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[Tiin007]

This likely means Craig will be returning for Bond 25 (after all, why sign a one-picture distribution deal if there will be a new actor and contract negotiations could stall things after just his first film?). I'm very pleased with this news. 

 

I wouldn't even mind if EON took an extended break after Bond 25 to regroup and plan the next actor's era with a bit more foresight. I don't mind longer gaps in between actors, but it's the gaps during an actor's tenure which irritate me. The Craig era feels like such wasted potential. Let's hope EON take the necessary time before Bond #7 to ensure that his era is not littered with extended breaks every film or two. 

[Odd Jobbies]

Annapurna would most likely use Kathryn Bigelow as bait - no bad thing. If her new film Detroit does business it'd be an attractive proposition. They also have relationships with prestige directors Andrew Dominik, David O. Russell and PT Anderson - wet dream Bond directors in my book (particularly the latter) and an unlikely prospect, but an outside chance if Annapurna did Bond.

 

Or they could go the Terminator Genisys/Game of Thrones route and get an established tv director. Didn't pan out too well for that movie, but there's plenty of great tv directors out there; I'd be curious to see John Dahl, or Vincenzo Natali's Bond.

 

However, the most attractive deal for me is Warner Bros, but only if it means Nolan directing. If this were a long term deal i'd guess that'd be the front runner. However, this one-movie thing i'm reading about is odd. Either the studios don't want to be tied into something until they know who the next Bond is, or Eon don't want a studio interfering with the re-casting and want this gap to re-cast, before entering a longer term deal! Just my guess, but what the frak do i know!

[DavidJones]

I think the one-film deal is clever. It means that the winning bidder has to impress with Bond 25. If it does, Eon may offer them a longer term deal. If not, they will be out.

[Dustin]

Of course any studio after BOND 25 will want to land a success. But I think it's by now obvious this will be Craig's last one. If a studio agrees to a two-or-more deal they will want to have a say in the next actor taking over. That's perhaps not what Eon is prepared to put up with - even though eventually there has to be a studio for BOND 26 and they have to be fine with Eon's choice.

Another thing I just read that may figure into the whole complex is the gap until fresh productions are cleared for streaming. There is some movement on that front and Warner is supposedly inclined to agree to considerable changes in step with installing a new premium service that would allow to show films in home entertainment a mere two weeks after premiere. As this is a concern for the very near future it could well affect BOND 25 and will surely be already in place in time for BOND 26.

[sharpshooter]

This likely means Craig will be returning for Bond 25 (after all, why sign a one-picture distribution deal if there will be a new actor and contract negotiations could stall things after just his first film?). I'm very pleased with this news. 

Completely agree with you here. A one picture deal points to Craig coming back for one last film. I'll take that - especially considering how hard it's been to get films off the ground with all of these delays. Five films is a good number. It's what Connery was originally going to end at. In an ideal world, Bond 25 would be coming out around the same time as Anthony Horowitz's second Bond book. Increased chatter around the franchise gives me hope they're moving forward and making progress. 

[Tiin007]

The chatter really has increased this calendar year. 2016 was perhaps the slowest year in terms of Bond news in recent memory. 

[SecretAgentFan]

I find it highly amusing that SONY had recreated a set from DR.NO in order to persuade EON to go with them once more.

 

They must be pretty scared to be unable to capitalize on their previous successful relationship.

[Odd Jobbies]

I guess this means yet another long delay for negotiations between B25 & 26.

 

First they'll have to audition actors for Bond 7 and then audition studios. Or visa-versa, but just as elongated.

 

I definitely don't see these 2 complicated processes happening simultaneously... It seems good business sense (and common sense) to me that studios will want to know who Bond 7 is, or they'll want their deal done and dusted so they can have a say on the casting.

 

Give me strength! :(

[SecretAgentFan]

Not necessarily.

 

Right now, it makes sense, I believe, to just negotiate for BOND 25 which almost certainly is a "Daniel Craig´s last Bond"-package.  Thereby no distributor gets nervous about future Bond actor prospects - they just get what they want, a sure-fire hit.

 

In the meantime, EON will definitely prepare for the future and cast the next Bond.  It would be helpful to capitalize on the success of BOND 25 to announce the start of BOND 26 with a new actor after BOND 25 has cashed in.  

 

So, lots of time to do the next round of negotiations.  

 

And quite frankly, the way the business works, EON will probably go with a partner they already like and have worked with before.  I don´t think SONY will be dropped, neither for BOND 25 nor the future.

[Dustin]

Sony is at least a known quantity and there will have been close contacts with their staff beyond Pascal - who is still in the game with Sony. Overall I think they share a certain vision, at least for the time Craig is on board. After that it's anybody's guess anyway. If Craig is basically willing to go one more time it would be their best bet to stick with Sony and sort out everything else afterwards. For now it's sensible to just concentrate on the task at hand, i.e. BOND 25.

[Tiin007]

In the meantime, EON will definitely prepare for the future and cast the next Bond.  It would be helpful to capitalize on the success of BOND 25 to announce the start of BOND 26 with a new actor after BOND 25 has cashed in.  

 

So, lots of time to do the next round of negotiations.  

 

 

I don't know. EON has a penchant for only focusing on one Bond film at a time, so I find it hard to believe that they would be going through an arduous casting process while producing Craig's Swann song (pun intended). 

 

The only way I can see this working is if BB and MGW know that MGW will retire as producer once Craig departs, and so he commits himself fully to Bond 25 while Gregg Wilson leads the casting search, only to succeed his father as producer with the casting of the next Bond. This way, I guess BB can do both simultaneously, although EON will still need to keep a very tight leash on the writers and director this time around. 

 

That being said, I'm preparing for a long break after Bond 25 as a new actor is cast, a new distributor is found, and a general trajectory is plotted for the next few films. 

[SecretAgentFan]

I would not expect BOND 26 two years after BOND 25 opens either.

 

But I do believe that EON has been preparing for a new actor to take over while Craig was making up his mind.  I think everything points towards him returning (currently, at least), so the list of actors EON definitely has in their back pocket will be put into play when it is clear Craig will not return beyond BOND 25.

 

After that it´s up to EON to accelerate the schedule to a two year rhythm or to spread out the next Bond films again.

 

But I imagine any new distributor for the future films after BOND 25 will want to see a more steady and predictable time table for their investment - and especially for their investors.

[MISALA1994]

Then EON has to look an actors born in the early 90s too...

Edited by MISALA1994, 21 April 2017 - 12:59 PM.

[Dustin]

I don't even think there will be such an arduous casting process for Craig's successor. I suspect Eon know what they want and will likely have a very short list of people they would consider. And it's even possible some of their candidates are merely there to bolster the case for their dream candidate with MGM and/or the financing studio-distributor. Eventually, if Eon present their case solid enough and their chosen one doesn't completely mess the screen test...I think a studio would be well advised to trust Eon's judgement.

[Tiin007]

I hope you're right, Dustin. 

 

My fear is that, following Craig's departure after Bond 25, EON are planning to debut Bond #7 in 2022 to coincide with the 60th anniversary of the franchise. I sincerely hope that they don't try to craft a special "60th Anniversary Film." 

 

We've had two films in between the 40th anniversary (DAD) and the 50th (SF), and if Bond #7 debuts in 2022, we'd similarly have two films (SP and Bond 25) in between the 50th anniversary and the 60th. Too few films elapse in the interim to continue making special "anniversary films." 

 

I just want straightforward Bond adventures between now and at least 2037, with no overt callbacks or references or winks at the fans. 

 

It is the irregularity of the schedule (and the constant need to justify Bond's existence) which scare me the most. 

[MISALA1994]

DC will pass Roger's 12 year (!) tenure.

[SecretAgentFan]

I hope you're right, Dustin. 

 

My fear is that, following Craig's departure after Bond 25, EON are planning to debut Bond #7 in 2022 to coincide with the 60th anniversary of the franchise. I sincerely hope that they don't try to craft a special "60th Anniversary Film." 

 

We've had two films in between the 40th anniversary (DAD) and the 50th (SF), and if Bond #7 debuts in 2022, we'd similarly have two films (SP and Bond 25) in between the 50th anniversary and the 60th. Too few films elapse in the interim to continue making special "anniversary films." 

 

I just want straightforward Bond adventures between now and at least 2037, with no overt callbacks or references or winks at the fans. 

 

It is the irregularity of the schedule (and the constant need to justify Bond's existence) which scare me the most. 

 

I agree: it´s high time that Bond films will become a regular attraction again, not a rarity event.  

 

But I strongly believe this is only due to Craig´s reluctance to play Bond every two years.  Once another actor is cast EON has to make sure that they won´t let themselves be driven to bear a star´s whims again.

[ggl]

http://www.archivo00...sa-para-bond-25

 

Sorry for the vagueness of the news. It's a solid source.

[Tiin007]

http://www.archivo00...sa-para-bond-25

 

Sorry for the vagueness of the news. It's a solid source.

 

ggl, other than the information in that article, is there anything else you can share? Other casting info? Locations? Anything else to do with pre-production on Bond 25?

[SecretAgentFan]

Okay, according to the horrible Google Translator that Spanish site claims to have an insider source who knows that people have signed contracts for BOND 25 and therefore believe that Craig is back.

 

Is that it?

[Tiin007]

Yes. 

 

But ggl (if I understand correctly) either knows the source or those who spoke with the source. I'm usually very hesitant when it comes to rumors, but I am fairly confident there is more going on here. 

 

(Am I allowed to mention another fan forum on this website?) 

[The Dove]

https://twitter.com/...374609671172096

 

Apparently it's rumored that Daniel Craig's stunt double (most likely Ben Cooke) has signed a contract..

[Tiin007]

If they're signing a stunt double at this point, presumably they're aiming for a 2018 release, right? 

 

Would they sign him so far in advance for a 2019 release?

[Odd Jobbies]

I don't even think there will be such an arduous casting process for Craig's successor. I suspect Eon know what they want and will likely have a very short list of people they would consider. And it's even possible some of their candidates are merely there to bolster the case for their dream candidate with MGM and/or the financing studio-distributor. Eventually, if Eon present their case solid enough and their chosen one doesn't completely mess the screen test...I think a studio would be well advised to trust Eon's judgement.

Or maybe they've got a list of actors they don't want and hope someone new will emerge in the meantime. After all, we've just had plenty of speculation and none of the names mentioned seemed a perfect fit.

If they're signing a stunt double at this point, presumably they're aiming for a 2018 release, right? 

 

Would they sign him so far in advance for a 2019 release?

I haven't a clue, but just wanted to add  a 

 

This all sounds very positive and i'm relieved, though not surprised that Craig's back to finish off this Blofeld arc (which is my belief). I always thought that Eon were simply moving the final act of OHMSS to the first act of B26 (which i still think will use YOLT as a source; Shatterhand/castle of death and all that stuff). If true, then using the OHMSS theme in the trailer was foreshadowing this, rather than just shameless opportunism and i'm hoping they utilise that theme in B26.

[Dustin]

I don't actually think Eon would court any actor they don't want; if someone is on their shortlist they are prepared to go with him - but they will have a pretty good idea which of a small number of names they want to see in the dinner jacket. Chances are for Eon these actors don't probably just emerge; they are likely keeping tabs on their options for some time. And nobody can tell even whether any of the names toted by press and bookies are indeed what Eon have in mind.

At the moment it may look like Craig is returning but I wouldn't be surprised if Barbara Broccoli did already know whom to call after BOND 25.

That doesn't mean casting Bond after Craig would be an easy task. A lot of people will have to be convinced, many of which will have their own ideas much like the fanbase does. But I don't actually see the time after Craig as some kind of 'open season' for all and sundry in the type bracket defined as "007".

[The Dove]

If they're signing a stunt double at this point, presumably they're aiming for a 2018 release, right? 

 

Would they sign him so far in advance for a 2019 release?

That would make sense to me.

[ggl]

Yes. 

 

But ggl (if I understand correctly) either knows the source or those who spoke with the source. I'm usually very hesitant when it comes to rumors, but I am fairly confident there is more going on here. 

 

(Am I allowed to mention another fan forum on this website?) 

Yes, Tiin007, I´m part of the Archivo 007 staff.

 

Sadly I can't add much more to SecretAgentFan's perfect translation. I think the best part is that we can talk about a really advanced preproduction...

[Dustin]

Tallies insofar with the Sony presentation - something will move soon.

[Tiin007]

As difficult as 2016 was with its dearth of Bond news, the upside is that once we started getting some news (certainly now, but even the past couple months), Bond 25 now feels very close. If things work out as EON seem to be aiming for, shooting can begin as early as the end of this year. 

 

Does anyone else feel like this gap is going by quicker than the three years between SF and SP?

[Dustin]

Still hard to predict without word from MGM about the distribution. To me it seems the crucial point may have been Craig giving a slight cautious nod - that would have given some momentum. But they still need a deal with a studio, there is no way around that. Personally I'm not sold on 2018.