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What is the worst Visual Effect in a Bond film?


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#1 S K Y F A L L

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:54 PM

Certainly the release date has to be considered as technology evolved.

 

The car chase in DN isn't the prettiest thing they have filmed.

 

but there is one that has always stuck out to me. 

 

TSWLM;


Edited by Jim, 21 August 2013 - 06:00 AM.
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#2 Gobi-1

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 07:35 AM

The submarine explosion from Diamonds Are Forever.

 

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#3 Guy Haines

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 07:49 AM

I dare say I'm not the only fan to think this, but the computer generated effects in DAD when Bond escapes in the drag racer, goes over the cliff and somehow parachutes to safety.



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 11:49 AM

I can think of a number of rough special effects, although I do think this sometimes adds to the charm of these films. Some may have gotten cleaned up on Blu-ray.

 

-Goldfinger's mini jet model complete with strings

 

-The reentry of the SPECTRE spacecraft in YOLT seems almost animated and I remember this back when it was on network TV. It reminded me a bit of the Thunderbirds TV series 

 

-DAF was mentioned above and I'll just include all the laser destruction sequences. The ones that stand out for me are the glowing at the missile silo and the burning Chinese soldier staggering in front of the green screen 

 

-A lot in DAD, although I am not as offended by it as some are



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:21 PM

I dare say I'm not the only fan to think this, but the computer generated effects in DAD when Bond escapes in the drag racer, goes over the cliff and somehow parachutes to safety.

By far Bond's worst offense.



#6 Grard Bond

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:38 PM

The backward dive of Halle Berry in DAD was awfull fake!



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 11:36 PM

Okay SKYFALL, do us the favor of telling us specifically what in TSWLM is so fake. Don't keep us in suspense. And yes, I saw Jim's (entirely reasonable) edit.

 

My pick? Brosnan's free fall in the GoldenEye PTS. At least the earlier films had the excuse of hiding behind the technical limitations of their time. This hideous bit of fakery has no excuse.



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:08 AM

Sorry folks. I thought a screen grab would be ok. I'm still learning...

 

In TSWLM when Stromberg leaves with XXX in a boat that is lunched out of the sub there is a 2 second clip of a small boat with action figures in it. Just always sticks out to me.

 

An hour and 34 minutes into the film.

 

LOL that DAF satellite makes me laugh. They freeze the satellite in mid orbit whenever it fires its laser. 



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:08 PM

 

My pick? Brosnan's free fall in the GoldenEye PTS. At least the earlier films had the excuse of hiding behind the technical limitations of their time. This hideous bit of fakery has no excuse.

How could I forget that when it pretty much started the film off on a bad note right away? Part of what bothered me was the sequence was doing fine as it was. The  bungee jump was mind-blowing, but it seemed like they just had to keep pushing without any real return without making it seem like overkill.



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:21 PM

The rocket car in Die Another Day going off the edge of and then slamming into the face of the ice cliff while avoiding the Icarus satellite.  A very close runner-up would be the effect that immediately follows, which would be the wave on which Bond para-surfs. 



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Posted 24 August 2013 - 09:27 AM

DAD's para-surfing is leagues ahead of the other contenders.

 

I'd love to have been there in the studio screening to feel the tense silence in the room following that piece of utterly embarrassing crap.

 

A great pity, really, as the first half of the movie is pretty good.



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Posted 24 August 2013 - 12:58 PM

The rear projection ski chases.  Pick a film!



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Posted 24 August 2013 - 04:57 PM

I can think of a number of rough special effects, although I do think this sometimes adds to the charm of these films. Some may have gotten cleaned up on Blu-ray.

 

-Goldfinger's mini jet model complete with strings

 

-The reentry of the SPECTRE spacecraft in YOLT seems almost animated and I remember this back when it was on network TV. It reminded me a bit of the Thunderbirds TV series 

 

-DAF was mentioned above and I'll just include all the laser destruction sequences. The ones that stand out for me are the glowing at the missile silo and the burning Chinese soldier staggering in front of the green screen 

 

-A lot in DAD, although I am not as offended by it as some are

Yes, I remember being amused (bemused?) by the re-entry scene of the SPECTRE rocket in YOLT. Managed to land in that volcano with pinpoint accuracy, and without parachutes -  neither of the 1960s space superpowers managed a landing like that! ;)   Also, although not strictly special effects but stock footage, I had to chuckle when the Soviet spacecraft is launched - it is clearly a Gemini/Titan II stack lifting off from the then Cape Kennedy, right down to a glimpse of palm trees in the foreground. I wonder if the editors got the stock footage in the wrong order? Later in the film, when the second US spacecraft blasts off, the rocket shown looks like an Atlas/Agena. I appreciate the film makers might have had trouble getting shots of a real Russian rocket, but wouldn't that footage have done instead?

 

As for DAF, the laser scene I like, not least because of John Barry's "007 And Counting" track, but the explosion caused by that US missile blowing up looked a bit underwhelming.



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Posted 24 August 2013 - 05:22 PM

"What sharp little eyes you got."

 

The rear projection ski chases.  Pick a film!

 

This gave me the biggest laugh, just hilarious. 



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Posted 28 August 2013 - 06:05 AM

The ice-tsunami-para-surfing scene in DAD. The most offensive to the viewer by a wide margin. Who, exactly, thought that this would be a good idea?



#16 Grard Bond

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 02:25 PM

You mean.... it wasn't REAL???? :blink:



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Posted 28 August 2013 - 05:40 PM

Kanaga blowing up like a balloon at the end in Live and Let Die has my vote hands-down.  And here's why -  

 

As bad as they are by today's standards, the above-mentioned examples (to be sure, they are all very good examples) each seemed to be delivered to the audience proudly... as if the films' directors, et al saw the final print and said to themselves, "Hey, that looks great!"  

 

However, when it comes to Kanaga rising in the air and exploding, that one scene is really blurry (as if someone zoomed-in with a camcorder until the picture became almost pixelated).  That fact that brief scene is so "fuzzy" makes me think that even the powers-that-be knew it looked like crap and they did some camera "trickery" to blur it up for the audience.  In others words, unlike the aforementioned examples, even the producers knew that scene was beneath the standards of a 007 movie (or 1972-73 standards for that matter) and were embarrassed by it.  Of course, there's always the possibility that I've just got a poor quality version of Live and Let Die on DVD...  :blush:



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Posted 28 August 2013 - 06:58 PM

The ones that stand out for me are the glowing at the missile silo and the burning Chinese soldier staggering in front of the green screen.

 

WINNER. HANDS DOWN.



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Posted 28 August 2013 - 10:30 PM

Double Naught spy is right! All the other ones are bad too, but the "Kanaga blowing" is the winner! I completely forgot about that one, but that was the worst special effect ever in a Bondmovie!


Edited by Grard Bond, 28 August 2013 - 10:31 PM.


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 01:03 PM

I think you have to put all of these howlers in their chronological context.

 

Sure Kanaga blowing up looks crap now, even in the 80s it seemed pretty laughable, but who knows how the audience viewed it in 1973 - it may well have been on par with the tawdry FX of it's contemporaries released that year.

 

However, the one stand-out howler for me is, as i've already said above, the para-surfing in DAD. There was no excuse for it to look so unbelievably er, well, unbelievable...

 

For something this bad in 2002 you'll have to look pretty hard. If you can find cgi this bad from 2002 then i'll bet it's budget is nothing like that of DAD.

 

A true low for the franchise.


Edited by Odd Jobbies, 31 August 2013 - 01:05 PM.


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 03:38 AM

Apart from it being crap, I also think the para surfing in DAD was also used to fill up some screen time. Awful.

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 11:39 AM

I think you have to put all of these howlers in their chronological context.

 

Sure Kanaga blowing up looks crap now, even in the 80s it seemed pretty laughable, but who knows how the audience viewed it in 1973 - it may well have been on par with the tawdry FX of it's contemporaries released that year.

 

 

This member of the audience in 1973 thought it was stupid.



#23 Grard Bond

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 02:04 PM

You right ofcourse. That was not the standard at that time. Before 1973 we already had seen SFX movies like 2001 a Space Odyssey from Kubrick.


Edited by Grard Bond, 04 September 2013 - 05:20 PM.


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 03:34 PM

The DAD para-sailing has to win here, since it was done at a time when CGI was definitely able to achieve more.



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 05:14 PM

The backward dive from Halle from the same movie is maybe even worse.


Edited by Grard Bond, 04 September 2013 - 05:27 PM.


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 05:23 PM

But... I still think the LALD Kanaga blowing up is the worst SFX ever in a Bondmovie. It is so bad that it looks like something out of an Ed Wood movie, like Plan 9 from Outer Space.


Edited by Grard Bond, 04 September 2013 - 05:28 PM.


#27 Odd Jobbies

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 07:14 PM

You right ofcourse. That was not the standard at that time. Before 1973 we already had seen SFX movies like 2001 a Space Odyssey from Kubrick.

 

I think Douglas Trumbull's magnificent work in 2001: A Space Odyssey was peerless for quite some time and it doesn't ring true to use that unusually remarkable blip as an example of the general standard of FX in the late 60s/early 70s. The vast amount of stuff audiences were exposed to was fairly comparable to Bond at that time.



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 12:44 PM

I thought the CGI snake during the free running chase in Casino Royale looked pretty bad. I know that it would be cruel to have a real snake and mongoose actually fight just for the sake of a film, but they could have at least tried to make it look convinising.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:34 PM

-The soldiers in-front of the green screen in DAF, lol.

-The para-sailing from DAD is probably the worst for the amount of screen time it gets in-comparison to brief clips.  

-Kanaga blowing up was pretty rough, was clearly a balloon exploding. 

-My vote is still for TSWLM when Stromberg and Triple X are launched out of the oil tanker and they cut to a 2 second clip of action figures in a toy boat which looks like it was filmed in a bathtub.



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Posted 14 September 2013 - 09:15 PM

Anything in Die Another Day