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[Odd Jobbies]

Ideally, if everything turns out well, then Craig will be returning for a final time in Shatterhand

I think Shatterhand is the right direction to go in with Bond 25. I'm assuming that you're suggesting Blofeld escapes death at the end of Bond 24, but is tracked down in Bond 25 under that catchy alias [Dr] Shatterhand.

 

That's exactly what i was just saying above with my idea for Bond 25. But that would make it a continuation story with many of the same players involved. In this scenario i think a 2 year is fine, since much of the pre-production will be in mind, if not underway throughout the SPECTRE production.

[DamnCoffee]

i'd like to think that Blofeld does escape death, if he is in SPECTRE of course. Killing him off wouldn't be the best thing to do. Stupid in fact. Considering how much wasted potential there would be. Also, why even bother getting the rights for one film. I wouldn't mind Blofeld and SPECTRE carrying on through Bond 7. 

 

Regarding Bond 25 being under production during SPECTRE though, don't bet on it. They wanted Quantum of Solace out for 2007 originally, a year after Casino and they hadn't even started production then considering they never properly finished the script for that film anyway. As much as I want to think that they have a big masterplan for future instalments, I feel the burden of making one film would be enough pressure. Unless Michael G Wilson is taking a back seat on this and working on the next one. I haven't seen nothing of him so far during SPECTRE production. 

Edited by DamnCoffee, 19 January 2015 - 02:42 PM.

[x007AceOfSpades]

i'd like to think that Blofeld does escape death, if he is in SPECTRE of course. Killing him off wouldn't be the best thing to do. Stupid in fact. Considering how much wasted potential there would be. Also, why even bother getting the rights for one film. I wouldn't mind Blofeld and SPECTRE carrying on through Bond 7. 

 

Regarding Bond 25 being under production during SPECTRE though, don't bet on it. They wanted Quantum of Solace out for 2007 originally, a year after Casino and they hadn't even started production then considering they never properly finished the script for that film anyway. As much as I want to think that they have a big masterplan for future instalments, I feel the burden of making one film would be enough pressure. Unless Michael G Wilson is taking a back seat on this and working on the next one. I haven't seen nothing of him so far during SPECTRE production. 

I believe QOS was actually slated for May 2nd, 2008 (Coincidentally, the same release as Marvel/Paramount's Iron Man).

[Odd Jobbies]

I didn't mean that any kind of substantial production was underway on Bond 25. But, if 25 is a continuation of 24, then some of the heavy lifting has been done; They have their characters (and unlike QoS we'd have the same main villain - a big casting decision already taken care of).

 

And whatever the originally planned release date of QoS was, it was a singular issue that marred that movie - the writer's strike - not gap since the previous instalment.

 

The main thing we'd all agree on is that rushing these things rarely ends well. I'm just suggesting that behind the scenes it may not be as rushed as it seems. Then again, considering the last minute changes and rewrites to SPECTRE that have been rumoured, they're overarching plans for 25 may have ben nixed by those rewrites! Who knows?

Edited by Odd Jobbies, 19 January 2015 - 03:53 PM.

[DamnCoffee]

 

i'd like to think that Blofeld does escape death, if he is in SPECTRE of course. Killing him off wouldn't be the best thing to do. Stupid in fact. Considering how much wasted potential there would be. Also, why even bother getting the rights for one film. I wouldn't mind Blofeld and SPECTRE carrying on through Bond 7. 

 

Regarding Bond 25 being under production during SPECTRE though, don't bet on it. They wanted Quantum of Solace out for 2007 originally, a year after Casino and they hadn't even started production then considering they never properly finished the script for that film anyway. As much as I want to think that they have a big masterplan for future instalments, I feel the burden of making one film would be enough pressure. Unless Michael G Wilson is taking a back seat on this and working on the next one. I haven't seen nothing of him so far during SPECTRE production. 

I believe QOS was actually slated for May 2nd, 2008 (Coincidentally, the same release as Marvel/Paramount's Iron Man).

 

 

It was pushed back quite a few times. The original plan was to have Quantum of Solace come out a year after Casino Royale, mainly to take advantage of it being 2007. (Oh dear) Then it secured a May 2008 release, but was pushed back again to November.

Edited by DamnCoffee, 19 January 2015 - 03:54 PM.

[Quantumofsolace007]

While I like SHatterhand as a title I feel we have had a few to many one word titles begining with S lately (Skyfall Solo Spectre) I kind of would like a multi word title again

 

 

Personally I would love if Craig's tenure goes like this

 

Casino Royale

Quantum of Solace

Skyfall

Spectre

The Property of a Lady (a modern retelling of sorts of OHMSS Nolan or Gilroy directing)

ShatterHand (Mendes returns and it's adapted from You Only live twice)

[Walecs]

While I like SHatterhand as a title I feel we have had a few to many one word titles begining with S lately (Skyfall Solo Spectre) I kind of would like a multi word title again

 

Don't forget "Shoot to Kill" (although that wasn't a "one-word" title)

[DaveBond21]

I really hope we get Bond 25 in 2017. I prefer quality of course, but we've only had 3 Bond movies from Daniel Craig in 9 years.

 

Roger Moore had done 5 in the same time.

[graric]

I really hope we get Bond 25 in 2017. I prefer quality of course, but we've only had 3 Bond movies from Daniel Craig in 9 years.

 

Roger Moore had done 5 in the same time.

 

Well technically by the end of this year we will have 4 films from Craig in 9 years, so he is only 1 film behind Roger there...but I do agree with you in general and hope that Bond 25 comes out in 2017.

[Odd Jobbies]

I really hope we get Bond 25 in 2017. I prefer quality of course, but we've only had 3 Bond movies from Daniel Craig in 9 years.

 

Roger Moore had done 5 in the same time.

Maybe that's why they've done 3  

[bond_azoozbond]

I have a strong feeling that Craig will sign a new contract after Bond 25 .. Maybe for 2 more bond movies .. The relation between him and the producers are very well plus his bond movies are the most successful on the franchise..

[AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän]

Who knows? But I sure as hell wouldn't mind him doing equal amount of Bonds as Seanery.

[sharpshooter]

I have a strong feeling that Craig will sign a new contract after Bond 25 .. Maybe for 2 more bond movies .. The relation between him and the producers are very well plus his bond movies are the most successful on the franchise..

I'm all for it, and think he would still look the part in terms of age. But it really does depend on how they end Bond 25. If they've written SPECTRE and 25 in the style of a two-parter.

Edited by sharpshooter, 19 February 2015 - 11:59 PM.

[DaveBond21]

I'd love to see him do more than SPECTRE and Bond 25, but I also think he will be starting to look older by the time he is 50.

 

For me. the Bond actor should be between 33 and 49.

[Vauxhall]

I feel we'll be in a great position after SPECTRE for one more out of Craig. Given how long it takes for these films to get made, I think BOND 26 might be just out of reach. Plus I'd much rather have five quality entries for him, than one that stretched too far and didn't quite work.

[sharpshooter]

It makes me wonder how Craig's Bond could be written out. I'm thinking perhaps Mallory's comments from Skyfall could come true. Instead of coming back to active duty, Bond stays 'dead' and slinks away. But instead of being bitter and angry, he's found a sense of peace.

[DaveBond21]

Are you advocating the codename theory? 

 

Isn't the next actor playing the same Bond?

[sharpshooter]

Are you advocating the codename theory? 

Not at all - I hate that 'theory'.

 

However I think the scenario I described above would work well. It would give Craig's run a proper sense of closure. A Bond hasn't really had that before. You could argue Brosnan's Bond did, with the final sequence with Jinx. But DAD wasn't planned to be his swansong. For example, imagine if Octopussy was Moore's last Bond film. Sailing away on the seas with Octopussy. I think that would've been a fantastic ending for Moore, rather than the downbeat and rather forgettable shower scene with Stacey in AVTAK.

 

I think after Craig they'll simply make another Bond movie. But when the next Bond actor steps in, tonally he could be starting afresh.

[DaveBond21]

Yep I see what you mean. Yes, Roger had a terrible last scene didn't he? So did Lois Maxwell - her final scene was crying thinking her beloved James is dead.

 

Tonally, the next actor could be starting afresh but I would like to see them keep the current M, Q and Moneypenny. Bond's relationship with them would have to remain the same wouldn't it?

[sharpshooter]

Tonally, the next actor could be starting afresh but I would like to see them keep the current M, Q and Moneypenny. Bond's relationship with them would have to remain the same wouldn't it?

I agree. I want Fiennes, Whishaw and Harris to stay. They make a great team. It's not essential, but having familiar faces surrounding Bond 7 would help him and the audience too.

 

As for the new Bond's relationship with them, I guess it would more or less be the same. There would be obvious differences to the audience - mainly the new Bond's face and emphasising different facets of his personality to play to his strengths. But simply carrying on as if this has always been the norm does wonders.

[bond_azoozbond]

So if craig sign for more bond after Bond25 , i think it would be great to see old bond with craig acting skills .. Bond after his 50 and still on the service. The journey starts from Casino Royale and ends with old bond .

[Odd Jobbies]

Fleming Novel Spoiler ahead  (don't know how to blank it out).....

 

 

 

Would be sweet to end it with that TMWTGG telegram/phone call (can't remember which) from M and Bond turning down the knighthood in favour of continuing to be a 00.

Edited by Odd Jobbies, 20 February 2015 - 11:45 AM.

[Invincible1958]

Fleming Novel Spoiler ahead  (don't know how to blank it out).....

 

 

 

Would be sweet to end it with that TMWTGG telegram/phone call (can't remember which) from M and Bond turning down the knighthood in favour of continuing to be a 00.

 

Haha. And then we will see the real Queen in her room saying "What did I do wrong?" :-)

[Walecs]

I would love to see Craig doing a sixth, and I really hope he will - assuming he'll be in shape, though. Bond 26 will come out in 2020/2021, and Craig will be about 52. If he'll look as old as Moore did in AVTAK, then I'd rather have a new Bond step in.

[Agent 76]

So after SPECTRE, Craig has one more movie in his contract?

[sharpshooter]

So after SPECTRE, Craig has one more movie in his contract?

Yes.

[dtuba]

 

Are you advocating the codename theory? 

Not at all - I hate that 'theory'.

 

However I think the scenario I described above would work well. It would give Craig's run a proper sense of closure. A Bond hasn't really had that before. You could argue Brosnan's Bond did, with the final sequence with Jinx. But DAD wasn't planned to be his swansong. For example, imagine if Octopussy was Moore's last Bond film. Sailing away on the seas with Octopussy. I think that would've been a fantastic ending for Moore, rather than the downbeat and rather forgettable shower scene with Stacey in AVTAK.

 

I think after Craig they'll simply make another Bond movie. But when the next Bond actor steps in, tonally he could be starting afresh.

 

Which reminds me of Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy in a way. At the end of TDKR it seemed like Batman was really and truly dead. But we all know that there will be another Batman,  and the character will not disappear forever. There will probably be plenty of critical reaction to Ben Affleck's take on the character, but audiences will not question whether he fits into the Nolan "continuity".

[Professor Pi]

I think EON will offer Craig one more outing as Bond after his contract is up, and I'd rather he have an even number of Bond movies.  I'm hoping Bond 25 is titled ShatterHand, a CR-like faithful YOLT adaptation with him returning a 6th time in "The Property of a Lady" as a reference to 007 himself re-established in the service of Her Majesty's government.  Then the character lives in with a new actor in time for the 60th anniversary.  Release years 2017, 2019 and 2022.

[Odd Jobbies]

I think EON will offer Craig one more outing as Bond after his contract is up, and I'd rather he have an even number of Bond movies.  I'm hoping Bond 25 is titled ShatterHand, a CR-like faithful YOLT adaptation with him returning a 6th time in "The Property of a Lady" as a reference to 007 himself re-established in the service of Her Majesty's government.  Then the character lives in with a new actor in time for the 60th anniversary.  Release years 2017, 2019 and 2022.

I think it depends upon the options that become apparent between now and then. As things stand i'd guess they'd be begging him to stay.

[DaveBond21]

Do you think the producers would wait for Mendes to be available again? How much of the success of Skyfall and SPECTRE will we be putting down to Mendes? What impact has he had on the scripts/stories or the direction that the movies are going?

 

If we argue that he is an integral part, then they would want to keep the Craig-Mendes team for as long as possible.

 

If the stories are happening without Mendes being involved, then it doesn't matter if he directs or when he is available.

 

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