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[sharpshooter]

I personally don't see the Tracy storyline happening, and so soon after Casino Royale. I agree with Royal Dalton in that Vesper is the Tracy of the new timeline.

[blueman]

While the bullet hole is one heckuva throwback image, I kinda doubt it has the significance we think it does.  It might not end up being anything plot-related related at all, just EON pulling some heartstrings ala the old Aston Martin, for an intriguing teaser poster (I mean 99% of the world knows nothing about THE bullet hole...only as Bond fanatics).

[Blofeld's Cat]

I keep wanting to see Roger Moore dressed in black, holding a revolver, standing behind that bullet hole.

[Trevelyan 006]

Its too coincidental not to be exactly what it is presumed to be. THE bullet hole through the windshield that changes Bond's life, by taking the one he cherishes the most. Bond must be in a VERY DARK place at the start of Bond 25 before exacting revenge. It all makes too much sense. Blofeld appearing and being killed off in the same film? No way. Not only would it not make sense, but it would be a large waste (and a bad marketing idea at that). Of course, as others touched on, he may not even appear at all.

 

Either way, SPECTRE and Bond 25 will coincide. The arc and characters are much too big to be contained in one film. 

[The Shark]

They're not going to bother pseudo-remaking On Her Majesty's Secret Service when all the pieces of the jigsaw are already in place.
 
Blofeld was the head of Quantum. 
 
Mr. White is the only person still alive who knows who Blofeld is and can identify him.
 
Bond either tracks down or agrees to meet Mr. White. But SPECTRE gets to White first and Bond finds him dying. White imparts cryptic message to Bond, which eventually leads him to Blofeld, and croaks.
 
Vesper Lynd was to be killed on Blofeld's orders, and died because of her connection to him.
 
Vesper Lynd = Tracy Bond.
 
Bond sets out to take down SPECTRE and avenge Vesper's death.
 
Bond 25/26: You Only Live Twice plotline.

The problem for audiences is that it's no longer 2007/8-- Vesper's death has been avenged with QUANTUM OF SOLACE. The emotional punch has gone, and for some us (myself included) it was never there with CASINO ROYALE-- I never bought Bond and Vesper's romance and thought Green was miscast.

If they're going to recreate OHMSS/YOLT with alternate names, Bond's loss has got to be a shock and fresh in our minds. Monica Bellucci would be perfect as the love of Bond's life. A mature, sexy, headstrong, Italian woman. A free spirit.

[Shrublands]

You see, the way I see it, in the new timeline and with reference to the Fleming novels , Quantum = SMERSH and SPECTRE = SPECTRE.

 

Therefor, Vesper was killed by Quantum/SMERSH at the start of Bond's 007 career and it is possible that Tracy will die at the hands SPECTRE later in his career.

 

At the start of the book of OHMSS, Bond is in France visiting the grave of Vesper, it has been 10 years since her death and it is on this pilgrimage that he first sees Tracy.

 

Skyfall makes it clear that Bond is now a seasoned 007 and a fair bit of water has flown under the bridge since his early days as an 00 agent.

 

The new film, SPECTRE, will be released 9 years after CR and Bond will again visit Italy in the film - Could he be visiting Vesper's grave approximately 10 years after her death? 

Will it be here that he first meets Monica Bellucci's character? 

[Royal Dalton]

The problem for audiences is that it's no longer 2007/8-- Vesper's death has been avenged with QUANTUM OF SOLACE. The emotional punch has gone, and for some us (myself included) it was never there with CASINO ROYALE-- I never bought Bond and Vesper's romance and thought Green was miscast.

 

I agree with you, Shark. But I can't see any reason to bring Quantum and White back into it if it's not to tie Blofeld and SPECTRE into the Vesper storyline.

[univex]

You see, the way I see it, in the new timeline and with reference to the Fleming novels , Quantum = SMERSH and SPECTRE = SPECTRE.

 

Therefor, Vesper was killed by Quantum/SMERSH at the start of Bond's 007 career and it is possible that Tracy will die at the hands SPECTRE later in his career.

 

At the start of the book of OHMSS, Bond is in France visiting the grave of Vesper, it has been 10 years since her death and it is on this pilgrimage that he first sees Tracy.

 

Skyfall makes it clear that Bond is now a seasoned 007 and a fair bit of water has flown under the bridge since his early days as an 00 agent.

 

The new film, SPECTRE, will be released 9 years after CR and Bond will again visit Italy in the film - Could he be visiting Vesper's grave approximately 10 years after her death? 

Will it be here that he first meets Monica Bellucci's character? 

 

I´d love this as a scenario. Although Rome is a bit far from Venice. Has it been 9 years? Time does fly. 

[bleary_25]

You see, the way I see it, in the new timeline and with reference to the Fleming novels , Quantum = SMERSH and SPECTRE = SPECTRE.

 

Therefor, Vesper was killed by Quantum/SMERSH at the start of Bond's 007 career and it is possible that Tracy will die at the hands SPECTRE later in his career.

 

At the start of the book of OHMSS, Bond is in France visiting the grave of Vesper, it has been 10 years since her death and it is on this pilgrimage that he first sees Tracy.

 

Skyfall makes it clear that Bond is now a seasoned 007 and a fair bit of water has flown under the bridge since his early days as an 00 agent.

 

The new film, SPECTRE, will be released 9 years after CR and Bond will again visit Italy in the film - Could he be visiting Vesper's grave approximately 10 years after her death? 

Will it be here that he first meets Monica Bellucci's character? 

 

I've been thinking along similar lines. These next two films will be linked by Blofeld. Someone who Bond loves will die by Blofeld's hand in this film and in Bond 25, 007 will get revenge.

[Hansen]

I do not buy the Tracy plot for the coming films.

This already happened with Vesper. Doing it again would be clearly redundant.

EoN has been lazy on the title and the casting but I try to be optimistic for the plot

[Professor Pi]

They give a reference to Tracy either literally or spiritually every four to five films once a decade--OHMSS, SPWLM, FYEO, LTK, TWINE--and now presumably SPECTRE.  Casting Ms. Bellucci in that sort of role with its call back to the TND character she was almost cast as fortifies the speculation that she's integral to Bond's past.  The way they're being so coy about the villain, she could be a Nena character ala For Special Services, a John Gardner novel about S.P.E.C.T.R.E.  I'm looking forward to the surprises in store no matter what.

 

It's easily the coolest poster of the Craig tenure. 

[tdalton]

It's easily the coolest poster of the Craig tenure. 

 

I'd have to disagree.  I don't see EON ever doing better than their Casino Royale teaser poster.  

 

The SPECTRE poster would have a chance at looking quite good if it weren't for the terrible font they've decided to go with on this one.  The bullet hole is good in that it has a lot of meaning behind it, but that font is terrible.

[univex]

Love the font, title, poster.

 

But yeah, the CR teaser was the best.

[sharpshooter]

Yes, it was. One of the best in the series. 

 

While I like the SPECTRE teaser poster, I hope they have some variety other than black and white ala the Skyfall poster.

[Trevelyan 006]

Yes, it was. One of the best in the series. 

 

While I like the SPECTRE teaser poster, I hope they have some variety other than black and white ala the Skyfall poster.

 

Agreed on all points. Something other than just text (aside from the bullet hole) would be nice, too. One can hope...

Edited by Trevelyan 006, 07 December 2014 - 06:44 AM.

[The Shark]

Disagree with the consensus that the CR teaser is the gold standard. It's moody and atmospheric, but like Dalton's hair in LTK, it makes Craig look like an operative of Station T for Transylvania, rather than James Bond. Something about the glow-in-the-dark eyes.

[Harmsway]

Disagree with the consensus that the CR teaser is the gold standard. It's moody and atmospheric, but like Dalton's hair in LTK, it makes Craig look like an operative of Station T for Transylvania, rather than James Bond. Something about the glow-in-the-dark eyes.

That's exactly what I like about it.

 

The Craig-era teaser posters, on the whole, are a mixed bag, but they're better than the theatrical release posters, which have been uniformly awful. But it's hard to think of *any* movies that have especially great poster art these days.

[DrShatterhand]

[/quote]The Craig-era teaser posters, on the whole, are a mixed bag, but they're better than the theatrical release posters, which have been uniformly awful. But it's hard to think of *any* movies that have especially great poster art these days.[/quote]

Yes, sadly creating iconic posters seems to be a dying art these days. It's all boring bloody 'character' posters, just in case we forget who the producers paid to be in their film.

That being said, love the reader for SPECTRE. I wasn't that sure about this title beforehand but as soon as I saw the reveal with that sleak font and enigmatic image I was in 100%. Job done then I'd say!

[Harmsway]

Yeah, that font sells the title, and the logo is very cool (although it's not likely to sell many tickets).

[SecretAgentFan]

 

Disagree with the consensus that the CR teaser is the gold standard. It's moody and atmospheric, but like Dalton's hair in LTK, it makes Craig look like an operative of Station T for Transylvania, rather than James Bond. Something about the glow-in-the-dark eyes.

That's exactly what I like about it.

 

The Craig-era teaser posters, on the whole, are a mixed bag, but they're better than the theatrical release posters, which have been uniformly awful. But it's hard to think of *any* movies that have especially great poster art these days.

 

 

Indeed, movie posters have become terribly bland.  The art of design has been lost.  Nowadays, artists are not employed - only photo-shopping PR-people.

[RMc2]

 

You see, the way I see it, in the new timeline and with reference to the Fleming novels , Quantum = SMERSH and SPECTRE = SPECTRE.

 

Therefor, Vesper was killed by Quantum/SMERSH at the start of Bond's 007 career and it is possible that Tracy will die at the hands SPECTRE later in his career.

 

At the start of the book of OHMSS, Bond is in France visiting the grave of Vesper, it has been 10 years since her death and it is on this pilgrimage that he first sees Tracy.

 

Skyfall makes it clear that Bond is now a seasoned 007 and a fair bit of water has flown under the bridge since his early days as an 00 agent.

 

The new film, SPECTRE, will be released 9 years after CR and Bond will again visit Italy in the film - Could he be visiting Vesper's grave approximately 10 years after her death? 

Will it be here that he first meets Monica Bellucci's character? 

 

I've been thinking along similar lines. These next two films will be linked by Blofeld. Someone who Bond loves will die by Blofeld's hand in this film and in Bond 25, 007 will get revenge.

 

 

I agree that Blofeld will probably be big in 24 & 25 but I hope to high heaven we don't have that last part recycled from CR + QoS. 

[PPK_19]

Every single one of the Skyfall promotional posters were total garbage. Bland, uninspired, far too much white on them. 

 

As for Spectre's bullet hole design- fantastic. Simple, yet it says a lot.  

 

Whilst people have an extremely good point regarding general design of movie posters these days ("It's a lost art!") , I'm hopeful that Spectre's will be better than the last load. 

[Shrublands]

Every single one of the Skyfall promotional posters were total garbage. Bland, uninspired, far too much white on them. 

 

As for Spectre's bullet hole design- fantastic. Simple, yet it says a lot.  

 

 

 

I absolutely agree with both points.

The Skyfall posters were unbelievably bad. The SPECTRE teaser poster is just so minimal and stylish - I love it. 

[DrShatterhand]

Teaser not reader lol

[univex]

 

Every single one of the Skyfall promotional posters were total garbage. Bland, uninspired, far too much white on them. 

 

As for Spectre's bullet hole design- fantastic. Simple, yet it says a lot.  

 

 

 

I absolutely agree with both points.

The Skyfall posters were unbelievably bad. The SPECTRE teaser poster is just so minimal and stylish - I love it. 

 

I just hope the main poster will be as stylish as the teaser. The character posters for SF were dreadful as well.

[Hansen]

CR teaser poster is one of the greatest.

SPECTRE one is... Lazy... Again...

We are trying to see some signification on this impact on glass, but I bet that its relation with the film will be minimal.

It tells nothing, shows little and gives plenty of time to the Marketing department to prepare something

[Matt_13]

The SPECTRE poster is what sold me on the title. It's the coolest poster they've cooked up since that epic CR teaser.

[GardenerJames..Gardener]

You know sometimes a bullet hole is just a hole made by a bullet....

[glidrose]

My first thought when I saw the poster: the bullet hole from OHMSS.

 

My second thought was, awesome poster, terrible font.

 

My third thought was something I'd read here several months ago. http://debrief.comma...d-24/?p=1277674

 

 

"The filmmakers will soon begin casting two key female roles, including a new Bond girl and a Scandinavian with a troubled past who will serve as a brief love interest for Bond."

 

"So - a British actress for an unknown role, and a Scandinavian with a troubled past. Thoughts?"

 

"Brief usually means "dies"."

 

 

 

Thoughts, anybody?

[Trevelyan 006]

You know sometimes a bullet hole is just a hole made by a bullet....

And sometimes, a gentle nod is just a nod that is gentle...