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#1 [dark]

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 02:43 AM

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Daniel Craig hints 'Bond 23' will feature another original story


#2 Vauxhall

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 02:48 AM

Although I consider CASINO ROYALE to be superior, I think there's a lot of truth in this thought from Craig:
"I think that Quantum of Solace is as good a movie as Casino Royale. I think that the difference is that last time people were surprised by the fact that they enjoyed it."


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Posted 11 December 2008 - 02:58 AM

There's no question in my mind at all.

Quantum Of Solace is the best James Bond film made to date. It's collectively the best paced, most intelligent, most beautifully shot and most adult of all the Eon and non Eon Bonds.

Daniel Craig is without a shadow of a doubt THE best James Bond ever. Only Connery -and in Thunderball only - is arguably on par.

Quantum Of Solace is, again, arguably, more "moving" then anything that is in either FRWL or OHMSS or CR.

It makes the vast majority of the other 007 movies feel 'childish'.

It is the only Bond film that challenges the viewer to pay attention to every line of dialogue, and every little look of the main characters...for it takes you on a blistering ride at such breakneck speed that if you don't pay attention, you get left behind in the dust - with little hope of catching up.

Long may the Spirit of Quantum live in the offices of Eon Productions for there's no going back now.

Onwards and upwards!

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 03:08 AM

Craig's words are full of wisdom :(

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 03:20 AM

It irks me that he says there is no Fleming material left. I thought he'd be clamouring after the unused bits scattered throughout the novels and short stories. There's at least a film or three to be made out of all that. And, with Craig as Bond, now is the time to use up that material.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 03:29 AM

I think they should look to the early Brosnans for inspiration for the next film. I really hope they bring back 006 and control mines.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 05:07 AM

I personally agree with Daniel Craig. Casino Royale was better than Quantum of Solace. And Quantum of Solace was still very enjoyable to watch. I can't wait to see it again.

Can't believe we havta to 2and a half-3 years for Bond 23.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 05:08 AM

It irks me that he says there is no Fleming material left. I thought he'd be clamouring after the unused bits scattered throughout the novels and short stories. There's at least a film or three to be made out of all that. And, with Craig as Bond, now is the time to use up that material.

I agree I feel characters and elements from fleming are perfect. Von Hammerstien Phillip Masters and Jakc Spang could easily be quantum members.

I loved QOS and that was largely orignal (though there were fleming bits)


We'll see what bond 23 gives us. All in all I'm hoping for a fleming title.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 05:20 AM

It irks me that he says there is no Fleming material left. I thought he'd be clamouring after the unused bits scattered throughout the novels and short stories. There's at least a film or three to be made out of all that. And, with Craig as Bond, now is the time to use up that material.


Definitely agree with this. There's some really interesting movies that could be made with unused Fleming ideas.

Otherwise, very cool interview with DC. Glad to see that they're approaching the next one as a "fresh" project.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 06:03 AM

I think they should look to the early Brosnans for inspiration for the next film. I really hope they bring back 006 and control mines.


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Posted 11 December 2008 - 06:23 AM

I think they should look to the early Brosnans for inspiration for the next film. I really hope they bring back 006 and control mines.


:(

Yeah. Looks like the cow is back, or just some troll who's obsessed with "control mines". :)

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 07:08 AM

I hope that freshness may well include the reappearance of Camille.

I still want B23 have at least some connection with CR and Qos events.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 07:54 AM

There's no question in my mind at all.

Quantum Of Solace is the best James Bond film made to date. It's collectively the best paced, most intelligent, most beautifully shot and most adult of all the Eon and non Eon Bonds.

Daniel Craig is without a shadow of a doubt THE best James Bond ever. Only Connery -and in Thunderball only - is arguably on par.

Quantum Of Solace is, again, arguably, more "moving" then anything that is in either FRWL or OHMSS or CR.

It makes the vast majority of the other 007 movies feel 'childish'.

It is the only Bond film that challenges the viewer to pay attention to every line of dialogue, and every little look of the main characters...for it takes you on a blistering ride at such breakneck speed that if you don't pay attention, you get left behind in the dust - with little hope of catching up.

Long may the Spirit of Quantum live in the offices of Eon Productions for there's no going back now.

Onwards and upwards!


Salud! :(

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 07:56 AM

I'm glad they're seeing that they need to continue pushing ahead and creating new formulas for each movie and not stick with the same old. That's really great news.

Having said that, I still hope they have some connection to CR and QOS, as this is one of the things that I'm liking about Craig's era compared to the old ones. It feels like his 'story' and not just a new adventure with James Bond!

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 08:11 AM

I hope that freshness may well include the reappearance of Camille.

I still want B23 have at least some connection with CR and Qos events.


No. Camille won't be back, she served her purpose. QoS was much her story as it was Bond's. The only connection Bond 23 and future Bond movies will have to CR/Q0S is, the quantum organization. Other than that, it's back to traditional stand alone adventures.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 08:39 AM

There's no question in my mind at all.

Quantum Of Solace is the best James Bond film made to date. It's collectively the best paced, most intelligent, most beautifully shot and most adult of all the Eon and non Eon Bonds.


I'll second that. I think the only films in the series to challenge it in those departments are OHMSS and CR. It definitely pips OHMSS for me now, and I'm minded to think it also beats (just) CR. That's not to say it diminishes my affection for the other movies - the Bond series has been too much a part of my life since the late 60s for that. But these three intelligent films, QoS particularly, do make the others seem a bit... well, yes, childish, in comparison.


I think they should look to the early Brosnans for inspiration for the next film. I really hope they bring back 006 and control mines.


I'm not a Brosnan-basher by any means, and I liked his films. That said, I'm not absolutely sure the word "inspiration" and "the Brosnans" belong in the same sentence...

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 08:44 AM

I think they should look to the early Brosnans for inspiration for the next film. I really hope they bring back 006 and control mines.


:(


No kidding! How can EON possibly get inspiration from the most uninspired period of Bond films? The early Brosnan films were just poor rehashes of earlier Connery/Moore flicks. As for the later Brosnans...well, there's a reason they needed to restart the series.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 08:50 AM

How can EON possibly get inspiration from the most uninspired period of Bond films?


Those of us who lived through the Bonds of '71-'74 first hand might challenge you on that assertion... :(

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 08:52 AM

I think they should look to the early Brosnans for inspiration for the next film. I really hope they bring back 006 and control mines.


:(


No kidding! How can EON possibly get inspiration from the most uninspired period of Bond films? The early Brosnan films were just poor rehashes of earlier Connery/Moore flicks. As for the later Brosnans...well, there's a reason they needed to restart the series.


I´m known for defending the Brosnan era. But in contrast to Craig´s Bond films one really has to admit: the Brosnan era was just a modern rehash of the classic Bond clichés. So, I hope they don´t get their inspiration for Bond 23 from those films.

But a little Moore-TSWLM wouldn´t hurt... :)

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 09:35 AM

I hope that freshness may well include the reappearance of Camille.

I still want B23 have at least some connection with CR and Qos events.

I agree that we want some connection, but not Camille. The character ran her course, she got her revenge and they both moved on, bringing her back now would be pointless. I know Barbara Broccoli said there was a possibility, but there have been plans and rumours to bring back every other Bond girl for the last 20 years, so I doubt it will come to anything.

#21 SecretAgentFan

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 12:09 PM

Yes. Camille is done. I guess all the talk about her coming back was just PR to push her.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 01:04 PM

Yes, I think they can go to Moore moreso than Brosnan for some inspiration.

The Spy Who Loved Me and Moonraker are really wild epics. They remain firmly in my own Top 8. I have fond memories of them from back then and I think they show vision.

Fine, the latter *could* be edited down for flapping wings, bondolas and double-taking pigeons, but it has scope and sweep.

It's time we got some Scope And Sweep. Let's do subs and space AS LONG AS IT'S DONE WITH A GOOD DEGREE OF REALISM.

PS

And I agree that "Camille is done", that she "served her purpose".

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 01:50 PM

Fun as they might be, Moore's is not my favourite Bonds, although TSWLM is in fact one of my fave Bond movies.

Although Thunderball ranks higher, and I'd like to see that balance of humour, action, suspense and a slightly more relaxed manner of approaching the story.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 03:35 PM

A few quick points

-the brosnan poster is probably a kid who know more about the bond games then films which is fine we all have to come from somewhere in a few years time he'll go hopefully to a more fleming bond we all love :(


-EON if your listening If a bunch of fan can create fan script baseed on unused fleming ideas and some of them are amazing then shouldn't you and your team be able to do the same only much better. at ther very least take a scnario from one of the novels as your stasting point and work from there.. I'm working on example to show you soon watch this space...



-We need another fleming title! Why you ask? Cause I don't want Craig's bond films to have unused Jean Claud Van Damme titles.


and that it so to some up the brosnan fan knows not what he does, EON is stupid for not going back to fleming (there i've said it) for material for bond 23. and We need another Felming title (i'm pushing for The Hildebrand Rarity with the logo by Craig is 007 to be the offical one.)

Edited by Quantumofsolace007, 11 December 2008 - 03:35 PM.


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Posted 11 December 2008 - 04:21 PM

I think they should look to the early Brosnans for inspiration for the next film. I really hope they bring back 006 and control mines.


:(


No kidding! How can EON possibly get inspiration from the most uninspired period of Bond films? The early Brosnan films were just poor rehashes of earlier Connery/Moore flicks. As for the later Brosnans...well, there's a reason they needed to restart the series.


I´m known for defending the Brosnan era. But in contrast to Craig´s Bond films one really has to admit: the Brosnan era was just a modern rehash of the classic Bond clichés. So, I hope they don´t get their inspiration for Bond 23 from those films.

But a little Moore-TSWLM wouldn´t hurt... :)


It's interesting you say that as my two favorite Bond films are now as follows...
#1 - TSWLM
#2 - QOS

(Yes, I bumbed QOS to #2, and CR is now #3)

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 04:25 PM

(Yes, I bumbed QOS to #2, and CR is now #3)


You did what to it? Fnarr.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 04:29 PM

(Yes, I bumbed QOS to #2, and CR is now #3)


You did what to it? Fnarr.


:( Excuse me, "bumPed"

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 04:36 PM

But-but-but-but-but.... They used-up all material from Fleming, the well is dry?!?!?! :(

and double :)

Ok, that's it. I love QOS and strongly dislike the Bourne comparisons made to it.

But I will make a Bourne comparison right here.

First, we have Damon claiming that they used-up all there was in the books ( ;) ) and now Craig says the same thing about Fleming?! :)

What the?!...

All they have to do is go back to the unused books like DAF, MR, TMWTGG, etc. update them, give them new titles and have a nip and tuck in the plots here and there. There is an enormous amount of quantity of source material left untouched and they dare to utter those words?!

Oh, come on. Craig has greatly disppointed me in this one.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 05:16 PM

But-but-but-but-but.... They used-up all material from Fleming, the well is dry?!?!?! :(

and double :)

Ok, that's it. I love QOS and strongly dislike the Bourne comparisons made to it.

But I will make a Bourne comparison right here.

First, we have Damon claiming that they used-up all there was in the books ( ;) ) and now Craig says the same thing about Fleming?! :)

What the?!...

All they have to do is go back to the unused books like DAF, MR, TMWTGG, etc. update them, give them new titles and have a nip and tuck in the plots here and there. There is an enormous amount of quantity of source material left untouched and they dare to utter those words?!

Oh, come on. Craig has greatly disppointed me in this one.



Oh i agree I find it laughable almost that the fans can create amazing idea for bond 23 using fleming material YET EON constantly says "we have no more material left to use"


Hopefully one of the "risks" Barbra is talking about is going back and doing fleming stories for the rest of craig's tenure.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 05:33 PM

I think people are misreading Craig's comments. He ment there are no entire novels (I.e. Casino Royale) to adapt. Hence the reference to a hidden manuscript in Goldeneye. They will use the Fleming material still here and there as they see fit. But the story line will be created by new writers.

BTW, it looks like Borne is copying the 'Casino Royale' story for #4, sad they have to copy a more superior franchise in only their 4th installment! Bond Rulz!