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SPECTRE's Impact on OHMSS


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#31 FlemingBond

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 04:30 PM

 

Well, all I can say is that this is a large portion of the reason that I'm against the return of SPECTRE and Blofeld and all of that in the first place.  And now we know that, from the official synopsis of SPECTRE, that the film is going to be personal yet again.  EON doesn't know how to make a good standalone film anymore, and we're not going to see one until at least Bond 26, sometime probably after the year 2020, which will mean that we'll have had about three and a half decades of Bond films all featuring a "this time, it's personal" bent to it.

 

Now, with all of that said, since they're hellbent on making SPECTRE yet another personal film for Bond, then I think that they need to do it right by having things end up with a faithful adaptation of You Only Live Twice.  If we're going to be forced to sit through more of this "this time it's personal" nonsense, at least use it as an excuse to give us the brilliant unused material from Fleming that we'll probably never get to see on the big screen if they don't take this opportunity to adapt it.

I agree with this, t. I don't want a remake of OHMSS and I can't for the life of me imagine why anyone would. The last three Bond films proved that the right writers can still come up with original stories that don't lean too heavily on the classic films. I would much rather be impressed by Logan, Purvis and Wade coming up with a completely new story on the emotional level of OHMSS but which doesn't involve Craig's Bond losing his heart to a woman again. That already happened with Vesper. 

However, I would love to see a faithful adaptation of Fleming's "YOLT" using untapped ideas such as the Garden of Death, Doctor Shatterhand, a return to Japan, etc. Maybe even combine the plot of Bond 25 (assuming it is, in fact, at least loosely based on Fleming's "YOLT") with the opening of Fleming's  "TMWTGG" by including a brainwashed Bond's failed assassination attempt on Fiennes' M. 

 

I wouldn't call Casino Royale an 'original story' by Purvis and Wade



#32 coco1997

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 07:50 PM

I wouldn't call Casino Royale an 'original story' by Purvis and Wade

No, but QoS and SKYFALL were. 



#33 glidrose

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 09:20 PM

Were it up to me - and it isn't - I'd have this film finally tie in with the original series' chronology. In other words, Daniel Craig's Bond has already loved & lost Tracy when Bond24 begins. Never liked the reboot mythos.

 

Speaking of which, what the hell acronym do we give this film?



#34 JCRendle

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 10:19 PM

Speaking of which, what the hell acronym do we give this film?

 

SPECTRE



#35 seawolfnyy

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 02:35 AM

 

Speaking of which, what the hell acronym do we give this film?

 

SPECTRE

 

Haven't we been over this already?



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Posted 30 January 2015 - 01:29 AM

Were it up to me - and it isn't - I'd have this film finally tie in with the original series' chronology. In other words, Daniel Craig's Bond has already loved & lost Tracy when Bond24 begins. Never liked the reboot mythos.

 

Speaking of which, what the hell acronym do we give this film?

There's always hope for Bond 26/27 to make use of The Man With The Golden Gun's brainwashing and electroshock treatment so Bond can for get Madelaine and "Oberhauser"



#37 MadeleineSwann

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Posted 30 January 2015 - 11:14 AM

Were it up to me - and it isn't - I'd have this film finally tie in with the original series' chronology. In other words, Daniel Craig's Bond has already loved & lost Tracy when Bond24 begins. Never liked the reboot mythos.

 

I respect your opinion - but I don't think that's a very good idea. Are you saying that Craig would already have met Tracy and she's already dead? Because if that was the case I would walk out of the cinema there and then. Or are you saying that Craig's era should be connected to Lazenby's? Because if that's the case then that would just mess up the entire reboot.


Edited by MadeleineSwann, 30 January 2015 - 11:16 AM.


#38 glidrose

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Posted 03 February 2015 - 12:25 AM

 

Were it up to me - and it isn't - I'd have this film finally tie in with the original series' chronology. In other words, Daniel Craig's Bond has already loved & lost Tracy when Bond24 begins. Never liked the reboot mythos.

 

I respect your opinion - but I don't think that's a very good idea. Are you saying that Craig would already have met Tracy and she's already dead? Because if that was the case I would walk out of the cinema there and then. Or are you saying that Craig's era should be connected to Lazenby's? Because if that's the case then that would just mess up the entire reboot.

 

 

 

The latter, and yes I want it to mess up the entire reboot.

 

BTW, whenever I hear someone tell me "I respect your opinion" I actually hear them telling me "you're a wanker!" :D



#39 sharpshooter

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Posted 03 February 2015 - 02:27 AM

In terms of expanding the Craigverse, I like the idea of Bond having been on various missions (both difficult and routine) mainly set between QoS and Skyfall. That's four years of action we don't see. However that would be it, in my mind. I wouldn't have wanted anything major to have gone down in that time. Vesper has been his Tracy in the reboot. However I wouldn't rule out Tracy, or a variation of her, popping up in the future.