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[Kara Milovy]

Originally posted by mkkbb
Some pretty obvious ones everyone has overlooked:

The film centers around Bond, which coincidentaly does DN, FRWL, GF, TB... ...GE, TND and TWINE

There is a villain intent on causing chaos

M is in this film, as is Moneypenny.

Thanks. It's about time someone pointed that out.

[WhiteKnightBond]

I am watching FRWL right now, and I noticed something of a homage that I haven't seen anyone talking about before. When Tatiana and James first meet each other, she says "My friends call me Tatiana." Bond then replies,"My friends call me James Bond." THis is the exact exchange that happens when Jinx and BOnd first meet in Cuba in DAD! Had anyone noticed this before?

[Mister Asterix]

Originally posted by WhiteKnightBond
I am watching FRWL right now, and I noticed something of a homage that I haven't seen anyone talking about before. When Tatiana and James first meet each other, she says "My friends call me Tatiana." Bond then replies,"My friends call me James Bond." THis is the exact exchange that happens when Jinx and BOnd first meet in Cuba in DAD! Had anyone noticed this before?

Then you apparently haven't read many of my posts in homage threads. I brought this up right after the trailer came out.

[tofu 007]

yup after watching FRWL a while ago i noticed that too.. it's nice to see all the FRWL homages in DAD...

[jim74454]

Originally posted by Mansfield 005


Actually, it was Thunderball.  The line in TND was an homage to TB also.

Actually, if you read Ian Flemings' books, he always sleeps with a gun under his pillow.

[jim74454]

Originally posted by tofu 007
yup after watching FRWL a while ago i noticed that too.. it's nice to see all the FRWL homages in DAD...

Well FRWL was Tamahori's favorite.

Here is another:

Bond turning Asian in YOLT conversly similar to Moon turning White in DAD.

[DLibrasnow]

While some of these are obviously true homage's, it's amazing how far some people are stretching the line here. I am guessing that you could possibly find homages in every frame of DAD if you looked hard enough.
Let's see....Bond has a scene with Moneypenny, there is a scene in Q's lab, he drinks martini's...etc, etc...

[homerjbond]

How about the scorpion reference in DAD's torture scene to DAF and Dr. Tynan?

[DLibrasnow]

Kind of topic, but which version of the DAF scorpion scene do people prefer? The original shot version where they stick it down the dentists throat or the reshot version that ran in the theaters. The original version is on the DAF DVD, and i kinda prefer it!

[jwheels]

Dr. No (1962) - Jinx (Halle Berry) walking out of the sea in a bikini, wearing a white belt and a diving knife.
From Russia with Love (1963) - The shoe with the poison-tipped blade is seen in Q's station laboratory. There is a knife concealed in a briefcase. In the ice palace sequence, there is a game board (the chess match). Enemy spies are behind a one-way mirror in a hotel room with cameras. Graves' engineer is seen holding the Icarus control and petting it like it is a cat.
Goldfinger (1964) - Jinx is nearly cut with a laser in Mr. Kil's laboratory. The rest of the fight scene is also a tribute. Bond once again drives a gadget-laden Aston Martin, specifically with a passenger ejector seat. The new Q comments that, as he learned from his predecessor, "I never joke about my work, 007." The scene where Bond and Graves fence for money, only to see Bond up the stakes for one of Graves' diamonds, is suggestive of the golf match between Bond and Auric Goldfinger. The golf match had originally been for money, until Bond throws down a gold brick to "up the stakes". Bond is threatened with death in a depressurizing plane.
Thunderball (1965) - the jet-pack in Q's workshop. Bond uses a pen-like underwater breathing system. After Bond comes through the window of the medical facility in Cuba, he grabs a few grapes as he did before making his exit from a room in the medical center in Thunderball.
You Only Live Twice (1967) - Little Nellie can be seen in the background of Q's lab. Scenes of the Icarus unfolding in space are shown on screens in the Ice Palace. Jinx descends from the ceiling of the fake diamond mine on a rope system similar to that of the ninjas in the volcano crater lair. The name of the ship Bond is on: the HMS Tenby. The use of Japanese swords in the films. Bond's death is faked (or exaggerated) in both films to free up 007's maneuverability
On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969) - "OHMSS" written on a CD on Moneypenny's desk as she types a report at the end of the film. Bond escapes from another huge avalanche.
Diamonds Are Forever (1971) - while fencing with Bond, Graves says, "Well, diamonds are for everyone." Much of the plot includes diamonds. A large satellite is uncovered in space and has the power to harness the sun's rays and project them as a fine laser to destroy any given target. In a magazine ad for Gustav Graves' diamond company, the caption at the bottom says, "Diamonds are forever." A villain changes his appearance.
Live and Let Die (1973) - The laser causes row upon row of explosions across a vegetated area, in this case detonating thousands of land mines, and is reminiscent of the extermination of Kananga's poppy fields. Bond uses the same revolver used on the island of St. Monique.
Man with the Golden Gun, The (1974) - The corridors in the secret area of the Gene Technology department in the Cuban hospital contain rotating mirrors and objects, much like Scaramanga's Fun Palace. The Field office of MI6 is on a ship. Bond retrieves a diamond from Jinx's navel (bullet in the belly-dancer's navel). There is a solar-powered superweapon.
Spy Who Loved Me, The (1977) - Graves uses a Union Jack parachute. The Ice Palace resembles in some ways Stromberg's Atlantis hideout.
Moonraker (1979) - Moon's hovercraft falls down by a large waterfall in a manner similar to Jaws' boat going over the Igua

[mattbowyer]

The ring uses a 'solex agitator' - from the man with the golden gun.

[jim74454]

Originally posted by mattbowyer
The ring uses a 'solex agitator' - from the man with the golden gun.

Actually it is a sound agitator in DAD

[Icephoenix]

A small one but...the barrels in the back of the plane look exactly like the ones from Goldeneye, just green.

[brendan007]

did anyone else notice the rising rope from Octopussy that Q 'had trouble keepin it up' in the Q scene of DAD.

[JBond007]

Other Homages
1) Laser watch from GE
2) Music straight after Bond falls from the glass floor is a homage to OHMSS, with the descending passage. Listen to "Whiteout" track.
3) the cuban secret clinic is very much like the OHMSS clinic, complete with hypnotic voices and strange colours.
4) Graves say's "Diamonds are for everyone". sounds like "DAF"
5) Music from TWINE reused!
6) secret passage in cuba clinic sort of like the Octopussy 'push the secret button open the secret door'.

[jamesmarinos]

Because of the sad departure of Desmond Lewenim did they put a note at the end of the film saying, "In loving Memory" or somthing like that?
I would have thought that if tribute should be paid it should be to the great gadget master.

[JBond007]

noooooo, nothing at all.

[marktmurphy]

Bond meeting Jinx on the beach is just like that bit from NSNA where he meets Fatima (only with less funny lines).
Bond has a training session in which he loses. He dismisses the loss afterwards as not a mortal wound but a an injury, as in NSNA.
Bond plays a dangerous game with the (younger) villain in which pain is the penalty for losing, as in NSNA.
Bond is looking a bit old and has dodgy hair, as in NSNA.
etc, etc.

[DLibrasnow]

Yes I think there were a couple of nods to NSNA as you mentioned above. Now that NSNA belongs to MGM I think they are making a conscious effort to recognize it .

[1q2w3e4r]

Here's two I reckon no one's got

When Bond meets his contact in Cuba, the talk about the Delectados is code. It's the same as Bond talk to Kerim's son about borrowing a match and using a lighter instead, until they go wrong. It ends with Bond saying they never go out.

Also, Bond ask's for his tailor to be sent up. In Diamond's he tells Tiffany that "I know a good tailor in Hong Kong"

[DLibrasnow]

Excellent catch on the tailor, clearly that is a reference....

[AlwaysanAston]

Did anyone catch the revolving mirrors when Bond enters the secret passage in the Cuban lab? Right from MWTGG..Scaramanga's Fun House. Also, on the DVD for TWINE is a tribute to Desmond.

The second viewing of this movie makes a world of difference. Not so many cringes. Except for the para-surfing off the glacier. I don't think I will ever like that.

[Wade]

Originally posted by DLibrasnow
Kind of topic, but which version of the DAF scorpion scene do people prefer? The original shot version where they stick it down the dentists throat or the reshot version that ran in the theaters. The original version is on the DAF DVD, and i kinda prefer it!

I much prefer the original version. I like my villains ruthless with a hint of sarcasm, rather than goofy.

[Wade]

The whole scene with the contact in Cuba was very reminiscent of the Kerim Bey sequences in FRWL. And as far as DAF is concerned, when Bond is reading about Graves in the in-flight magazine on the British Airways flight, the headline of the article starts out "Diamonds are forever ..." And the Chinese agents behind the mirror in the hotel room, filming Bond with a foreign female agent ... strictly FRWL.

[DLibrasnow]

Yes, the Chinese agents filming Bond behind the mirror is my favorite homage.

[B007GLE]

Here's one I didn't see mentioned.

The glass floor in Graves' office that Bond shatters and escapes through: Is that Willard White's floor under which he kept his toy oil rigs and simbols of other interests?

[DLibrasnow]

I think it did look somewhat similar

[HowiePussy]

DIamonds are Forever: bond says - "Let's get down to business"
Die ANother Day: Bond says: "Let's get down to business"

[1q2w3e4r]

Peaceful Fountains says "Lie on the bed face down."

Pat Fearing in Thunderball. "Lie on the bench face down please."

Well at least I got the impression it was deliberate.

[White Persian]

I'm intrigued by the bizarrely missing homage!

I find it almost incomprehensible that, in the twentieth Bond, bristling with nods and winks to classic Bond moments, there's NO casino/gambling scene!

I know that Tamahori has said publicly that he finds it boring to see Bond going to a casino or to the opera (!?), so I suppose it's absence is to be expected, but does anyone know if a casino scene was ever scripted?