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why did gearbox make a mistake with nightfire???


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#1 BONDFINESSE 007

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Posted 30 January 2003 - 11:25 AM

i just wanted to know why it is in the PC VERSION of nightfire that when james bond is dressed up say in the last half of rendezvous his hands match up....another words you see the cuffs and all, but in missions like high treason the cut scenes dont match up with his hands ,he is still dressed up the whole game he is dressed up. i would have thought that gearbox would have paid more attention to detail then that, thats just lazy detail to me and the console version got it right, everything matches up with each mission and you know he is dressed up because on the island getaway u can hear those hard heels as in dress shoes when he walks, man gearbox pay attention next time, can someone explain this mistake???????

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Posted 30 January 2003 - 11:31 AM

maybe they had to rush to finish the game, happens all the time...or they just suck...

#3 PaulZ108

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Posted 31 January 2003 - 01:28 AM

Probably just the game being rushed. I've played some of Gearbox's other work and I think they're very competent, but Nightfire screams rushed development and low budget. The later levels are thrown together and bugs that would have been easily fixable during a normal development time came shipped with the game.

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Posted 31 January 2003 - 02:11 AM

for some reason i thought the pc and console versions were on the same time table, but it is clear they were not, and its a shame they had to rush and screw up the product

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Posted 31 January 2003 - 09:35 PM

I noticed this too. In the console version sometimes Bond wears gloves (both in the game and the cut scenes)

But in the PC version sometimes Bond wears gloves during the cut scenes, and not during the actual game !

Really sucks !

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Posted 01 February 2003 - 06:15 AM

Didnt gearbox use ingame cinematics for Half-Life? (like making a map for a movie..) ?

Is night fire their first out game cinematic game? The only other games by gear box I know of is the half-life series. :)

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Posted 01 February 2003 - 06:52 AM

You know, I'd like to look at this from a different angle.

What Gearbox did is brilliant. Why? They made the first (?) Bond PC game. Okay, it was rushed, but it was well received financially. Next time, they'll probably get a bigger budget, a better time frame, and put out a better game.

Why did they do well? I feel the ensured another Bond PC game.

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Posted 01 February 2003 - 07:47 AM

on www.gamewinners.com/doswin/ , they say there's more than 1 pc game from the bond series... but I havent seen any other than Night Fire (for the pc.. I've seen plenty of bond games on the console..)

I agree with Blue eyes. I know to some people details are everything.. but when ur dodging bullets.. you dont really pay attention to your cuffs..

If you really want to be picky. Notice the screw in the secret bunker, its inside out. :) :)

The only really neat thing I did notice is that the watch actually works :) (well. i havent checked if the time was right.. but the hands move..)

Im glad to see this detail! We can finally figgure out what Bond's off hours are :) :)

Originally posted by: Blue Eyes
Why did they do well? I feel the ensured another Bond PC game.


Really? I thought the game had a somewhat 'its done' feeling to it :) Well.. not that I'd turn down a pc sequel of this game :)

Drake dies.. Rook is dead.. Kiko too.. so.. .. its not like we have a Harry Osborn to follow in his father's footsteps... :/

But.. Then again.. it aint a movie.. Its bond.. a sequel doesnt necessarily mean part 2... it could be a hole other story :)

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Posted 01 February 2003 - 08:13 AM

Exactly. And I think they've introduced the idea of a Bond PC Game, and it was well received. Next time, they put in more effort, put out a kick **** demo and they have huge potential.

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Posted 01 February 2003 - 05:47 PM

well they were going to release the world is not enough for pc but that one died

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Posted 01 February 2003 - 07:00 PM

Originally posted by superracer0022
well they were going to release the world is not enough for pc but that one died

why did it die i wonder? cause i really enjoy the world is not enough on playstation, even to this day

#12 mrdefender

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Posted 01 February 2003 - 08:16 PM

It died cause they wanted to see how well it would do on a console and leave the faithfull pc customers hanging. :/

Its not the first time a pc game was booted on a console.

I know that Gunmetal was for pc but I only saw it on for XBOX @ EB. Buffy The Vampire Slayer for XBOX was originally for PC aswell..

:)

I can understand why they release on consoles instead of pc.. but they should say something on their website about the posibility of being transfered to another platform.. so we dont get our hopes up and 3 days before its release it gets transfered to another platform :)

It would be nice if they could release it on every active platform (as in the are still 'kicking' the video game generation..). Then everyone's happy :) ... The devellopers would be dead tired but the players would bow to the gods for this :)

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Posted 02 February 2003 - 01:34 AM

well lets just hope and pray, the next bond game on the pc is way better and that reminds me, i guess we have a new one coming out this year since it seems they are puting them out now ever year AUF CAME OUT IN THE FALL OF 201 AND NITEFIRE CAME OUT IN THE FALL OF 202 SO LETS HOPE THATS MEANS FALL OF 203 WE GET ANOTHER

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Posted 02 February 2003 - 02:47 AM

Never hurts to hope :)

I hope that more than one Bond PC game comes out this year..

and.. emm.. WITH VEHICLES!!!!!

I just gotta take his BMW for a spin ! :)

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Posted 02 February 2003 - 03:15 AM

we will have to develop a wish list for what we would want in the new pc bond one thing vehicals definatly, even have them in multiplayer like they do in halo

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Posted 03 February 2003 - 04:17 AM

Halo 1 (Combat Evolved) is comming out on pc this summer (well.. u know how release dates are...). Apparently, its gonna be the exact same game but for pc :)

Yay!

That game looked awesome.

I'm still shocked about Microsoft going into the console buisness... They really want to get their hands on everything related to computers.. dont they... :)

Ok.. Wish List for PC Night Fire 2...

Vehicles
Vehicles
Vehicles
Vehicles
Longer SP Campaign
Vehicles
Ability to hold all weapons (like in mp).
Console weapons.. (the golden gun was on console I believe..).
Oh. Can't forget those vehicles :)

#17 fulgentius

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Posted 03 February 2003 - 09:21 AM

hey mrdefender,

several Bond games have been released for the PC indeed... however this was in the 80's ! They made Licence to Kill, A View to a Kill, even Goldfinger and the Spy Who Loved Me... Many of these games were not good but Licence to Kill was great.

So Nightfire is NOT the first Bond game for the PC; however it's true that it's the first PC CD game...

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Posted 04 February 2003 - 12:12 AM

I never said it, night fire, was the first bond game..

I just said I havent seen any other bond games. Mostlikely due to the fact it was in the 80's (as u mentioned).. would probably mean it was a dos game... which is imposible to find these days... well.. I havent seen any dos games in a loooonnnnngggg time

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Posted 04 February 2003 - 03:52 AM

you know what else they messed up on? in the console version bond holds his p99 in just one hand, but gearbox got it right and bond holds it with both hands and so this is why i am peeved at the console version >i am like do u guys look at pierce and see him hold a gun?....he uses two hands.........i know i have to much time on my hands lol

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Posted 04 February 2003 - 06:06 AM

You'd think he'd need only one hand... CSI explains that people use 2 hands with a gun for better accuracy..

You'd think that someone who actually has a license to kill would have good aim.. Though.. some guns need 2 hands.. I'm guessing anything above a pistol. :/

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Posted 04 February 2003 - 08:47 AM

A lot of guns do. It's good with a pistol, for better accuary. And when you have people running at you, you need that accuracy.

Anything that is automatic you'll need the exta hand otherwise you'll start shooting the sky.

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Posted 04 February 2003 - 07:51 PM

what makes a gun 'automatic' ... ?? All guns need you to pull the trigger.. :/

I'm afraid im not versed in the art of fire arms... :)

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Posted 21 February 2003 - 04:45 AM

[dream]How about a Goldeneye Special Edition for PC with heaps of extras and updated graphics. That games rules and still owns today. Extras should include more levels from other bond games, more characters, and a lan option. PLus whatever else they want to wows up with[/dream]

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Posted 21 February 2003 - 05:23 AM

do you mean an actual game by ea or a mod for nightfire?

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Posted 21 February 2003 - 05:42 AM

I could see this as another game.. im having a problem seeing it as a mod (though I've seen plenty of good mods out there.. ).

But a golden eye game sounds too big to be a 'mod' (maybe a TC? (mod but its total game conversion into whatever.).

I liked the movie but I had the n64 game but havent played it much. Was more into zelda majora's mask and mario64. (there's another thread on here with what happend to my n64.. basicly, I had it for a week before it shorted out so I couldnt try the other games..)

I would love to see the golden gun (I heard its a awesome weapon in GE64).

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Posted 21 February 2003 - 05:48 AM

oh the memories of goldeneye, yeah the golden gun was awesome but it only had one shot then you have to reload but it was one shot kills but would ea be allowed to make a goldeneye for pc if rare created the game?

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Posted 21 February 2003 - 05:27 PM

The way I understand the game creation/developping industry (how games are made, and not the final product)...

Wouldn't ea only need to buy the rights for another bond game from MGM? Even if its rare that made the golden eye game.. This would be another game on the same theme (Bond).

There are many star trek games out there from many different companies (though these days its all activision.. ). I'm pretty sure they only needed to get permition (i.e buy a contract) to make a star trek based game.

I think its the same with movies. If you want to make a movie out of a book, you'd need the author's (if still alive, if not, I believe it goes to his family) permission to do it.

So MGM has the permission from who ever wrote the bond books (im afraid I don't know his/her name). Now the games get permission from MGM (who got it from the author) to make a game.

Chances are that they (in this case, if its EA who makes a GE game) would work with Rare on this project. Depending if EA is smart (it would be a good idea to work with someone who also made a popular game)...

I'm guessing they would have to work together.. Like the N64 GE game looked like most of the movie was in there (from what a friend tells me). .. So if EA made a GE game aswell.. they'd have to work on some of the same aspects as the n64 version.

Like, lets say, if N64 GE followed the complete movie (as in, you would actually be 'playing' the movie), then EA would kinda cross paths with that game too.. (cause if its to be based on GE.. and rare made GE to be like the movie.. then where does this leave EA?).

I've decided to stop now.. cause I don't want to get ahead anyone.
actually, I just lost myself in here.. so if you can understand it.. good for u :)

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Posted 21 February 2003 - 06:14 PM

i dont think i could see ea making goldeneye because they would probably feel that it has already been done and not bother and also they have recently only done original stories not based on the movies, by the way has anybody heard about the release of the nightfire sdk?

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Posted 22 February 2003 - 03:18 AM

i just hope the next bond kicks butt, a longer greater game, that puts the industry on its ear

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Posted 22 February 2003 - 04:38 AM

yeah, if ea and gearbox would release the sdk for nightfire we could make that game so much better