didn't say he was a casting director. I merely meant I think Sheen would makea great Blofeld therefore interesting casting idea (by the Empire guy). :tdown:

http://www.cinemaret...ED-IN-2011.html
JAMES BOND SCRIPTWRITERS ANNOUNCED; EXPECT NEXT FILM TO BE RELEASED IN 2011
Same news, did they say expect 2011 before?

#134 Jim

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 03:44 PM

http://www.cinemaret...ED-IN-2011.html
JAMES BOND SCRIPTWRITERS ANNOUNCED; EXPECT NEXT FILM TO BE RELEASED IN 2011
Same news, did they say expect 2011 before?


"It is anticipated that..."

Doesn't identify on whose part that anticipation lies. "It is anticipated that it might not be" is about as conclusive, frankly.

Now everyone, remember the CBn school song:

When you speculate on CBn
Two plus two will equal ten


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Posted 14 June 2009 - 03:49 PM

http://www.cinemaret...ED-IN-2011.html
JAMES BOND SCRIPTWRITERS ANNOUNCED; EXPECT NEXT FILM TO BE RELEASED IN 2011
Same news, did they say expect 2011 before?


"It is anticipated that..."

Doesn't identify on whose part that anticipation lies. "It is anticipated that it might not be" is about as conclusive, frankly.

Now everyone, remember the CBn school song:

When you speculate on CBn
Two plus two will equal ten


Sorry, I overlooked the "it is anticipated that.." in the first release..
and a simple answer of 'it was in the first release" would have sufficed.

#136 danslittlefinger

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 04:00 PM

I hope they change the characters though, make them new.
Q shouldn't be like Desmond's character or Cleese's for that. Make him completely new. Like an Old Army General who misses work in the field and now makes the gadgets and gizmos for the younger men to use and is resentfull to you for it.
I'm thinking Tom Wilkinson
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As for Moneypenny, I think it could work having her a Fields character. Make her a minor Bond girl, have her in an actual role. Make her important to the plot in some way.
I'm thinking Freema Agyeman or Keeley Hawes
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Great choice. (Wilkinson).
As for Keeley, well she is/was (sorry don't know anymore) in Spooks, would that be too much "spy" for her?
I do hear she is a good friend of Craig's. (not that that matters).

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 04:24 PM

http://www.cinemaret...ED-IN-2011.html
JAMES BOND SCRIPTWRITERS ANNOUNCED; EXPECT NEXT FILM TO BE RELEASED IN 2011
Same news, did they say expect 2011 before?

The 2011 date was in the Variety story.

#138 Quantumofsolace007

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 04:56 PM

I still say the Q-esque scenes we got in Casino Royale (the tracker in bond's arm) and Quantum of Solace (we began tagging Le chiife's money that scene) is exactly the way Q should be presented in bond 23 no jokes no nonsense a simple

Q "here is this gadget you may find usefull"
Bond "Ok thank you"


and there you go Moneypenny on the other hand i have a radically different idea about her Perhaps instead of M's Secratary she is a a coder breaker. She is smart and great with computers and spends most of her time cracking coded messages between enemy agents.


this way they can include her into the film franchise as need be without it being reptitive or an add on.


Just a thought B)


And casting rumours will hit us from all sides over the next few weeks :tdown:

but still no one is willing to comment on a title SERIOUSLY god where is the sun's lazy and inacurate reporting when you need it.

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 05:04 PM

but why cant moneypenny be one of the bond girls?


Because she always was a character of her own - besides the Bond girls. She is a secretary not a Bond girl.

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 05:56 PM

Mixed emotions. I too welcome the addition of Morgan, who may bring something cool and fresh. Yet I remain buffaloed by inexhaustible supply of lives that P&W seem to enjoy. Still, the decision has been made. I wish them well as I hope for the best.

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 06:21 PM

and there you go Moneypenny on the other hand i have a radically different idea about her Perhaps instead of M's Secratary she is a a coder breaker. She is smart and great with computers and spends most of her time cracking coded messages between enemy agents.


this way they can include her into the film franchise as need be without it being reptitive or an add on.


Just a thought B)


First thing that crossed my mind when reading your post

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 06:28 PM

Well, I'm happy that Purvis and Wade are back for another go. IMO, they've written on two of the three best entries in the series (CR & QOS), and the general storylines that they developed for TWINE and DAD were fairly solid (but what was built on top of those foundations was absolutely dreadful). I think that their ability to come up with great general storylines will continue to serve the franchise well, especially if they can bring in writers of Peter Morgan's quality to polish up the areas where Purvis and Wade aren't particularly strong as screenwriters.

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 06:32 PM

I still say the Q-esque scenes we got in Casino Royale (the tracker in bond's arm) and Quantum of Solace (we began tagging Le chiife's money that scene) is exactly the way Q should be presented in bond 23 no jokes no nonsense a simple

Q "here is this gadget you may find usefull"
Bond "Ok thank you"


and there you go Moneypenny on the other hand i have a radically different idea about her Perhaps instead of M's Secratary she is a a coder breaker. She is smart and great with computers and spends most of her time cracking coded messages between enemy agents.

this way they can include her into the film franchise as need be without it being reptitive or an add on.

Just a thought :tdown:

And casting rumours will hit us from all sides over the next few weeks :)

but still no one is willing to comment on a title SERIOUSLY god where is the sun's lazy and inacurate reporting when you need it.


Oh I'm sure I will be the first to post anything from The Sun (in the appropriate thread of course). :tdown:

http://www.cinemaret...ED-IN-2011.html
JAMES BOND SCRIPTWRITERS ANNOUNCED; EXPECT NEXT FILM TO BE RELEASED IN 2011
Same news, did they say expect 2011 before?

The 2011 date was in the Variety story.

That has been pointed out, but thanks. B)

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 06:40 PM

I hope the Broccolis get a solid director for the next film and I suggest they look at ALFONSO CUARON. He would be a great choice to direct the next Bond film, since I feel he brings the total package for a Bond film to succeed.


Alfonso Cuaron would be a great choice!

I just watched "Children of Men" (with Clive Owen) -- the movie is filled with super long, continuous takes - the car chase through the forest is amazing.

Watch the special features to see how they did it -- very old school (no CGI) -- would be perfect for a Bond film.

Here's a youtube video (car chase starts around 1:50)


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Posted 14 June 2009 - 06:56 PM

I hope they change the characters though, make them new.
Q shouldn't be like Desmond's character or Cleese's for that. Make him completely new. Like an Old Army General who misses work in the field and now makes the gadgets and gizmos for the younger men to use and is resentfull to you for it.
I'm thinking Tom Wilkinson
Posted Image

As for Moneypenny, I think it could work having her a Fields character. Make her a minor Bond girl, have her in an actual role. Make her important to the plot in some way.
I'm thinking Freema Agyeman or Keeley Hawes
Posted Image
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Great choice. (Wilkinson).
As for Keeley, well she is/was (sorry don't know anymore) in Spooks, would that be too much "spy" for her?
I do hear she is a good friend of Craig's. (not that that matters).


Totally agree with Tom for Q and keeley would be spot on as moneypenny

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 07:35 PM

and there you go Moneypenny on the other hand i have a radically different idea about her Perhaps instead of M's Secratary she is a a coder breaker. She is smart and great with computers and spends most of her time cracking coded messages between enemy agents.


this way they can include her into the film franchise as need be without it being reptitive or an add on.


Just a thought B)


First thing that crossed my mind when reading your post

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i never watched 24 ever.

As for moneypenny being a secratary it just wouldn't work in the craig era don't ask me why.

oh and for the sun they metion bond 22 was Risico and everyone jumped on it :tdown:

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 07:39 PM

I still say the Q-esque scenes we got in Casino Royale (the tracker in bond's arm) and Quantum of Solace (we began tagging Le chiife's money that scene) is exactly the way Q should be presented in bond 23 no jokes no nonsense a simple


I also like the way that the "Q scenes" in the Craig films have been handled thus far. There's no need for them to come out and say that whoever the person is that is giving Bond a piece of equipment is in fact Q or Major Boothroyd. I think that the way they've gone about it in CR and QoS is perfect, and I'd like to see it continue to be rather anonymous people handling the responsibilities of that particular branch of MI6 rather than have another supporting character come on board to take up more screen time that could be used to further move the franchise forward, rather than looking back to the previous 20 films and bringing another checklist item into this new era of Bond films.

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 07:40 PM

and there you go Moneypenny on the other hand i have a radically different idea about her Perhaps instead of M's Secratary she is a a coder breaker. She is smart and great with computers and spends most of her time cracking coded messages between enemy agents.


this way they can include her into the film franchise as need be without it being reptitive or an add on.


Just a thought B)


First thing that crossed my mind when reading your post

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k


i never watched 24 ever.

As for moneypenny being a secratary it just wouldn't work in the craig era don't ask me why.


If you listen to only one piece of advice this year my friend it is this .......WATCH 24. Start at series 1. Enjoy.

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 07:47 PM

Lucy Liemann for Moneypenny, please.

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 07:56 PM

I also like the way that the "Q scenes" in the Craig films have been handled thus far. There's no need for them to come out and say that whoever the person is that is giving Bond a piece of equipment is in fact Q or Major Boothroyd. I think that the way they've gone about it in CR and QoS is perfect, and I'd like to see it continue to be rather anonymous people handling the responsibilities of that particular branch of MI6 rather than have another supporting character come on board to take up more screen time that could be used to further move the franchise forward, rather than looking back to the previous 20 films and bringing another checklist item into this new era of Bond films.


Agreed - gives room for the character of Bond without labouring it with all the tired crap. It's only because Bond himself wasn't particularly compelling as a character before that they've had to bolster it up with all the usual rubbish and hope they get away with it again.