
Guilty pleasures (or "bad" films you think are actually quite goo
#31
Posted 09 March 2003 - 09:19 AM
STAR WARS (all of them)
TOMB RAIDER (the 2nd one is comming our way!!!)
THE ROCK
THE FIFTH ELEMENT
JURSSIC PARC
AUSTIN POWERS
But I don't realy feel guilty for liking those films...
#32
Posted 10 March 2003 - 03:45 AM
Tomb Raider- Jolie makes the film enertaining.
Falling Down- I thought it was a good movie w/ solid acting.
X-Men-Did a good job translating the caracters onto the big screen. The sequel looks like it will be good, too.
#33
Posted 10 March 2003 - 09:13 PM
White Men Can't Jump-Wesley Snipes & Woody Harrelson
Money Train-Wesley Snipes & Woody Harrelson
The Three Musketeers-Kiefer Sutherland, Charlie Sheen
The Cowboy Way-Kiefer Sutherland, Woody Harrelson
#34
Posted 10 March 2003 - 11:48 PM
The one film where he just goes through the film with a reasonable accent.
Why does he endeavour to put ridiculous dumb accents into all his other roles? And does anyone actually find these accents humorous?
#35
Posted 11 March 2003 - 12:25 AM
X-Men 2 will rock...
Brian Cox as the villain, baby!
#36
Posted 11 March 2003 - 09:12 AM
#37
Posted 11 March 2003 - 05:44 PM
Originally posted by Icephoenix
Why should you? These arnt BAD films, these are all Blockbusters! This topic is about general bad films that you like.
I think that point has been lost somewhere along the line!
#38
Posted 15 March 2003 - 11:49 PM
LL Cool J is as watchable as always, while any movie with the gorgeous Rebecca Romijn-Stamos can't be all bad (although, admittedly, ROLLERBALL comes damn close). I like the chase in green "night vision", although I can't for the life of me figure out why McTiernan decided to shoot it that way and why it looks so grainy.
Apart from which, ROLLERBALL is worth seeing to find out what one of the most horrible endings in cinema history looks like.
#39
Posted 16 March 2003 - 01:28 AM
#40
Posted 11 March 2004 - 12:52 PM
Goodness me, what a hoot this film is! Sly mooches around moodily in a ridiculous bumfluff beard, huge spectacles and horrible late-70s clothes. Billy Dee Williams swears a lot. Nigel Davenport (father of potential James Bond Jack) shouts a lot. Lindsay Wagner has nothing to do but turn up on set, while Rutger Hauer gives us an angry freelance terrorist who for some unfathomable reason is deemed unemployable in the terror community after helping the Irish Republican Army blow up a department store in London (wouldn't that sort of thing look good on his CV, though? Still, we're asked to believe that he's become persona non grata among bombers and hijackers since women and children were killed in the attack - which makes about as much sense as the scene in which he's being hunted by Sly in a packed, darkened nightclub, and the latter has no idea what he looks like apart from a crude artist's impression yet manages to spot him immediately).
Did I mention the late 1970s? Well, the truly excruciating synth score (by Keith Emerson, of all people) won't let you forget for an instant when this picture was made.
Let it be said, though, that NIGHTHAWKS is hugely entertaining if you're in the right, silly mood (although one gets the frustrating impression that it might well have been a really terrific, solid thriller with a couple of script polishes to remove some of the grossest insults to the viewer's intelligence, and with a decent director - the concept is good, and the cast is excellent). Some of the dialogue and performances will have you rolling on the floor (which may not have been what the filmmakers intended), while there's also fun to be had spotting the elements nicked by the folks who did DIE HARD. Hauer's character and acting may also put one in mind of Max Zorin, and I'd be interested to know whether he was considered for that role.
Strange trivia note/query: watching NIGHTHAWKS on TV many years ago, I distinctly remember "Brown Sugar" by The Rolling Stones playing during the disco scene. Seeing it on DVD the other day, though, "Brown Sugar" had been replaced by some other song. Anyone know the story behind the change? A rights issue, perhaps?
#41
Posted 11 March 2004 - 01:36 PM
It is a great score and I have the LP of it. Emerson has done a few, if a little obscure, soundtracks, but if anyone is into ELP they are worth getting.Did I mention the late 1970s? Well, the truly excrutiating synth score (by Keith Emerson, of all people) won't let you forget for an instant when this picture was made.
Loomis, how naughty of you not to even mention Persis Khambatta who played the main female terrorist (if I remember correctly). Of couse, she is the one with the bald head in the first Star Trek movie.
She still looked stunning with hair in this movie.

#42
Posted 11 March 2004 - 02:03 PM
#43
Posted 11 March 2004 - 02:05 PM
#44
Posted 11 March 2004 - 03:13 PM
One of my favorite bad movies is 1989's THE PUNISHER starring Dolph Lungren. It's been called awful by just about everybody but I disagree; The plot is tight, it moves forward, there is humour, a great Yakuza bitch villian who makes Lucy Lui (in KillBill) look pretty tame and some good 'ol


#45
Posted 11 March 2004 - 03:17 PM
#46
Posted 11 March 2004 - 03:32 PM
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What's the secret Kevin?

Seriously, that incongruity that's one of the reasons this film is a guilty pleasure...it's a bad film that I find enormously entertaining.

#47
Posted 11 March 2004 - 04:44 PM
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Corny, cliched, but still guilty pleasure fun.
#48
Posted 11 March 2004 - 05:28 PM
Well, I think Khambatta's performance is the best in the film (while that may read like a backhanded compliment, let me state that I'm a huge Stallone fan [the man has more star quality in his little finger than most of today's so-called A-list actors have in their entire, well, bodies, IMO], and that I also like Billy Dee Williams, Nigel Davenport and Rutger Hauer) - a real shame, though, that her character is so underwritten and underused. And, yes, she was stunning. What a tragedy that she died so young.Loomis, how naughty of you not to even mention Persis Khambatta who played the main female terrorist (if I remember correctly). Of couse, she is the one with the bald head in the first Star Trek movie.
She still looked stunning with hair in this movie.
#49
Posted 11 March 2004 - 07:19 PM
ENTRAPMENT (1999)
FORCE 10 FROM NAVERONE (1978)
#50
Posted 11 March 2004 - 09:34 PM
1)Porky's - yes before American Pie, this was it.
2) Dr. Detroit - Dan Ackroyd has a crime fighting pimp with a metallic hand and a speech impediment
3) Sheena - Come on , okay bad acting, but believe this was the film that had exotic women and tanya roberts - yowsers forget stacey sutton.
4) Big Bad Mama -1 and 2 - Angie Dickinson and her country crime family
more to come.
#51
Posted 11 March 2004 - 09:40 PM
#52
Posted 11 March 2004 - 10:35 PM
See, that film isn't a guilty pleasure to me, it's a great film period. All the things that you find cheezy and unrealistic, I've enjoyed. Let's break it down:Caught up with another old guilty pleasure recently (once again, a Stallone flick), NIGHTHAWKS (1981).
STALLONE- Probably the best acting of his career w/ the exception of his Hoffa-esque character in F.I.S.T. Stallone actually underplays the role of "Deke" DaSilva. This was probably the only Stallone film that I wished I'd seen when it was released.
BILLY DEE WILLIAMS- He and Stallone have a decent rapport. Granted, he's the token Negro of this production but he's effective early on(the raid in the Bronx) and the scene after he get's sliced works IMO. Doesn't have that much to do and was probably able to jump right into production for STAR WARS: TESB. Hey, he was THE Black actor of the seventies with sex-appeal (sorry Jim Brown). Second billing and a nice paycheck in a cool thriller. We should all be that fortunate.
RUTGER HAUER- Pre-BLADE RUNNER, this is the film that made Rutger "the man" in many eyes. A terrorist, similar (and I'm sure based on) Carlos "The Jackal." A man who wants to be a celeb. The "make me beautiful" line with the plastic surgeon, revealed all you truly needed to know about the character. I'm sure he got the Roy Batty role based on his performance in NIGHTHAWKS. "You may drop the baby DaSilva but not the note," has got to be one of the coldest lines from that era.
LINDSAY WAGNER-Yeah, two days work and fourth billing on the credits. Only Brando got a better deal for SUPERMAN. She plays Stallone's fashion designing ex-girlfriend, who's propositioned by future pørn stud Jamie Gillis(!) Again, just cash the check and keep it moving.
THE CITY- My city, NYC in all it's late-70s grime and glamour. The fashion, locations and soundtrack(on BackStreet Records and Tapes) truly encapsulate the era. From the nightclubs to the hijacking of the Tramway, you can't say that flick was shot in Canada! BTW, the bodega(grocery store) where Wulfgar operates out of is 6 blocks from where I live(East Harlem).
THE SOUNDTRACK- Yeah, it's kitschy and "dated" but so's the film. Again, it's right for the era, where everyone what trying to get down with disco. Loomis, I had no idea that Keith Emerson was the E in ELP. Note: he also did the soundtrack for the IRON MAN cartoon that Marvel ran about 4-5 years ago. Don't like the score? Hey, I guess Giorgio Moroder wasn't available.
Yeah, that was "Brown Sugar" you heard in the background. It's on the DVD in it's proper place. Somebody tell me what the deal is with removing songs from films. I head that was a big thing with the original video release of SIXTEEN CANDLES.
I'm sorry Loomis, this film resonates with me and remains the only STALLONE film that I own(I'll get COPLAND at some point). JUDGE DREDD should be added to the list, but it's too disappointing to be a guilty pleasure. The only joy one gets is imitating Rob Schneider-imitating Stallone with his "Eye am th' luuaaawwwwhhh" bit.
Damn, I almost forgot.
PERSIS KHAMBATTA- The hottest celluliod terrorist I've ever seen(Liz Hurley in PASSENGER 57 doesn't cut it). Yes, 'ol girl from STAR TREK:TMP is back, with hair, high fashion duds and a gun. Yeah, she would've been the "it" girl of the 80s if it hadn't been for MEGAFORCE(add that one to the truly bad movies thread). Rest in piece girl.

#53
Posted 11 March 2004 - 11:21 PM

Hudson Hawk: This film is actually qwuite good and was horribly advertised as an action film, which it isn't. It was made probably ten years ahead of its time, Br5uce Willis is a funny, charismatic lead and the story is goofy and entertaining.
#54
Posted 11 March 2004 - 11:38 PM
Major Payne. Damon Wayans plays the drill sargeant to a hilt, and even the kids in this film are great. One of the most overlooked comedies ever.
#55
Posted 11 March 2004 - 11:49 PM
"And he was like, Payne, I can't feel my legs."Another one I enjoy immensely:
Major Payne. Damon Wayans plays the drill sargeant to a hilt, and even the kids in this film are great. One of the most overlooked comedies ever.
"And I'm like; they ain't there!"
I forgot about this film!
#56
Posted 12 March 2004 - 01:00 AM
Big trouble in little China - yes once upon a time this was my movie, I didn't care how ridiculous it was I thought David Lopan was so cool, and my cousin always pretend to inflate himself like one of his henchmen.
wraith - yes remember that movie with Randy Travis, Charlie Sheen, and Ron Howard's brother. The movie about a ghost who comes in a form of phantom race car driver and his supernatural car. In order to take revenge he races against the people who was responsible for his death. The just had some stupid henchmen who gets high of drinking lighter fluid.
Breakin Electric Boogooloo
Beat street
Rappin' Hood with Mario Van Peebles and
The Last Dragon (characters/actors Bruce Leroy, Sho-nuff, and Vanity)
Maxium Overdrive
Police Academy movies
Charles Bronson cop movies (Kinjite, death wish 3)
China Obrien Movies and the some of the other Cynthia Rothrock films
tiger Claws is my favorite because it had Bolo Yeung in it though it was weird seeing Bolo Yeung in a strip club. It just doesn't seem right.
Legend - This movie was the reason why I like Brian Ferry and Tangerine Dream. tim curry is awesome in that movie as lord darkness. I love how tom cruise almost get his hiney whipped in that movie.
Moving Violations
I come in peace
Jean Claude Van Damme - Hard Target, Cyborg,and Timecop (Time cop is my favorite not because the man did a mid-air split in his undies)
As for Anthony Hopkins, his worst film em I don't know what could top
Free Jack, but i like that movie
Canonball Run II (Any menudo fans here? and how many veterans actors from the Bond films was in that movie)
Urban Cowboy
National Lampoons european vacation
Little Shop of Horrors (musical)- it's shame that movie kind of traumatize me of dentists for a while, but know the song.
To end this list
Swamp thing and Swamp thing 2 - come on people be cracking on these two, I liked it, I love Adrienne Barbeau, and Louis Jordan - I love the second one.
Alien Nation - with James Caan, I love that movie it's consider awful but it's great.
#57
Posted 12 March 2004 - 02:06 AM
Totally agree with everything you say, Gee Dubbaya. Loved the idea of using old songs to time their "jobs."OK, time to ruin my reputation.
Hudson Hawk: This film is actually qwuite good and was horribly advertised as an action film, which it isn't. It was made probably ten years ahead of its time, Br5uce Willis is a funny, charismatic lead and the story is goofy and entertaining.
#58
Posted 12 March 2004 - 02:30 AM
You know Ice-T was in BREAKIN' TWO and did all the rhymes for RAPPIN'. He's was part of Canon's stable back in the mid-eighties. Some of his rhymes and compositions were peppered throughout MISSING IN ACTION.Breakin Electric Boogooloo
Rappin' Hood with Mario Van Peebles and
Maxium Overdrive
tiger Claws is my favorite because it had Bolo Yeung in it though it was weird seeing Bolo Yeung in a strip club. It just doesn't seem right.
Moving Violations
Ah yes, MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE. Directed by Mister King himself, who proclaimed his new movie would "scare the hell out of you." I've never been able to look at the Green Goblin the same way.
Bolo Yeung, apparently is the most popular performer in Martial Arts(at least among the straight-to-video crowd). Hard to believe he's been doing his thing since ENTER THE DRAGON.
MOVING VIOLATIONS - A bowling ball lands on an elderly gentleman's crotch. Foul but funny in the context of this flick.
I've gotta add TOP SECRET! to this list. "Thees eez not Mel Torme!"
#59
Posted 12 March 2004 - 02:34 AM
-The Mummy Returns
-Star Wars: Attack of the Clones
-Desperado (not sure if this counts)
-Batman Returns
-Wayne's World 2
-Cleopatra (actually one of my favorite films of all time)
-First Knight
There's a lot more, but I'll have to think of them later...
#60
Posted 12 March 2004 - 03:08 AM
I think Batman Returns is one of the greatest films ever, and not because it has the hero or anything like that. I thoroughly enjoy how dark this film is, the box office wasn't as nice as it could be, because this is indeed a dark and nasty film, the characters are cruel and vicious, but I think all of them are portrayed excellently. Elfman's score accompanies the film magnificently. The music in this film is truly the best.-Batman Returns
A fantastic film.