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[honeyjes]

“I think that Quantum of Solace is as good a movie as Casino Royale,” Craig continued. “I think that the difference is that last time people were surprised by the fact that they enjoyed it. The fact is that we get reviews in newspapers that we’d never had reviews in before. Certainly with the Internet we get seven and a half million reviews, which are all worth looking at, obviously.”

Daniel, please wipe your mouth. 's dribbling from it.

If you set your mind back to the prior release of CR I believe you were one of many who were quite voiciferous with your venom against said actor, film and franchise, it was after press screenings and release that the back peddling and glut of praise began.

This is the article:
http://www.darkhoriz...s/defiance1.php

Question:
The reaction to this latest 'Bond' film was very different than the reaction to 'Casino Royale'. Did that surprise you?

Craig:
No, because 'Casino Royale' was based on a novel and we're always going to have that. When you do a movie like that where the basis of a story is really strong and also the momentum of it, everyone thought that it was going to be s--t. So when it wasn't they were all just completely surprised. I think that 'Quantum of Solace' is as good a movie as 'Casino Royale'. I think that the difference is that last time people were surprised by the fact that they enjoyed it. The fact is that we get reviews in newspapers that we'd never had reviews in before. Certainly with the internet we get seven and a half million reviews which are all worth looking at obviously.

DC's response seems valid to me not sure why the petty censure.

[[dark]]

1. The Gardner and Benson Novels could be done at somepoint and honeastly they will be done maybe not until bond 30 and another "reinvetnion" but i thikn it's matter of when not if.

Extremely unlikely. If they haven't been done by now, they won't be done at all. With IFP's new canon (i.e. Fleming's Bond books, Young Bond, The Moneypenny Diaries and Devil May Care), it seems like the Gardners, Bensons and Colonel Sun are reduced to a footnote in Bond history.

There's nothing to suggest Eon going back on their policy of not adapting continuation novels - least of all, those from decades gone by.

[YOLT]

1. The Gardner and Benson Novels could be done at somepoint and honeastly they will be done maybe not until bond 30 and another "reinvetnion" but i thikn it's matter of when not if.

Extremely unlikely. If they haven't been done by now, they won't be done at all. With IFP's new canon (i.e. Fleming's Bond books, Young Bond, The Moneypenny Diaries and Devil May Care), it seems like the Gardners, Bensons and Colonel Sun are reduced to a footnote in Bond history.

There's nothing to suggest Eon going back on their policy of not adapting continuation novels - least of all, those from decades gone by.

They dont have to adapt all the novels but they can combine the best parts and title them one of the novels. 5-6 films can be produced from the Gardner-Benson novels.

[Harmsway]

Again, just because Fleming did it doesn't mean it should be done. I don't think a giant squid fits with Craig's Bond at all, at least not as he's been presented in CASINO ROYALE and QUANTUM OF SOLACE. Heck, I have a hard time seeing that sequence coming off no matter what Bond we're talking about.

Funny, people were saying the same about the torture scene in CR for over 40 years.

I heard people claim the sequence was too extreme for EON's Bond (and for the majority of the franchise, it would have been), but that's an entirely different claim than, "It's too ridiculous/silly." And that's what I feel about a giant squid. Sure, giant squids may actually exist, but having Bond fight one is going to come off as absolutely absurd and silly no matter how it's executed.

I can see them filming this so called Dr. No obstacle course, that ends in a cave where Bond is trapped with this dangerous creature. If done right, the scene could be fantastic and not ridiculous like the para-sailing scene from DAD.

I can't. It would feel like Bond took a weird detour into Jules Verne territory.

[marktmurphy]

Ack: squids, sharks, space shuttles... once it's done we'll quite happily accept it.

[TheREAL008]

Original is the way to go from here on out. No more titles from short stories, no more outlandish plots. Take what they've learned from both CR and QoS and go from there.

And for god's sake...sack Purvis and Wade! Give them they're long deserved pink slip and send them on they're merry way. Hire Charlie Higson or even Raymond Benson if someone needs to. Or find an unknown writer who can understand Bond and not put the character through the 97-02 debacles all over again.

Edited by TheREAL008, 15 December 2008 - 11:09 PM.

[Thunderball302]

Original is the way to go from here on out. No more titles from short stories, no more outlandish plots. Take what they've learned from both CR and QoS and go from there.

And for god's sake...sack Purvis and Wade! Give them they're long deserved pink slip and send them on they're merry way. Hire Charlie Higson or even Raymond Benson if someone needs to. Or find an unknown writer who can understand Bond and not put the character through the 97-02 debacles all over again.

i'm on board with sacking Purvis and Wade!

[Eurospy]

Why?

Why are Purvis & Wade the sole responsibles for the fans' dislikes of certain movies or elements in them? What most still seem to fail to realize is that Purvis & Wade are at the very bottom of the food chain. They're not the ones who call the shots. They're the ones who follow orders the most.

And why does everyone praise Haggis so much? Doesn't he do polishes? Wasn't he who had the completely wrong idea to have Bond 22 be about Bond dealing with Vesper's child? Is that actually better than the Purvis & Wade material? Not for Bond.

And besides, what about many other writers who do certain re-writings and polishings, perhaps for the better perhaps for the worst, but we never hear of them? Of course that using Paul Haggis as the main writer is an extra detail that helps the movie have a bit more credit with a wider audience.

And I'll mention once more, there have been a few more writers on the films beyond those we hear about, script doctors, etc.

[quantumofsolace]

Who would like to see Daniel wrestle a giant squid?
A GIANT SQUID?

[stamper]

Original is the way to go from here on out.

Then the series is dead. No Bond film based on an "original" story ever comes close to all the Bonds that genuinely adapt a Fleming novel. Just cite me one that is up there with Dr No, FRWL, GF, TB, OHMSS & CR... there's none.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Original is the way to go from here on out.

Then the series is dead. No film based on an "original" story ever comes close to all the Bonds that genuinely adapt a Fleming novel.

Not nescarily I loved Quantum of solace and while it told an orignal plot it captured the essence of fleming.

I do feel saying nothing is left is a joke when clearly there is at least one thing from each of the the novels/short stories fleming wrote that aat the very7 least could make for an interesting scene or 2.


I would say one can come up with 6 -9 films based on the unused fleming material.

[Doctor Shatterhand]

Original is the way to go from here on out.

Then the series is dead. No Bond film based on an "original" story ever comes close to all the Bonds that genuinely adapt a Fleming novel. Just cite me one that is up there with Dr No, FRWL, GF, TB, OHMSS & CR... there's none.

The Spy Who Loved Me. Made a great deal of money and is a BIG fan favorite.

I can't. It would feel like Bond took a weird detour into Jules Verne territory.

Just like Dr. No was originally Fleming's answer to Sax Rohmer's Dr. Fu Manchu. The giant squid scene can evoke some excellent action. Of course if they choose to make it look like the rubber snake from the movie Moonraker, then all bets are off. But I seriously feel if they do this scene and build it up with the element of surprise, in other words don't show what is in the water until the last second, the scene would be classic.

But to be honest, the list I wrote up is what "I" would like to see. I could care less if anyone feels that it would be wrong for the series. I want to see classic Fleming moments and I hope Eon is reading this post.

[Eurospy]

But to be honest, the list I wrote up is what "I" would like to see. I could care less if anyone feels that it would be wrong for the series. I want to see classic Fleming moments and I hope Eon is reading this post.

No need for that. You think it would be astounding, others feel it would be a bit silly. You shared your opinion, others did the same, some agree, others don't, simple as that.

No matter how well-executed, I don't see Craig-Bond doing such giant squid scene. Perhaps if Brosnan got a better break, I could see him in such a scene, in some aquatic plot (in the vein of TB or TSWLM - both on my fave list).

But not with this take on the character. As strong as some elements might soud, they're not always fit for a certain story and/or characters.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I'm going to say it right now if they did a decent job and made it look great i'd be ok with the giant squid scene from Dr No showing up in a Craig bond film.

[Mr. Blofeld]

Why not use the opening scene from the Fleming original story From a View to a Kill, featuring an enemy agent disguised as a dispatch rider killing an actual dispatch rider? It could potentially be the first stage in unraveling a villainous plot, and I can easily see it occurring following the film's pre-titles sequene.

[TheREAL008]

Why not use the opening scene from the Fleming original story From a View to a Kill, featuring an enemy agent disguised as a dispatch rider killing an actual dispatch rider? It could potentially be the first stage in unraveling a villainous plot, and I can easily see it occurring following the film's pre-titles sequene.

I like that idea, and it could be an 'homage' to TLD.

[Mr. Blofeld]

Why not use the opening scene from the Fleming original story From a View to a Kill, featuring an enemy agent disguised as a dispatch rider killing an actual dispatch rider? It could potentially be the first stage in unraveling a villainous plot, and I can easily see it occurring following the film's pre-titles sequene.

I like that idea, and it could be an 'homage' to TLD.

Well, it hasn't even been properly used in the Bond films yet, unless once counts Connery riding a motorbike to evade SPECTRE in Never Say Never Again a proper adaptation of Fleming...

[iexpectu2die]

in quantum of solero bond didnt du birds enugh he shud start egen and paris hilton b in dis one as his girl lol

nd bring bak dr. crimbo jonez, she had baps LOL

[plankattack]

in quantum of solero bond didnt du birds enugh he shud start egen and paris hilton b in dis one as his girl lol

nd bring bak dr. crimbo jonez, she had baps LOL

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