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[DaveBond21]

 

This is fine but Judi Dench said she was playing the same character in the Brosnan and Craig timelines.

No disrespect to Dame Judi but I think she was a bit clueless about it all. 
I like to run with the idea that they were separate people.

 

Barbara Mawdsley - Brosnan
Olivia Mansfield - Craig

Some friends of mine think Bond is a Time Lord, currently on his 6th regeneration...

I like your friends lol

 

 

She didn't decide. Martin Campbell told her she was playing the same character. And he directed Goldeneye and Casino Royale. And Bond has his Goldfinger Aston Martin in Skyfall.

[Call Billy Bob]

And Bond has his Goldfinger Aston Martin in Skyfall.

True, but that was just a meta bit of fan-service for the 50th

[bond_azoozbond]

Its one of the hardest topics to think about .. I always thought about theories as I always believe on them .. BUT I can just say that James bond stories is an open loop  ! 

[univex]

Just don´t overthink it guys, it´s never been about that. It´s just a fun ride

 

Although I´m a fan of the time lord theory Several time lords. Bond, Felix, M, Moneypenny, Q, ..., all time lords from Gallifrey. 

 

not.

[plankattack]

I can't believe that we're having another timeline/continuity discussion again!!!!!

 

I mean, don't you all know that James Bond is a just a codename? Lee Tamahori said so!

 

[JCRendle]

 

 

I mean, don't you all know that James Bond is a just a codename? Lee Tamahori said so!

 

 

 

It's NOT A CODE NAME!

 

He. Is. A. Time. Lord!

 

 

I thought this was established!

 

Codename? FML!

[x007AceOfSpades]

Like Seawolfnyy had said previously, I had thought that Craig's film's were possibly prequel's to Connery's, but with Craig's fourth film being the introduction to SPECTRE, I no longer think that.

 

Bond is a timeless character, however Craig's first film, the reboot Casino Royale is a new film in a new timeline. That's just it for me.

[Vauxhall]

The timeline issue always surfaces, and everyone has their own interpretation of the various well-known anomalies.

 

For me, DR NO to DIE ANOTHER DAY is one telling of the Bond story, CASINO ROYALE to SPECTRE is a second telling of the Bond story. Events recounted in those first 20 films can, and sometimes should, reappear in this refreshed timeline.

 

But ultimately, they're just a bit of fun, so I suppose it doesn't really matter... Although we all know it does!

[S K Y F A L L]

I still like to believe it all one saga and continuity. Call me old fashioned or call me crazy.

[x007AceOfSpades]

The timeline issue always surfaces, and everyone has their own interpretation of the various well-known anomalies.

 

For me, DR NO to DIE ANOTHER DAY is one telling of the Bond story, CASINO ROYALE to SPECTRE is a second telling of the Bond story. Events recounted in those first 20 films can, and sometimes should, reappear in this refreshed timeline.

 

But ultimately, they're just a bit of fun, so I suppose it doesn't really matter... Although we all know it does!

That's a nice way of putting it. I concur with you, Vauxhall.

[FlemingBond]

i'm surprised they're going back to SPECTRE, I remember when Quantum was out Michael Wilson alluded to SPECTRE in the 60s and said they couldn't be so over the top (such as people getting electrocuted in their chair)

what's next for a reboot? Goldfinger? Tracy Bond?

[Vauxhall]

i'm surprised they're going back to SPECTRE, I remember when Quantum was out Michael Wilson alluded to SPECTRE in the 60s and said they couldn't be so over the top (such as people getting electrocuted in their chair)
what's next for a reboot? Goldfinger? Tracy Bond?

Good memory!

Found the quotes: http://commanderbond...ed-in-2011.html

[billy007]

There was mention of Batman a few posts back.

Having been a Batman reader/movie fan  almost as long as being a 007 reader/movie fan (40+ years)

I continue to quote Dennis O'Neal  " Use continuity as a tool not a guide"

Casino Royale 2006 is a reboot (Bond earns "00" status) Past references to older films are respectful homages.

SPECTRE should continue to do so.  I do have mixed feeling about introducing Tracy into current timeline. 

Can Eon/MGM  Michael/Barbara match CR2006's version of losing Vesper,seeking revenge for Vesper etc.?

[Bryce (003)]

Ken Watanabe would be a great Tanaka

 Would have been. He passed away a month or so ago. I'd love to see Bond return to Japan.

[Call Billy Bob]

Bryce, I'm pretty sure he's still alive and the whole thing was a hoax...

[x007AceOfSpades]

 

Ken Watanabe would be a great Tanaka

 Would have been. He passed away a month or so ago. I'd love to see Bond return to Japan.

 

He's still alive and well, was shooting a film with Matthew McConaughey back in the summer.

[sharpshooter]

For me, DR NO to DIE ANOTHER DAY is one telling of the Bond story, CASINO ROYALE to SPECTRE is a second telling of the Bond story. Events recounted in those first 20 films can, and sometimes should, reappear in this refreshed timeline.

 

Casino Royale 2006 is a reboot (Bond earns "00" status) Past references to older films are respectful homages.

I am firmly in this camp as well.

Edited by sharpshooter, 06 December 2014 - 07:24 AM.

[jaguar007]

To a certain extent the Bond series starts a new time line every time they change actors.

[dtuba]

 

And Bond has his Goldfinger Aston Martin in Skyfall.

True, but that was just a meta bit of fan-service for the 50th

 

100% correct sir, well said.

The whole "Old Bond Dies, old Bond gets resurrected" theme was pretty much just a metaphor for the series itself, turning 50 years old. At least that's the way I see it.

[univex]

 

For me, DR NO to DIE ANOTHER DAY is one telling of the Bond story, CASINO ROYALE to SPECTRE is a second telling of the Bond story. Events recounted in those first 20 films can, and sometimes should, reappear in this refreshed timeline.

 

Casino Royale 2006 is a reboot (Bond earns "00" status) Past references to older films are respectful homages.

I am firmly in this camp as well.

 

 

This^. Absolutely. 

[The Shark]

Ken Watanabe would be a great Tanaka

I'd rather someone else. Right now he's Hollywood's go-to Asian actor, so he's a little over exposed. Would also draw up more Nolan comparisons.

[tdalton]

 

Ken Watanabe would be a great Tanaka

I'd rather someone else. Right now he's Hollywood's go-to Asian actor, so he's a little over exposed. Would also draw up more Nolan comparisons.

 

 

Agreed.  Surely there are some lesser known actors out there that could turn in just as good, and probably better, performances as Watanabe.  

[Professor Pi]

I bet Christopher Nolan could resolve these timeline issues when he directs Bond 26!

[univex]

I bet Christopher Nolan could resolve these timeline issues when he directs Bond 26!

Just hire Steven Moffat to write it, or help write it, given it would be Nolan. Time lords, they are, I tell ya.

[stromberg]

Hope we get Moffat one day. Got to meet him by coincidence when I was in London for the QoS premiere, nice chap and he knows his Bond for sure. Didn't really know who he was back then, only knew that he had something to do with Dr. Who (not really familiar with that, as Dr. Who is not very big in Germany). Had this happened after the release of Sherlock (he mentioned that he's working on somethng really interesting), I certainly would have behaved like a schoolboy 

[Matt_13]

Moffat has said that while he loves Bond, it's something he wants to enjoy fresh when he enters the cinema for the first time, and as a result is not something he'd want to work on. I wouldn't complain if he was hired. I would also love to see Mark Gatiss involved on the acting front at some point.

[RMc2]

Moffat has said that while he loves Bond, it's something he wants to enjoy fresh when he enters the cinema for the first time, and as a result is not something he'd want to work on. I wouldn't complain if he was hired. I would also love to see Mark Gatiss involved on the acting front at some point.

 

Cripes, please no. Moffat's style is far too aren't-I-clever for a Bond film. Better keep him contained with Who & Sherlock. 

 

I can see Gatiss in a fun bit-part, like Charles Gray in YOLT.

[Iceskater101]

I like what someone said that Casino Royale is a reboot of the Bond franchise and that bringing back Spectre is okay because we rebooted the Bond franchise. That makes sense to me and it would make things more sense to me. That would mean that any Bond movie from Connery to Brosnan's Die Another Day were individual missions and that Craig's Bond is starting from the beginning in a new world in which Bond gained his 00 license.

[Admiral Messervey]

Moffat has said that while he loves Bond, it's something he wants to enjoy fresh when he enters the cinema for the first time, and as a result is not something he'd want to work on. I wouldn't complain if he was hired. I would also love to see Mark Gatiss involved on the acting front at some point.

 

 

I bet Christopher Nolan could resolve these timeline issues when he directs Bond 26!

Just hire Steven Moffat to write it, or help write it, given it would be Nolan. Time lords, they are, I tell ya.

 

 

 

Hope we get Moffat one day. Got to meet him by coincidence when I was in London for the QoS premiere, nice chap and he knows his Bond for sure. Didn't really know who he was back then, only knew that he had something to do with Dr. Who (not really familiar with that, as Dr. Who is not very big in Germany). Had this happened after the release of Sherlock (he mentioned that he's working on somethng really interesting), I certainly would have behaved like a schoolboy 

 

Absolutely NOT! That egotist done enough damaged to Who in reshaping it as one man's vision (while insulting his fanbase with heinous glee) when it never was before he got the showrunner position. To let him near Bond would be letting an toddler play with a flamethrower while your too pissed out of your skull to notice the danger.

Edited by Admiral Messervey, 14 December 2014 - 12:19 AM.

[Bryce (003)]

 

 

Ken Watanabe would be a great Tanaka

 Would have been. He passed away a month or so ago. I'd love to see Bond return to Japan.

 

He's still alive and well, was shooting a film with Matthew McConaughey back in the summer.

 

Damn...I must have mis-read something. If he is, then cheers.