Q and Moneypenny will be back
#151
Posted 14 September 2009 - 03:57 AM
#152
Posted 14 September 2009 - 09:32 AM
Not odd. Just awful. The same for Bond and Cleese.I for one would like to see Q and Miss Moneypenny return. In fact, I'm rather looking forward to it, particularly Q. My favorite part of the Bond films have always been the visits to Q's lab. As for who would play them, I would actually like to see Samantha Bond and John Cleese return. I enjoyed them in the roles. However, if the people decide to go in a different direction with casting, then I'd like David McCallum to play Q, and maybe Eva Green could come back for Moneypenny. Or would that be too odd?
We have moved on.
#153
Posted 14 September 2009 - 09:34 AM
Not odd. Just awful. The same for Bond and Cleese.I for one would like to see Q and Miss Moneypenny return. In fact, I'm rather looking forward to it, particularly Q. My favorite part of the Bond films have always been the visits to Q's lab. As for who would play them, I would actually like to see Samantha Bond and John Cleese return. I enjoyed them in the roles. However, if the people decide to go in a different direction with casting, then I'd like David McCallum to play Q, and maybe Eva Green could come back for Moneypenny. Or would that be too odd?
We have moved on.
Precisely, time for a different a different Q.
#154
Posted 14 September 2009 - 12:09 PM
I for one would like to see Q and Miss Moneypenny return. In fact, I'm rather looking forward to it, particularly Q. My favorite part of the Bond films have always been the visits to Q's lab. As for who would play them, I would actually like to see Samantha Bond and John Cleese return. I enjoyed them in the roles. However, if the people decide to go in a different direction with casting, then I'd like David McCallum to play Q, and maybe Eva Green could come back for Moneypenny. Or would that be too odd?
Eva Green as Miss Moneypenny.
First reaction: Impossible. Horrible.
Second reaction: Wait a minute. Maybe you´re on to something here.
If Green with another hairstyle and makeup and a different demeanour were to play Moneypenny it would explain Bond´s feelings for her. A whole new relationship could be established here. The new Moneypenny would flirt with Bond but reject him and this would make Bond want her even more.
#155
Posted 14 September 2009 - 12:22 PM
Terrible idea.I for one would like to see Q and Miss Moneypenny return. In fact, I'm rather looking forward to it, particularly Q. My favorite part of the Bond films have always been the visits to Q's lab. As for who would play them, I would actually like to see Samantha Bond and John Cleese return. I enjoyed them in the roles. However, if the people decide to go in a different direction with casting, then I'd like David McCallum to play Q, and maybe Eva Green could come back for Moneypenny. Or would that be too odd?
Eva Green as Miss Moneypenny.
First reaction: Impossible. Horrible.
Second reaction: Wait a minute. Maybe you´re on to something here.
If Green with another hairstyle and makeup and a different demeanour were to play Moneypenny it would explain Bond´s feelings for her. A whole new relationship could be established here. The new Moneypenny would flirt with Bond but reject him and this would make Bond want her even more.
And a bit Glen A Larson if you ask me.
#156
Posted 14 September 2009 - 01:10 PM
Terrible idea.I for one would like to see Q and Miss Moneypenny return. In fact, I'm rather looking forward to it, particularly Q. My favorite part of the Bond films have always been the visits to Q's lab. As for who would play them, I would actually like to see Samantha Bond and John Cleese return. I enjoyed them in the roles. However, if the people decide to go in a different direction with casting, then I'd like David McCallum to play Q, and maybe Eva Green could come back for Moneypenny. Or would that be too odd?
Eva Green as Miss Moneypenny.
First reaction: Impossible. Horrible.
Second reaction: Wait a minute. Maybe you´re on to something here.
If Green with another hairstyle and makeup and a different demeanour were to play Moneypenny it would explain Bond´s feelings for her. A whole new relationship could be established here. The new Moneypenny would flirt with Bond but reject him and this would make Bond want her even more.
And a bit Glen A Larson if you ask me.
Plus Eva Green - an actress who seeks out interesting and complex parts - would NEVER, EVER in a million years agree to play Moneypenny. NEVER.
#157
Posted 14 September 2009 - 06:53 PM
I might say you're on to something if the idea was to cast an actress who vaguely resembled Green - AND - if the resemblance was never, EVER, directly addressed within the film. The most attention it should receive is an address from Craig, spoken only with the eyes. No silly double-take, or the like. A message suggested. Not spoken or 'explained'.If Green with another hairstyle and makeup and a different demeanour were to play Moneypenny it would explain Bond´s feelings for her.
Casting Green herself would be as terrible* an idea as it would be impractical*.
*Both points already made.
#158
Posted 15 September 2009 - 01:16 PM
I for one would like to see Q and Miss Moneypenny return. In fact, I'm rather looking forward to it, particularly Q. My favorite part of the Bond films have always been the visits to Q's lab. As for who would play them, I would actually like to see Samantha Bond and John Cleese return. I enjoyed them in the roles. However, if the people decide to go in a different direction with casting, then I'd like David McCallum to play Q, and maybe Eva Green could come back for Moneypenny. Or would that be too odd?
Odd try assinine.
#159
Posted 15 September 2009 - 04:08 PM
I might say you're on to something if the idea was to cast an actress who vaguely resembled Green - AND - if the resemblance was never, EVER, directly addressed within the film. The most attention it should receive is an address from Craig, spoken only with the eyes. No silly double-take, or the like. A message suggested. Not spoken or 'explained'.If Green with another hairstyle and makeup and a different demeanour were to play Moneypenny it would explain Bond´s feelings for her.
Casting Green herself would be as terrible* an idea as it would be impractical*.
*Both points already made.
Alright, alright - I just thought it would be...
Never mind
#160
Posted 15 September 2009 - 04:15 PM
#161
Posted 15 September 2009 - 04:50 PM
Aw cheer up, I kind of like it. Don't know what I'd think of it if it actually happened but purely as an idea it's, I dunno, cute.
Thanks!
It remains very interesting to see how EON will deal with "Q" and "Moneypenny" in the future movies.
I guess it was not coincidence that Craig brought them up again. I do believe EON wants to reactivate those characters.
But how?
There is a big danger in bringing back these characters. Will "Q" once again be the technical mastermind that has no patience for Bond´s impatience? Will "Moneypenny" once again be the one girl he is always flirting with but never will actually go serious with?
If so, we will go down the same route every previous Bond film has gone. That will work, of course, but it will diminish the novelty factor of the Craig-reimagining-era.
So... what can "Q" be if he is not what he used to be?
What about if "Q" and "Moneypenny" were to be combined and cast as a woman? A female tech adviser that could go out into the field with Bond. He would flirt with her but she would resist, being the one woman Bond could actually not bed.
What do you think?
#162
Posted 15 September 2009 - 05:02 PM
I like the idea of a female Q because I'm a fan of Gardner's Ann "Q'ute" Reilly.What about if "Q" and "Moneypenny" were to be combined and cast as a woman? A female tech adviser that could go out into the field with Bond. He would flirt with her but she would resist, being the one woman Bond could actually not bed.Aw cheer up, I kind of like it. Don't know what I'd think of it if it actually happened but purely as an idea it's, I dunno, cute.
Q and Moneypenny play two unique and different roles so combining the two characters makes as much sense as combining Bill Tanner and Felix Leiter. Bad idea.
#163
Posted 15 September 2009 - 05:10 PM
Agreed.Q and Moneypenny play two unique and different roles so combining the two characters makes as much sense as combining Bill Tanner and Felix Leiter. Bad idea.
#164
Posted 16 September 2009 - 01:44 AM
#165
Posted 16 September 2009 - 01:54 AM
So... what can "Q" be if he is not what he used to be?
He can be Peter Burton: The efficient, professional Quartermaster of Fleming's novels who appears to have no genuine relationship with agent 007. At the very least it's a good, if somewhat obvious, place to start the character. From there let a relationship grow naturally over the course of the films. That'd also be a nice way to establish some sense of continuity between the films while still leaving things loose enough to let fans see things as they choose.
#166
Posted 16 September 2009 - 02:45 AM
So... what can "Q" be if he is not what he used to be?
He can be Peter Burton: The efficient, professional Quartermaster of Fleming's novels who appears to have no genuine relationship with agent 007. At the very least it's a good, if somewhat obvious, place to start the character. From there let a relationship grow naturally over the course of the films. That'd also be a nice way to establish some sense of continuity between the films while still leaving things loose enough to let fans see things as they choose.
I am in favour of this approach with the character. It's a nice character and I want Q back, but he is not as important as say, Alfred*, in the Batman movies.
* thanks for correcting, Mr Blofeld.
#167
Posted 16 September 2009 - 02:47 AM
Who's Albert?I am in favour of this approach with the character. It's a nice character and I want Q back, but he is not as important as say, Albert, in the Batman movies.
...
Ohhh, you mean Alfred!
(Somebody doesn't know their Batman... )
#168
Posted 16 September 2009 - 05:48 AM
#169
Posted 16 September 2009 - 09:01 AM
That will not happen now.I hope that they bring john clesse back but for moneypenny i have know idea
#170
Posted 16 September 2009 - 03:46 PM
Anyway, I think the trick is, to bring these characters back in a way where, there isn't so much of an emphasis on the matter. When Roger Moore was revealed as the new face of Bond in LALD, it was natural and business as usual unlike the emphatic filmic gestures made when introducing Lazenby.
With Q, I'd like for M to send Bond to Q branch for whatever reason to meet Major whoever and then Bond being smug, smarmy, frivolous (without overdoing it Moore/Brosnan style)nicknames Major whoever as Q.
Again, the way to do it imo, is to ensure the reintroduction of the characters aren't some poingnant spectacle.
#171
Posted 13 November 2009 - 05:09 AM
#172
Posted 16 November 2009 - 01:02 AM
I like Tyber's idea. In fact, wasn't that sort of how Q started out in the movies? Armourer gave Bond the ppk and left. Gave Bond the "nastly little present" in FRWL and by GF, Q seemed to be slightly irritated by Bond and then TB, it came full circle. Q had no time for Bond's infantile antics.
Anyway, I think the trick is, to bring these characters back in a way where, there isn't so much of an emphasis on the matter. When Roger Moore was revealed as the new face of Bond in LALD, it was natural and business as usual unlike the emphatic filmic gestures made when introducing Lazenby.
With Q, I'd like for M to send Bond to Q branch for whatever reason to meet Major whoever and then Bond being smug, smarmy, frivolous (without overdoing it Moore/Brosnan style)nicknames Major whoever as Q.
Again, the way to do it imo, is to ensure the reintroduction of the characters aren't some poingnant spectacle.
Agreed. Maybe introduce Q in the way that M acknowledged the Q-like Microchip guy in Casino Royale?
#173
Posted 16 November 2009 - 07:30 PM
I like Tyber's idea. In fact, wasn't that sort of how Q started out in the movies? Armourer gave Bond the ppk and left. Gave Bond the "nastly little present" in FRWL and by GF, Q seemed to be slightly irritated by Bond and then TB, it came full circle. Q had no time for Bond's infantile antics.
Anyway, I think the trick is, to bring these characters back in a way where, there isn't so much of an emphasis on the matter. When Roger Moore was revealed as the new face of Bond in LALD, it was natural and business as usual unlike the emphatic filmic gestures made when introducing Lazenby.
With Q, I'd like for M to send Bond to Q branch for whatever reason to meet Major whoever and then Bond being smug, smarmy, frivolous (without overdoing it Moore/Brosnan style)nicknames Major whoever as Q.
Again, the way to do it imo, is to ensure the reintroduction of the characters aren't some poingnant spectacle.
Agreed. Maybe introduce Q in the way that M acknowledged the Q-like Microchip guy in Casino Royale?
Better yet. Maybe the 3RD MADAGASCAN HENCHMAN ON THE RIGHT at the NAMBUTO EMBASSY should play the villain in BOND 23? Remember, nothing too overstated!
Edited by The Shark, 16 November 2009 - 07:31 PM.
#174
Posted 13 December 2009 - 06:57 AM
However, if they are reintroduced, I would like to suggest that Q and Moneypenny be brought in over several films. Q first since Mr. Tanner in the Craig films so far have him playing the part of M's aide. I would have Q introduced by someone not named Bond and M. What I mean is that Bond goes to Q branch on orders of M, and while he is getting his technical briefing from a random tech, the tech introduces Q to him. And after the mission, in the next film, have Q lecture Bond on returning his equipment in pristine order, and decides not to take the kid glove approach when it comes to Bond's equipment. Have Q do this on every mission so that there is some resemblance of continuity.
As for Moneypenny, I'm perfectly fine with having Mr. Tanner as M's aide. Bond doesn't really need to flirt in the office, and having a male aide there will really stem the sexual overtones a bit, at least compared to the previous Bonds.
As for the actor's in the parts, I would like to see Q as a man in his early fifties, and while that may be too old for a major, it does give him a bit of authority over the branch. As for Moneypenny, if I have no choice, I would like to see Samantha Bond back into the role. Mature enough to be a high ranking secretary, but old enough out of the role from the disaster that was DAD.
#175
Posted 13 December 2009 - 09:04 AM
It's not that unpopular, believe you me...I'm sorry for bringing up an old topic, but I just registered. Anyway, I just like to chime in and say that while I miss Q and Moneypenny, considering the fact that they were not needed in Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace, I don't think that having a Q and Moneypenny is just not needed right now. That may be an unpopular opinion, sure.
#176
Posted 13 December 2009 - 09:50 AM
Why? Because Q introduced the gadget factor that was an important element for the first 20 Bond films. But times have caught up with this - technical equipmen that seemed impossible in the last forty years now are available to anyone. Every spy TV show features at least one technical gimmick these days. Go to any electronics shop and you´ll be amazed what they offer.
So what can Q give Bond these days that is really surprising?
Huge problem, isn´t it? Maybe Q should be more of a weapons´ instructor like the Burton-Q as some here have suggested. Maybe Q should instruct Bond on fighting styles or the use of complicated computer stuff? Or he could be a kind of personal trainer for him - making him sweat, challenging him to develop more new fighting skills?
#177
Posted 13 December 2009 - 12:55 PM
I keep thinking Q has already returned. Q is for Quantum.
As for Moneypenny, even if she were not really needed as a PA, just the element of sexual banter would be enjoyed at the M briefings.
Still hight on the list to play Moneypenny would be
Rhona Mitra
or Helena Bonham Carter
#178
Posted 14 December 2009 - 05:27 AM
I guess to bring back Moneypenny is not the problem - bringing back Q is.
Why? Because Q introduced the gadget factor that was an important element for the first 20 Bond films. But times have caught up with this - technical equipmen that seemed impossible in the last forty years now are available to anyone. Every spy TV show features at least one technical gimmick these days. Go to any electronics shop and you´ll be amazed what they offer.
So what can Q give Bond these days that is really surprising?
Huge problem, isn´t it? Maybe Q should be more of a weapons´ instructor like the Burton-Q as some here have suggested. Maybe Q should instruct Bond on fighting styles or the use of complicated computer stuff? Or he could be a kind of personal trainer for him - making him sweat, challenging him to develop more new fighting skills?
I always see Q as a weapons instructor rather than an eccentric gadget-master anyway, so this approach would be fine with me.
#179
Posted 14 December 2009 - 06:59 PM
#180
Posted 17 December 2009 - 07:21 PM
Billie Piper, Freema Agyemen, Catherine Tate OR Karen Gillian?
I wouldn't mind the last three, but Piper is a big no no for me.