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[bondrules]

You haven't offended anyone, Nic. Fandom is a messy world. We all have our loyalties and opinions, and sometimes it gets nasty. But my beef isn't with you - you're fabulous (and cute!) - it's with whoever stated that we all really loved that awful CGI in DAD and just didn't want to admit it. If he was being ironic, I didn't catch it. I think he actually meant it, which the most terrifying notion I have ever entertained...

That would be Blackfire.

[Kristian]

You haven't offended anyone, Nic. Fandom is a messy world. We all have our loyalties and opinions, and sometimes it gets nasty. But my beef isn't with you - you're fabulous (and cute!) - it's with whoever stated that we all really loved that awful CGI in DAD and just didn't want to admit it. If he was being ironic, I didn't catch it. I think he actually meant it, which is easily the most terrifying notion I have ever entertained...

That would be Blackfire.

Got it. I will send 005 to smoke his azz!!! Run, Blackfire, RUN.

Edited by Kristian, 16 November 2008 - 10:54 PM.

[Ultraussie (Jordan.adams)]

It's definitely not the worst Bond film of all time. Do you seriously think it's worse than Diamonds Are Forever, or Die Another Day, or The Man With The Golden Gun?

The man with the Golden gun and Diamonds are forever were excellent movies. Its DAD thats the worst movie ever, wont be suprised if QOS outtops it. It comes out tormorrow in australia. I hope its like DAD, but entertaining unlike Thunderball and the ending of Dr. No.

[TheREAL008]

I wrote in my review that QoS is a grower.

Darren, watch it a second time and possibly a third. And even though I still disagree with you about NSNA, it doesn't mean that we haven't agreed on Bond and Detective movies before.


Keep dancing.

[spynovelfan]

So, Darren, is your advice now: 'Don't, whatever you do, watch this POS - unless you might get a POA?'

[Loomis]

Loomis,

What's your source for Gray? Is this like (wrong) idea that Joseph Wiseman did the voice for Blofeld in Thunderball?

Ah, well, you've got me there. All I can tell you is that it's something I read a while back right here on CBn.

The only thing I know is that the person who was hired was the same actor who did the English language track for the actual light show. I've seen that light show years back, and it IS the same voice. So unless Gray did that track, it just ain't him.

Fair enough.

I am sure that QUANTUM OF SOLACE was originally titled CASINO ROYALE II: BEYOND THE ICE. Honest!

[spynovelfan]

I am sure that QUANTUM OF SOLACE was originally titled CASINO ROYALE II: BEYOND THE ICE. Honest!

Either you're pulling our leg, Loomis, or someone's been pulling yours.

[DLibrasnow]

Well one of my friends just called and pleaded with me to go see Quantum of Solace with her. She's hot so I guess I am headed over to see it a second time.

Hey, at least your going with a hot chick, so it can't be a total loss right?

Hey, I thought you were married Darren? You evil bastid!

I was. But it was a long time ago.

[Major Tallon]

I hope you enjoy it more on second viewing. In any event, I also like NSNA; doing so isn't a prohibition on panning QOS.

[Roger Moore's Bad Facelift]

I like NSNA. Love DAD. And just returned from QOS...
Aside from the raging inferno ending, which had the same forced, tacked-on feeling as TMWTGG's island meltdown, I think QOS sits nicely as a capstone to Dalton's paired down entries.
A serviceable, if undistinguished addition to the cannon, with enough cool Bondian moments to make it all worth seeing.

3/5

[Kristian]

Well one of my friends just called and pleaded with me to go see Quantum of Solace with her. She's hot so I guess I am headed over to see it a second time.

Hey, at least your going with a hot chick, so it can't be a total loss right?

Hey, I thought you were married Darren? You evil bastid!

I was. But it was a long time ago.

I hope you didn't receive a lighter as a present recently.

Edited by Kristian, 17 November 2008 - 03:45 AM.

[B5Erik]

The worst in the series? No, not even close (that prize is shared by Live and Let Die and Moonraker's 2nd half), but it IS a disappointing movie that - IMO - has the worst direction, cinematography, and editing of all the Bond movies.

The script was clearly rushed and needed another polish to give it more character moments, but it wasn't horrible. Craig and Dench were fantastic, and the supporting cast was good.

But the technical stuff (direction, editing, camerawork) was garbage, IMO. That aspect of the movie just did not work for me.

[Goldbadge]

Righty, what was the significance of the $20 bill? I can't recall it in the film right now. Thanks

[JohnFerguson]

I am sure that QUANTUM OF SOLACE was originally titled CASINO ROYALE II: BEYOND THE ICE. Honest!

I hate to disappoint you, Loomis, but I have it on good authority that QOS was originally titled CASINO ROYALE II: ZERO WINDCHILL.

[Tarl_Cabot]

I'm still waiting for Darren's re-review...

Comon, let's have it.

[DLibrasnow]

I'm still waiting for Darren's re-review...

Comon, let's have it.

I plead the fifth and deny all knowledge of ever having sent the following message to select members of CBn:

"OK. So the movie does improve on a second viewing (or was it the fact that I had a cute blonde on my arm). Whatever, I am now in the unenviable position that zencat finds himself in whenever THAT thread rears its head.

As such I will deny ever admitting that - I liked it the second time around."

Never, under any circumatsnces, was the above message sent to Tarl, zencat, Stromberg, Bondian and other assorted members of CBn.

[Tarl_Cabot]

Plausible deniability accepted.


Glad you might have enjoyed it more the second time(in a parallel universe).

[Harmsway]

I'm still waiting for Darren's re-review...

Comon, let's have it.

I plead the fifth and deny all knowledge of ever having sent the following message to select members of CBn:

"OK. So the movie does improve on a second viewing (or was it the fact that I had a cute blonde on my arm). Whatever, I am now in the unenviable position that zencat finds himself in whenever THAT thread rears its head.

As such I will deny ever admitting that - I liked it the second time around."

Never, under any circumatsnces, was the above message sent to Tarl, zencat, Stromberg, Bondian and other assorted members of CBn.

[Johnboy007]

Whatever the reason may be, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[Kristian]

I'm still waiting for Darren's re-review...

Comon, let's have it.

I plead the fifth and deny all knowledge of ever having sent the following message to select members of CBn:

"OK. So the movie does improve on a second viewing (or was it the fact that I had a cute blonde on my arm). Whatever, I am now in the unenviable position that zencat finds himself in whenever THAT thread rears its head.

As such I will deny ever admitting that - I liked it the second time around."

Never, under any circumatsnces, was the above message sent to Tarl, zencat, Stromberg, Bondian and other assorted members of CBn.

Hi, D... Turbo-Bitch, here.

We'd still think you're the honey-bees buzz even if you continued to dislike QOS. As my PM states, you'll have to forgive my rather acerbic humor - a nice way of saying I have a disease called Bitch-itis.

Now, then... QOS has certainly drawn a line in the sand, so much so that CBN is mirroring a Bond flick: shifting allegiances, unexpected allies, bimbos who won't shut up (ahem), sudden reversals, and knock-down drag-out battles that would put Bond and Mitchell's ENGLISH PATIENT GONE MAD-ropes-and-ladders-tussle to shame.

NOW THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT.

I need some more wine...

[SecretAgentFan]

Also, attacking a professional writer's output (even on a blog) is not terribly civil.

That is one of the most ridiculous things I´ve ever read.

By the way, DLibra, thank you for reconsidering and admitting it here. That takes courage.

[Tarl_Cabot]

I did learned something thing from Darren's rants here at cbn: That TWINE is really really bad.I didn't really understand how bad it was until he convinced me. Still, it's the Godfather compared to the follow up.

[DLibrasnow]

I did learned something thing from Darren's rants here at cbn: That TWINE is really really bad.I didn't really understand how bad it was until he convinced me. Still, it's the Godfather compared to the follow up.

Nah. Though my opinion of Die Another Day is not on the loving level that zencat holds the movie I still think that the movie is really rather good until Bond arrives in Iceland. I especially like the sword fight, seeing Bond as a prisoner and the Cuban sequences.

The World is not Enough on the other hand has a great boat chase, but falls apart almost as soon as the titles roll.

[Tarl_Cabot]

I did learned something thing from Darren's rants here at cbn: That TWINE is really really bad.I didn't really understand how bad it was until he convinced me. Still, it's the Godfather compared to the follow up.

Nah. Though my opinion of Die Another Day is not on the loving level that zencat holds the movie I still think that the movie is really rather good until Bond arrives in Iceland. I especially like the sword fight, seeing Bond as a prisoner and the Cuban sequences.

The World is not Enough on the other hand has a great boat chase, but falls apart almost as soon as the titles roll.

well DAD tanks when Jinx dives into the ocean but I do enjoy the sword fight. The first 45 min are pretty good actually but the latter half is criminal.

[Kristian]

I did learned something thing from Darren's rants here at cbn: That TWINE is really really bad.I didn't really understand how bad it was until he convinced me. Still, it's the Godfather compared to the follow up.

Nah. Though my opinion of Die Another Day is not on the loving level that zencat holds the movie I still think that the movie is really rather good until Bond arrives in Iceland. I especially like the sword fight, seeing Bond as a prisoner and the Cuban sequences.

The World is not Enough on the other hand has a great boat chase, but falls apart almost as soon as the titles roll.

Since D is being courageous and big, let me help his case and just add that I too have been in a similar - if inverse - position. I adored TWINE when it came out (except for Ms. Wild Things Silicon Implant Incubator doing her Nuclear Physicist impersonation). But now, the more I watch it, the more I think that there were some major missteps here and there. Such as Bond falling in love. And Having a boring henchman. And setting up a backstory for the bond girl and then not pursuing it ("Avoiding those kind of questions"). And the action scenes are frankly dull (except that boat chase in the beginning).


Apted and Forster were both dramatic directors who were brought in to give the Bond formula depth and nuance and instead created polarizing Bond films. As Renard would say, TWINE and QOS will share a common fate. Except QOS will make much, much, much, much, more moolah...

[Tarl_Cabot]

Marc Forster may be an arsty fartsy testosterone challenge euro wuss to some people but he's smart and he doesn't put any cringe inducing moments on the screen in QOS. The movie works. The much maligned car chase: I got the feeling Bond was actually in peril. Really. No super confident," I'll just hit this switch and be done with these tossers" kinda confidence. The chase was intense.I loved it.

[Bonita]

I'm still waiting for Darren's re-review...

Comon, let's have it.

I plead the fifth and deny all knowledge of ever having sent the following message to select members of CBn:

"OK. So the movie does improve on a second viewing (or was it the fact that I had a cute blonde on my arm). Whatever, I am now in the unenviable position that zencat finds himself in whenever THAT thread rears its head.

As such I will deny ever admitting that - I liked it the second time around."

Never, under any circumatsnces, was the above message sent to Tarl, zencat, Stromberg, Bondian and other assorted members of CBn.

And NSNA does actually have its moments.

Good show, my man! Good show.

Keep dancing...

[ACE]

I plead the fifth and deny all knowledge of ever having sent the following message to select members of CBn:

"OK. So the movie does improve on a second viewing (or was it the fact that I had a cute blonde on my arm). Whatever, I am now in the unenviable position that zencat finds himself in whenever THAT thread rears its head.

As such I will deny ever admitting that - I liked it the second time around."

Bravo, DLibrasnow. And brave.
I guess we all have an emotional stake in the new Bond and if it catches us the wrong way, we get the odd outburst. I hope other disappointed Bond fans will give the film a second chance. There are many open-minded, non-oldthink fans who do not prefer QOS and feel let down by it. To each their own, I guess.

Great that you found some redeeming features in the new Bond feature, DLibrasnow. And thanks for admitting as much - hopefully others will decide for themselves.

[jaguar007]

I'm still waiting for Darren's re-review...

Comon, let's have it.

I plead the fifth and deny all knowledge of ever having sent the following message to select members of CBn:

"OK. So the movie does improve on a second viewing (or was it the fact that I had a cute blonde on my arm). Whatever, I am now in the unenviable position that zencat finds himself in whenever THAT thread rears its head.

As such I will deny ever admitting that - I liked it the second time around."

Never, under any circumatsnces, was the above message sent to Tarl, zencat, Stromberg, Bondian and other assorted members of CBn.

I can't wait to see it a second time. My wife strep throat kept me out of the theater all weekend, but I'm planning on seeing it again on Monday. I liked the movie ok, but thought it moved too fast the first 1/2 hour.

[Bondian]

I'm still waiting for Darren's re-review...

Comon, let's have it.

I plead the fifth and deny all knowledge of ever having sent the following message to select members of CBn:

"OK. So the movie does improve on a second viewing (or was it the fact that I had a cute blonde on my arm). Whatever, I am now in the unenviable position that zencat finds himself in whenever THAT thread rears its head.

As such I will deny ever admitting that - I liked it the second time around."

Never, under any circumatsnces, was the above message sent to Tarl, zencat, Stromberg, Bondian and other assorted members of CBn.

I can quite categorically confirm, that Mr. DLibrasnow (address unknown) has not, did not or whatnot deliver such literature to ones personal mail box. I speak of sound mind, and am no way connected to Mr. DLibrasnow either personally, improbably or sexually (save for the odd early night on a pizza evening).

Mr. DLibrasnow did not send any such literature. And I am unanimous in that. (Mrs Slocombe).

So bollocks to that.

Good night.

Yours sincerely,


DR. A.R.M Amputation (saw and nails dept.)