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[Blox]

Bond finesse: WELL BLOX WHAT WILL U SAY IF HE DOES TWO MORE? that wont be bowing out will it?

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I was referring to something Brosnan had said in an interview. Here's the link and quote:

http://tribute.ca/Tr...cover_story.htm

"As to Brosnan

[kevrichardson]

Originally posted by DLibrasnow


Well that's a sweeping generalization. Yes, the Saltzman bankruptcy did cause a hold up but there were other issues that held up production on TSWLM ("The Names McClory, Kevin McClory"). For a full rundown on why TSWLM took so long consult the excellent "Inside The Spy Who Loved Me" doc on the DVD.

I am fully aware of all the reasons behind the delay in filming The Spy .

[Kingdom Come]

A way to over come the time between Bond films would be if Eon had 4 writers on board - once filming ended on a new Bond film [straight away] 2 writers would then start on their film. Once that was completed the other 2 start on theirs.

[DLibrasnow]

I read an article in the early 1990s which stated that there was a cadre of four writers working on four seperate 007 scripts. One of the writers mentioned in the article was Michael France (whose name I knew at the time because of "Cliffhanger") and I have always wondered what happened to the other three screenplays -- anyone have any info?

[DLibrasnow]

Originally posted by Kingdom Come
A way to over come the time between Bond films would be if Eon had 4 writers on board - once filming ended on a new Bond film [straight away]  2 writers would then start on their film. Once that was completed the other 2 start on theirs.

You'd still have to wait three years because Brosnan wants that break between movies so he can pursue his other projects. You cannot blame the guy, eventually he will retire from the 007 role and he will have be able to show a body of non-Bond work.

[kevrichardson]

Originally posted by DLibrasnow
I read an article in the early 1990s which stated that there was a cadre of four writers working on four seperate 007 scripts. One of the writers mentioned in the article was Michael France (whose name I knew at the time because of "Cliffhanger") and I have always wondered what happened to the other three screenplays -- anyone have any info?

That is a interesting statement . Since i allways thought that TND and TWINE were in that pipeline .

[DLibrasnow]

Originally posted by kevrichardson
That is a interesting statement . Since i allways thought that TND and TWINE were in that pipeline .

I think you are correc t about TND since Fierstein certainly gave the impression at the time of release.

[thuffner]

Cool. Hopefully it is a better showing than DAD...

[Loomis]

Originally posted by Mourning Becomes Electra

I'm not asking for any violins for EON as hard workers but this conceit that they MUST work all the time and they OWE us around the clock vigiliance and constant flow of Bond is IMO silly.  

I don't say that Michael G. Wilson, Barbara Broccoli and others should be made to work relentlessly until they collapse and die of exhaustion, and I don't wish to come across as a petulant fanboy throwing a tantrum because the next film in his favourite franchise won't be ready when he wants it. On the other hand, we're talking about people who, by choice, are in the business of making the Bond films. I don't suggest that they owe us anything, merely that they should keep working away full-time at the jobs for which they are so handsomely rewarded. The Powers That Be and the so-called "Bond family" have long been used to producing a new Bond outing every two years, and I don't see why we should support the idea of longer breaks between films. A three-year gap does not mean that an extra year will be spent making a movie that will knock spots off its predecessors, just that there will be more time off. Can a break refresh filmmakers and enable them to return to work firing on all cylinders? Sure, but there's also much to be said for maintaining momentum by soldiering on and not stopping to tend the garden.

Originally posted by Kingdom Come

A way to over come the time between Bond films would be if Eon had 4 writers on board - once filming ended on a new Bond film [straight away] 2 writers would then start on their film. Once that was completed the other 2 start on theirs.

Great idea, Kingdom Come. The Bond people could so easily have had a script ready to go into production this year.

[DLibrasnow]

Originally posted by Loomis

Great idea, Kingdom Come. The Bond people could so easily have had a script ready to go into production this year.

A script without an actor to play the role.....interesting concept Loomis

[Loomis]

DLibrasnow, in another thread (http://forums.comman...30&pagenumber=2) you wrote that one of the problems with the series is that "everyone is out for themselves - and Pierce is one of the biggest culprits, if he really cared for the fans he would give us a Bond movie every two years instead of insisting on a three year break. WHO THE HELL DOES HE THINK HE IS.....
You know Sean Connery learned that the character of Bond was bigger than him when he tried to strong arm Cubby and Harry into making him a partner in the late 1960s. THEY SHOULD TEACH BROSNAN A LESSON and show him the door. The way he ignores the fans wishes would never have been tolerated under Cubbys watch!"

Which would seem to suggest that you and I are in agreement that they ought to be giving us a Bond film every two years (and that Brosnan ought to play ball, given that he's the current Bond).

[DLibrasnow]

I agree with you Loomis....But we have to face reality, and I understand where Pierce Brosnan is coming from...

[Blox]

PB & Eon will do what they please, and when these movies are released -- they will undoubtedly continue to make mountains of money.

[Roebuck]

Originally posted by DLibrasnow
I have always wondered what happened to the other three screenplays -- anyone have any info?

EON have a history of recycling ideas from early drafts into later movies. Unused elements from GoldenEye were incorporated into TWINE (the underground nuclear test facility and Caviar factory scenes). Action sequences Tom Mankiewicz conceived for Moonraker appeared in several of the later Moore films.

[kevrichardson]

Originally posted by Blox

I believe Brosnan is 50.  He will be 56 by the time # 22 is in the can. Some here may love films like Entrapment or older men in the role such as RM in AVTAK.  But others have to try and look past collagen injections, face lifts, tummy tucks, etc, while the heroine is bedding down with a Bond old enough to be her father.  Imo the character is best played when the actors are 30/40 something.  50s to 60s is pushing it.  I know its been done.  But imo the pictures are more fun when the actor playing the lead is in his physical prime.

This is about the most truthful statement that i have read in a long time. It goes right to the heart of what is right and wrong with James Bond . I found Entrapment to be rather corny , with ancient Sean Connery putting the moves on Zeta-Jones . Made one what to vomit , it just does not work or look that great . Perhaps the answer is in casting older actresss like Rene Russo . Which even the age in balance . Yet i dont that will happen since there is a great myth in Bond regarding women .

[Blox]

Kev: Perhaps the answer is in casting older actresss like Rene Russo . Which even the age in balance .

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Thats an interesting suggestion.

[BONDFINESSE 007]

well i think we can all rest easy with the realization that pierce is going to do 2 more and he can get his 6 and move on to other things, we can take that check to the bank, it wont bounce

[DLibrasnow]

Originally posted by BONDFINESSE 007
well i think we can all rest easy with the realization that pierce is going to do 2 more and he can get his 6 and move on to other things, we can take that check to the bank, it wont bounce

Well thats a little premature Bondfinesse. Although I am sure that he will do Bond 21 (and barring any major problems Bond 22), he has yet to sign on for another James Bond movie. In fact the only actor that (for sure) is signed for Bond 21 is John Cleese.

[Righty007]

John Cleese signed a 3 picture deal before 'Die Another Day'.

[DLibrasnow]

Originally posted by Righty007
John Cleese signed a 3 picture deal before 'Die Another Day'.

That is correct, he signed on for TWINE, DAD and Bond 21.

[Righty007]

I hope Cleese renews his contract after Bond 21 because I really like him as Q.

[BONDFINESSE 007]

Originally posted by DLibrasnow


Well thats a little premature Bondfinesse. Although I am sure that he will do Bond 21 (and barring any major problems Bond 22), he has yet to sign on for another James Bond movie. In fact the only actor that (for sure) is signed for Bond 21 is John Cleese.

its a tad bit, but i feel safe on it, its a curse my impatience

[Blox]

Bond finesse: "its a tad bit, but i feel safe on it, its a curse my impatience"

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We'll know when the studio issues a press release.

[DLibrasnow]

Originally posted by Blox

Dalton also felt "safe on it" for GE, so we'll know when MGM wants us to know.

Dalton left, he wasn't pushed....He decided that the six year wait was too much -- that wasn't MGM, that was what Dalton HIMSELF said about why HE decided to walk away from the role.

[Blox]

...there are conflicting accounts -- a lot of circumstances pointing in different directions.

[ChandlerBing]

You're absolutely right. This is the kind of news that people like Bondpurist refuse to believe.

[DLibrasnow]

Well all that would be fine and dandy -- except it was DALTON who said he was leaving because of the six year wait.

[ChandlerBing]

So, did he jump before he got pushed? Depends on whom you want to believe. If you are a Daltonite, you believe he was all good gracious and decided to leave on his own accord and that no negativity had anything to do with it. If you're like me, you know that MGM did not like Dalton's Bond at all, knowing full well he just was't catching on with the public, and that no new Bond would be authorized with Dalton in the lead.

[Blox]

...all we know for certain is that he left the series.

[DLibrasnow]

This is a debate that could go on and on because we simply don't know right now. Personally, although I am not a Daltonite (cannot stand LTK), I think he decided to leave of his own accord.

I think it's also interesting that Mike France said he had written GE for Dalton and had to do a rewrite for Brosnan when Dalton decided to leave and Pierce was brought on board.