Lt. Commander
Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:27 PM
I beg to differ - his work during the 70s brought many spectacular movies which cemented his status as a great actor. "The Offense" and "The Man Who Would Be King" are just two examples.
The Man Who Would Be King is a true cinematic enigma. A very special movie united two very powerful and talented screen icons.
Lt. Commander
Posted 24 June 2014 - 09:10 AM
I beg to differ - his work during the 70s brought many spectacular movies which cemented his status as a great actor. "The Offense" and "The Man Who Would Be King" are just two examples.
Yes of course those cemented him as great actor, i meant that as well. For personal preference i just liked his 80s more.
Lieutenant
Posted 24 June 2014 - 11:00 AM
http://www.tracking-...s-in-the-works/
Sequel is in the works
Edited by Walecs, 24 June 2014 - 11:01 AM.
Lieutenant
Posted 24 June 2014 - 02:50 PM
I have nothing but goodwill toward this movie. I am very eager to see it and Brosnan deserves a new franchise.
Lt. Commander
Posted 25 June 2014 - 04:30 AM
Sweeet
Lieutenant
Posted 04 July 2014 - 06:40 PM
Just finished reading There Are No Spies the book that The November Man is based on.
Pretty damn good read actually. Although I don't recognise anything from the trailer in it.
Sub-Lieutenant
Posted 05 July 2014 - 12:23 PM
Just finished reading There Are No Spies the book that The November Man is based on.
Pretty damn good read actually. Although I don't recognise anything from the trailer in it.
You are correct! I own almost all of the November Man series and have always thought they would make a great movie series as well. Unfortunately there's not a character in the whole lot of books that seems to fit Brosnan and not a single shot in the trailer that remotely resembles the plot of There Are No Spies.
I'm quite disappointed.
Commander
Posted 05 July 2014 - 04:14 PM
Edited by Dustin, 05 July 2014 - 04:15 PM.
Lieutenant
Posted 06 July 2014 - 08:22 AM
I don't get why Brosnan fought a lot to make a movie based on this book saying something along the lines "it's a great story and it should be adapted" and then the story is changed.
Commander
Posted 06 July 2014 - 10:56 AM
Easy - because financial backers always want something that is the safest way (in their eyes) to get a lot of money. They do not care about source material, they want the brand name because it is easier to market "the movie based on a bestseller" than "a movie we cobbled together from conflicting ideas by people who have no creative impulse".
Now, this is not to say that this film will be bad. And the creative people involved certainly started out with the best intentions. But the movie making reality was simply this: "We will give you the money for a midrange action thriller that can be sold internationally because a former James Bond stars in it as a spy."
Lieutenant
Posted 06 July 2014 - 11:41 AM
"We will give you the money for a midrange action thriller that can be sold internationally because a former James Bond stars in it as a spy."
I think it's a combination of that - and the recent craze for so called "old man action". Not that I'm saying Pierce Brosnan is old... but he's certainly no spring chicken and audiences today seem to like seeing a more mature man kicking ass. The Expendables and the Taken movies seem to have created this sub-genre. They have spawned sequels and made a ton of money. Not only that - they are critic proof. They've all had awful reviews yet audiences cannot help themselves.
The November Man is a no brainer really. All the fans of Brosnan's Bond will go - and all the fans of those "Old Man Action" movies will go aswell. It's currently tracking so well that a sequel has already been all but greenlit.
Lt. Commander
Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:48 PM
The FIRST TRAILER has arrived!!!
Looks Bondian (well, Brosnan's character anyway).
https://www.youtube....h?v=p2zFH8Zruqo
Commander
Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:30 AM
I want to see this film!
And I also love this new poster: https://www.facebook...?type=1
In a year without a new Bond film this might quench the thirst.
Edited by SecretAgentFan, 24 July 2014 - 08:52 AM.
Commander
Posted 24 July 2014 - 02:31 PM
Wow. It's a real shame Pierce didn't get to show this slightly darker side of him during his tenure as Bond. This looks pretty cool, even if it does succumb to a lot of spy trope box ticking. Very impressed all the same.
Sub-Lieutenant
Posted 24 July 2014 - 02:50 PM
Could be his best Bond interpretation since The Tailor of Panama ;-)
Lt. Commander
Posted 24 July 2014 - 06:45 PM
The FIRST TRAILER has arrived!!!
Looks Bondian (well, Brosnan's character anyway).
He looks like he's not trying too hard, which is a good thing with Brosnan - he already had the ruthless, cold killer thing nailed in The Long Good Friday and The Fourth Protocol (his best two Bond performances IMO). I thought he tried to humanise Bond too much, or too often (if i'm being picky).
Sub-Lieutenant
Posted 25 July 2014 - 06:17 AM
PB did show his darker side during his Bond tenure.
Look at the hotel scene waiting for Paris.
Look at his confrontation with Dr. Kaufmann.
"I'm just a professional doing my job."
"So am I"
Bang!
and especially final scene with Electra in TWINE:
"I never miss."
Bang!
Edited by billy007, 25 July 2014 - 06:17 AM.
Lt. Commander
Posted 25 July 2014 - 01:23 PM
PB did show his darker side during his Bond tenure.
Look at the hotel scene waiting for Paris.
Look at his confrontation with Dr. Kaufmann.
"I'm just a professional doing my job."
"So am I"
Bang!
and especially final scene with Electra in TWINE:
"I never miss."
Bang!
All good examples - Brosnan high points. But they pale beside the darkness of Long Good Friday & Fourth Protocol. Too me those two performances gave us a glimpse of a new Bond as cool, ruthless and dangerous as Fleming intended and show us how poorly he was served by Eon and Purvis/Wade whom fell so short of giving him material and opportunity to fulfil that potential.
It's obvious now, after Casino Royale that it was no doubt Martin Cambell's influence on GE that gave us what i think is Brosnan's overall best movie - perhaps he wasn't as comfortable as he was in TND, better the script and direction offered far more opportunity to be Fleming's Bond. A particular stand out is the grittiness of the fight with Sean Bean at the end. This mirrored the ruthlessness of his opening exchange with M in the movie - fantastic stuff.
Who knows, perhaps Brosnan didn't want to play it so 'bad-ass', but whatever the reason it's our loss.
I'm guessing it's Eon's misdirection, since they have a habit of picking people (Dalton/Brossa/Craig) who'd make great Bonds in their own moulds, but then, as their movies continue, trying to make these actors all things to all men. Basically they crumble to the pressure to introduce more and more humour. It's already been indicated that they'll force more gags onto Craig and if so i see his tenure (after such a phenomenal start) going the way of Brosnan and becoming parody.
BTW, the TND hotel scene, sipping vodka, pistol silenced, as he waits for whomever Carver sends (Paris as it turns out) is my favourite Brosnan moment (in fact a franchise high note). But.... then it's followed by the most cheesy, soapy, Dynasty-esque seduction scene. It's so bad - the dialogue so unbelievably awful it verges on spoof and is truly depressing coming on the back of that great Bond moment. At least we then have the Kaufman scene which is superb ("I could shoot you from Stuttgart Mr Bond!"). Talk about the film having highs and lows!
Edited by Odd Jobbies, 25 July 2014 - 01:34 PM.
Commander
Posted 25 July 2014 - 01:45 PM
The influence of the studio executives are not to be underestimated. It´s obvious that Sony´s Amy Pascale is (was, according to Nikki Finke) very hands-on creatively and probably shared a very good relationship with Barbara Broccoli. So whatever happened so far in the Craig era is definitely also due to her. Before it was the MGM muddle, and their executives´ fear is probably what led EON (at the time relieved to get traction at the box office again) to go for the lowest common denominator.
Lt. Commander
Posted 25 July 2014 - 06:06 PM
Brosnan was terrible in the Fourth Protocol, and that type of role definitely doesn't suit him. But I think most actors would struggle with such a flat character.All good examples - Brosnan high points. But they pale beside the darkness of Long Good Friday & Fourth Protocol. Too me those two performances gave us a glimpse of a new Bond as cool, ruthless and dangerous as Fleming intended and show us how poorly he was served by Eon and Purvis/Wade whom fell so short of giving him material and opportunity to fulfil that potential.PB did show his darker side during his Bond tenure.
Look at the hotel scene waiting for Paris.
Look at his confrontation with Dr. Kaufmann.
"I'm just a professional doing my job."
"So am I"
Bang!
and especially final scene with Electra in TWINE:
"I never miss."
Bang!
Lt. Commander
Posted 25 July 2014 - 08:29 PM
Lt. Commander
Posted 03 August 2014 - 02:35 PM
After watching this preview. Pierce would be great in a NSNA style return to Bond. Even though it would never happen, but like Ed Helms says in The Hangover, "He's still got it."
Lt. Commander
Posted 09 August 2014 - 02:26 PM
So when is this coming out in theaters?
Lieutenant
Posted 09 August 2014 - 08:43 PM
August 27th
Lt. Commander
Posted 10 August 2014 - 03:01 AM
Ah okay it's coming out pretty soon. I will read reviews. Most likely, this movie won't be coming out in a theater in the town I will be in so I won't be going and seeing this.
Lt. Commander
Posted 10 August 2014 - 05:51 PM
I think Brosnan's best performance was "The Ghost Writer".
True. But i caught some of Seraphim Falls again last night - forgotten how great he was in that. He does tough guys who are still very fallible and mortal very well, e.g. his whimpering as he fixes his bullet wound in the snow - fantastic stuff.
Edit: Though IMHO The Matador is his best.
Edited by Odd Jobbies, 10 August 2014 - 07:31 PM.
Sub-Lieutenant
Posted 14 August 2014 - 05:25 PM
The first major trade review is in. And it's not pretty...
http://variety.com/2...man-1201282912/
Lt. Commander
Posted 14 August 2014 - 05:45 PM
Yikes!
Lt. Commander
Posted 14 August 2014 - 07:05 PM
Well the trailer's pretty accurate then.
Still, a bit of dumb fun with the Brossa is always welcome 
Lt. Commander
Posted 15 August 2014 - 12:14 AM
More trade reviews. Almost entirely negative. None positive.
Hollywood Reporter http://www.hollywood...n/review/725506 Mixed-to-fairly-good
Screen Daily http://www.screendai...contentID=40296
The Wrap http://www.thewrap.c...s-double-0-dud/
We Got This Covered http://wegotthiscove...review/#!bDE6f8
Metacritic http://www.metacriti...he-november-man
Rotten Tomatoes http://www.rottentom...e_november_man/