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[SecretAgentFan]

Updated List:

1. The Spy Who Loved Me A
2. Casino Royale A
3. Goldfinger A
4. Goldeneye A-
5. Moonraker A-
6. From Russia With Love A-
7. The Living Daylights A-
8. The World Is Not Enough B+
9. For Your Eyes Only B+
10. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service B
11. Tomorrow Never Dies B
12. Octopussy B
13. Die Another Day B-
14. You Only Live Twice B-
15. Live And Let Die B-
16. Thunderball C+
17. The Man With The Golden Gun C
18. Diamonds Are Forever C
19. Dr.No C
20. Never Say Never Again D
21. Licence To Kill D
22. A View To A Kill D

But in the end, of course, I love them all

[john.steed]

I also love them all, but here is my list for today. Maybe it will change tomorrow.

1. Goldfinger
2. Spy Who Loved Me, The
3. For Your Eyes Only
4. You Only Live Twice
5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
6. Live and Let Die
7. From Russia with Love
8. Thunderball
9. Diamonds Are Forever
10. World is Not Enough, The
11. Living Daylights, The
12. Never Say Never Never Again
13. Octopussy
14. Moonraker
15. GoldenEye
16. Dr. No
17. Casino Royale
18. Man with the Golden Gun, The
19. View to a Kill, A
20. Die Another Day
21. License to Kill
22. Tomorrow Never Dies

[SecretAgentFan]

Fascinating. Would you like to elaborate why CR is left behind? (I´m really interested and don´t criticize your opinion.)

[john.steed]

Fascinating. Would you like to elaborate why CR is left behind? (I´m really interested and don´t criticize your opinion.)

Thank you for asking.

First of, there is the competition. I have been a Bond fan for a long time. My first 007 film was OHMSS which I saw when it was first released. I loved it and was able to see the four of the first five Connery Bond on rerelease soon after. When the Moore period came, I loved most of his films as well. My loved for these early Bonds can be seen in my rankings. All of my top 9 films were from 1981 or earlier. I guess that I love these films so much it would take something that really appealed to me to crack the list.

Now, some people really appreciate CR for it being comparitely realistic to many of the films. That is not something that affects me one way or the other. Two of my favorites are some of the most realistic films (FRWL and OHMSS) but two of the least realistic are also there (TSWLM and YOLT). One thing that does push down CR for me is the type of violence. Like LTK, another one down on my list, CR is rather gritty in its violence. I just do not like that in a Bond film.

Also, unlike others, I was never interested in "How Bond became Bond".

So those are some of the reasons. That said, as I have done since 1969, I can't wait for the next 007 film.

Bill

[MarkA]

CR is rather gritty in its violence. I just do not like that in a Bond film.

That is one thing I love about Casino Royale. To me the closest to Fleming the better.

1. From Russia With Love
2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
3. Goldfinger
4. Thunderball
5. Dr No
6. Tomorrow Never Dies
7. You Only Live Twice
8. Goldeneye
9. The Living Daylights
10. Live and Let Die
11. The Man with the Golden Gun
12. Licence to Kill
13. Diamonds Are Forever
14. For Your Eyes Only
15. The World is not Enough
16. The Spy Who Loved Me
17. Moonraker
18. Die Another Day
19. Casino Royale (1967)
20. Octopussy
21. A View to A Kill

22. And way down the bottom from the rest�
Never Say Never Again

My list in 2003 I think pretty much stays the same. With slotting New Casino Royale in at no 6 after Dr No. Still can't touch those early Connery's or OHMSS. Also might swap Thunderball or Goldfinger round, never can decide.

[john.steed]

CR is rather gritty in its violence. I just do not like that in a Bond film.

That is one thing I love about Casino Royale. To me the closest to Fleming the better.

That is fine by me. I think that one reason the series has survived so long is that the emphasis of the films changes from time to time.

[SecretAgentFan]

Fascinating. Would you like to elaborate why CR is left behind? (I´m really interested and don´t criticize your opinion.)

Thank you for asking.

First of, there is the competition. I have been a Bond fan for a long time. My first 007 film was OHMSS which I saw when it was first released. I loved it and was able to see the four of the first five Connery Bond on rerelease soon after. When the Moore period came, I loved most of his films as well. My loved for these early Bonds can be seen in my rankings. All of my top 9 films were from 1981 or earlier. I guess that I love these films so much it would take something that really appealed to me to crack the list.

Now, some people really appreciate CR for it being comparitely realistic to many of the films. That is not something that affects me one way or the other. Two of my favorites are some of the most realistic films (FRWL and OHMSS) but two of the least realistic are also there (TSWLM and YOLT). One thing that does push down CR for me is the type of violence. Like LTK, another one down on my list, CR is rather gritty in its violence. I just do not like that in a Bond film.

Also, unlike others, I was never interested in "How Bond became Bond".

So those are some of the reasons. That said, as I have done since 1969, I can't wait for the next 007 film.

Bill

Thank you, Bill. Very well put and understable. I don´t enjoy violence on screen (or in life) either. I wouldn´t mind future Bond films cutting back on the violence because it is not IMO what a good Bond film (or Fleming´s books) make interesting. Unfortunately, today´s audiences seem to expect it and find films without violence "old school" and "boring".

[MarkA]

I wouldn´t mind future Bond films cutting back on the violence because it is not IMO what a good Bond film (or Fleming´s books) make interesting. Unfortunately, today's audiences seem to expect it and find films without violence "old school" and "boring".

I don't think the violence in Casino Royale was violence for violences sake, but was there to establish we have made a significant step back to the Bond of Fleming rather then the too fantasy (IMO) world the films have stepped into. I would much rather have a hero bleed when hit. To me it is so much more honest and in many respects illustrates what a nasty world Bond lives in. I am so glad we are far removed now from the world of Roger Moore.

[DamnCoffee]

Updated List:

1. The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
2. Casino Royale (2006)
3. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service (1969)
4. From Russia With Love (1963)
5. Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)
6. Octopussy (1983)
7. Thunderball (1965)
8. Goldfinger (1964)
9. Moonraker (1979)
10. Licence to Kill (1989)
11. Live and Let Die (1973)
12. The Living Daylights (1987)
13. Dr. No (1962)
14. The World is not Enough (1999)
15. For Your Eyes Only (1981)
16. GoldenEye (1995)
17. Die Another Day (2002)
18. The Man with the Golden Gun (1974)
19. Diamonds Are Forever (1971)
20. A View to a Kill (1985)
21 Never Say Never Again (1983)
22. You Only Live Twice (1967)
23. Casino Royale (1967)

[sharpshooter]

EDIT

[tdalton]

I've given up on outright ranking them, so I'll just group them into tiers instead:

Great idea for a ranking system. I've often found that it's very difficult to rank the films in a 1-21 format, so I think that I'll make an attempt at this type of a ranking system.


Tier 1:

• Licence To Kill
• For Your Eyes Only
• The Living Daylights
• From Russia With Love
• Casino Royale
• Dr. No

What I think separates these films from all the rest are the performances by the actors portraying Bond. All of the films are very, very good in their own rights, but are elevated even moreso by the top-notch performances by the actor in the lead role, especially For Your Eyes Only which features Roger Moore's best performance in the role.

Tier 2:

• Thunderball
• Live and Let Die
• On Her Majesty's Secret Service
• The Spy Who Loved Me
• Octpussy

These films are also amongst the best in the franchise, but they do lack something that is present in the Tier 1 films, which not only rank as great Bond films but great films in general.

Tier 3:

• A View to a Kill
• You Only Live Twice

Both of these films are, I think, better than they're often given credit for, but not good enough to be ranked amongst the best in the franchise either. AVTAK is a favorite of mine, although I certainly acknowledge the fact that it's not nearly as well made as any of the films in Tiers 1 & 2.

Tier 4

• Diamonds Are Forever
• Tomorrow Never Dies
• Moonraker

These are the films that I rank towards the bottom of the list, but aren't quite as bad as some of the films to follow.

Tier 5

• GoldenEye
• Goldfinger
• Die Another Day
• The World Is Not Enough
• The Man With the Golden Gun

These are the films that I find to be the worst in the franchise, although which one I find to be the worst often changes.

[Fiona Volpe lover]

UPDATED LIST,
because I've watched them all again the last few weeks. Also means that some of my reviews on the reviews threads are in the wrong order now and can almost be discounted, I might re-do them eventually. Most notably Die Another Day slipped down a bit.

1/ On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2/ You Only Live Twice
3/ Thunderball
4/ Casino Royale
5/ Moonraker
6/ From Russia With Love
7/ The Living Daylights
8/ Octopussy
9/ Live And Let Die
10/For Your Eyes Only
11/The Spy Who Loved Me
12/Die Another Day
13/Diamonds Are Forever
14/Goldfinger
15/Tomorrow Never Dies
16/The World Is Not Enough
17/Dr No
18/Never Say Never Again
18/The Man With The Golden Gun
19/Goldeneye
20/A View To A Kill
21/Licence To Kill

[PrinceKamalKhan]

UPDATED LIST,
because I've watched them all again the last few weeks. Also means that some of my reviews on the reviews threads are in the wrong order now and can almost be discounted, I might re-do them eventually. Most notably Die Another Day slipped down a bit.

1/ On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2/ You Only Live Twice
3/ Thunderball
4/ Casino Royale
5/ Moonraker
6/ From Russia With Love
7/ The Living Daylights
8/ Octopussy
9/ Live And Let Die
10/For Your Eyes Only
11/The Spy Who Loved Me
12/Die Another Day
13/Diamonds Are Forever
14/Goldfinger
15/Tomorrow Never Dies
16/The World Is Not Enough
17/Dr No
18/Never Say Never Again
18/The Man With The Golden Gun
19/Goldeneye
20/A View To A Kill
21/Licence To Kill

My current top 8 are your top 8. TB-YOLT-OHMSS rivals FRWL-GF-TB as the best 3 film period for Bond IMHO.

Here's my current list:

001) Thunderball
002) From Russia With Love
003) The Living Daylights
004) On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
005) Casino Royale
006) Moonraker
007) You Only Live Twice
008) Octopussy
009) Goldfinger
0010)Dr. No
0011)The Spy Who Loved Me
0012)The Man with the Golden Gun
0013)Diamonds Are Forever
0014)Die Another Day
0015)Licence to Kill
0016)Tomorrow Never Dies
0017)For Your Eyes Only
0018)GoldenEye
0019)Live and Let Die
0020)The World is not Enough
0021)A View to a Kill

Generally my top 11 stay as follows:

All the 1960s Bond films, TLD, CR and my 3 favorite Moores: MR, OP and TSWLM. Objectively speaking, a good argument can be made than TSWLM, DN and GF are better films than MR, YOLT, and OP but I feel the latter 3 are more underrated and provide some improvements over TSWLM, DN and GF respectively. Love all of 'em though.

[Fiona Volpe lover]

UPDATED LIST,
because I've watched them all again the last few weeks. Also means that some of my reviews on the reviews threads are in the wrong order now and can almost be discounted, I might re-do them eventually. Most notably Die Another Day slipped down a bit.

1/ On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2/ You Only Live Twice
3/ Thunderball
4/ Casino Royale
5/ Moonraker
6/ From Russia With Love
7/ The Living Daylights
8/ Octopussy
9/ Live And Let Die
10/For Your Eyes Only
11/The Spy Who Loved Me
12/Die Another Day
13/Diamonds Are Forever
14/Goldfinger
15/Tomorrow Never Dies
16/The World Is Not Enough
17/Dr No
18/Never Say Never Again
18/The Man With The Golden Gun
19/Goldeneye
20/A View To A Kill
21/Licence To Kill

My current top 8 are your top 8. TB-YOLT-OHMSS rivals FRWL-GF-TB as the best 3 film period for Bond IMHO.

Here's my current list:

001) Thunderball
002) From Russia With Love
003) The Living Daylights
004) On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
005) Casino Royale
006) Moonraker
007) You Only Live Twice
008) Octopussy
009) Goldfinger
0010)Dr. No
0011)The Spy Who Loved Me
0012)The Man with the Golden Gun
0013)Diamonds Are Forever
0014)Die Another Day
0015)Licence to Kill
0016)Tomorrow Never Dies
0017)For Your Eyes Only
0018)GoldenEye
0019)Live and Let Die
0020)The World is not Enough
0021)A View to a Kill

Generally my top 11 stay as follows:

All the 1960s Bond films, TLD, CR and my 3 favorite Moores: MR, OP and TSWLM. Objectively speaking, a good argument can be made than TSWLM, DN and GF are better films than MR, YOLT, and OP but I feel the latter 3 are more underrated and provide some improvements over TSWLM, DN and GF respectively. Love all of 'em though.

We have quite similar tastes mate! I especially agree with your last statement. For example, maybe MR is inferior to TSWLM as a whole film, but I think in some ways it improves on it and takes the Bond 'formula' further and to more interesting heights/depths [whichever way you look at it!]

[Conlazmoodalbrocra]

It's been a while since I updated my list. No major changes:

1. Goldeneye
2. Licence To Kill
3. Casino Royale
4. OHMSS
5. Live And Let Die
6. Dr. No
7. The World Is Not Enough
8. For Your Eyes Only
9. The Living Daylights
10. A View To A Kill
11. Octopussy
12. Tomorrow Never Dies
13. From Russia With Love
14. The Spy Who Loved Me
15. You Only Live Twice
16. Goldfinger
17. Moonraker
18. Thunderball
19. The Man With The Golden Gun
20. Die Another Day
21. Diamonds Are Forever

[Kristian]

1. From Russia With Love
2. The World Is Not Enough
3. Licence to Kill
4. Casino Royale
5. The Living Daylights
6. For Your Eyes Only
7. The Spy Who Loved Me
8. Goldfinger
9. GoldenEye
10. Thunderball
11. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
12. Octopussy
13. Tomorrow Never Dies
14. Diamonds Are Forever
15. The Man With The Golden Gun
16. You Only Live Twice
17. Dr. No
18. Moonraker
19. Live and Let Die
20. A View to A Kill
21. Die Another Day

Edited by Kristian, 18 October 2008 - 08:29 PM.

[Cruiserweight]

Updated List:
1.For Your Eyes Only
2.Casino Royale
3.The Living Daylights
4.Diamonds Are Forever
5.Tommrow Never Dies
6.Licence To Kill
7.Octopussy
8.On Her Majesty's Secret Service
9.From Russia With Love
10.Thunderball
11.The Spy Who Loved Me
12.Moonraker
13.The World Is Not Enough
14.The Man With The Golden Gun
15.A View To A Kill
16.GoldenEye
17.Live And Let Die
18.Die Another Day
19.Goldfinger
20.You Only Live Twice
21.Dr. No

[eddychaput]

Hmm... There are some interesting lists. I'm always curious when I see a film like Diamonds are forever near the top of someone's list (I don't like it very much).

here's my attempt at making a 007 movie list:

1-From Russia With Love
2-On Her Majesty's Secret Service
3-Casino Royale
4-The Living Daylights
5-The World Is Not Enough
6-Thunderball
7-Dr. No
8-Goldeneye
9-Goldfinger
10-For Your Eyes Only
11-Live and Let Die
12-Licence To Kill
13-You Only Live Twice
14-Octopussy
I really like of the above 14 films (other than the top 5, the ranking doesn't mean much)

Here are some I certainly enjoy, but have certain reservations about:

15-The Spy Who Loved Me
16-Tomorrow Never Dies
17-The Man With The Golden Gun


And here are the ones I really don't like

18-Diamonds are Forever
19-A View to A Kill
20-Die Another Day
21-Moonraker

[ChrissBond007]

Hmm... There are some interesting lists. I'm always curious when I see a film like Diamonds are forever near the top of someone's list (I don't like it very much).

here's my attempt at making a 007 movie list:

1-From Russia With Love
2-On Her Majesty's Secret Service
3-Casino Royale
4-The Living Daylights
5-The World Is Not Enough
6-Thunderball
7-Dr. No
8-Goldeneye
9-Goldfinger
10-For Your Eyes Only
11-Live and Let Die
12-Licence To Kill
13-You Only Live Twice
14-Octopussy
I really like of the above 14 films (other than the top 5, the ranking doesn't mean much)

Here are some I certainly enjoy, but have certain reservations about:

15-The Spy Who Loved Me
16-Tomorrow Never Dies
17-The Man With The Golden Gun


And here are the ones I really don't like

18-Diamonds are Forever
19-A View to A Kill
20-Die Another Day
21-Moonraker

Nice list eddychaput, welcome to CBN.

[Vauxhall]

Big changes in my rankings lately, and having seen the latest entry, I thought I might as well try and slot it into my list based on first impressions:

• Casino Royale
• On Her Majesty's Secret Service
• GoldenEye
• Thunderball
• From Russia With Love
• Quantum of Solace
• Moonraker
• Licence to Kill
• The Spy Who Loved Me
• Goldfinger
• For Your Eyes Only
• The Living Daylights
• Tomorrow Never Dies
• Dr. No
• Octopussy
• The Man With the Golden Gun
• Die Another Day
• Diamonds Are Forever
• You Only Live Twice
• Live and Let Die
• The World Is Not Enough
• A View to a Kill

[BlackFire]

1. Casino Royale
2. Goldeneye
3. The World is not Enough
4. License to Kill
5. Dr. No
6. Die Another Day
7. The Living Daylights
8. Tomorrow Never Dies
9. From Russia with Love
10. Live and let Die
11. The Man with the Golden Gun
12. Diamonds are Forever
13. You Only Live Twice
14. Goldfinger
15. Thunderball
16. Moonraker
17. On Her Majesty's secret service
18. For Your Eyes Only
19. Octopussy
20. The Spy who Loved Me
21. A View to a Kill

Edited by BlackFire, 01 November 2008 - 04:13 PM.

[DamnCoffee]

Updated List!

1. Quantum of Solace (2008)
2. The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
3. Casino Royale (2006)
4. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service (1969)
5. From Russia With Love (1963)
6. Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)
7. Octopussy (1983)
8. Thunderball (1965)
9. Goldfinger (1964)
10. Moonraker (1979)
11. Licence to Kill (1989)
12. Live and Let Die (1973)
13. The Living Daylights (1987)
14. Dr. No (1962)
15. The World is not Enough (1999)
16. For Your Eyes Only (1981)
17. GoldenEye (1995)
18. Die Another Day (2002)
19. The Man with the Golden Gun (1974)
20. Diamonds Are Forever (1971)
21. A View to a Kill (1985)
22 Never Say Never Again (1983)
23. You Only Live Twice (1967)
24. Casino Royale (1967)

[bondrules]

Updated List!

1. Quantum of Solace (2008)

WOW !!!

Edited by bondrules, 01 November 2008 - 08:38 PM.

[DamnCoffee]

Updated List!

1. Quantum of Solace (2008)

WOW !!!

Yeah, I consider it now to be number one. It might just be the excitment, but upon further viewings, I doubt it will go any lower than my top 5.

[FredJB007]

1. From Russia With Love
2. Goldfinger
3. Casino Royale
4. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
5. Thunderball
6. For Your Eyes Only
7. Goldeneye
8. Dr. No
9. The Spy Who Loved Me
10.You Only Live Twice
11.The Living Daylights
12.Diamonds Are Forever
13.Live and Let Die
14.The World is Not Enough
15.Octopussy
16.Licence to Kill
17.Tomorrow Never Dies
18.Die Another Day
19.Moonraker
20.The Man With the Golden Gun
21.A View to a Kill

Can't wait to see QoS and rank it!!!!!!

[R Thornhill]

The Great
1 From Russia With Love
2 Goldfinger
3 Thunderball
4 License to Kill
5 Quantum of Solace
6 On Her Majesty's Secret Service
The Good
7 The Living Daylights
8 You Only Live Twice
9 The Spy Who Loved Me
10 Casino Royale
11 Live and Let Die
12 Dr No
The Fun
13 Diamonds are Forever
14 Moonraker
15 For Your Eyes Only
16 Octopussy
17 A View To A Kill
18 The Man With the Golden Gun
The Lost Years
19 The World is Not Enough
20 Tomorrow Never Dies
21 Goldeneye
22 Die Another Day

[dinovelvet]

The Lost Years
19 The World is Not Enough
20 Tomorrow Never Dies
21 Goldeneye
22 Die Another Day

LOL...big Pierce fan?

[R Thornhill]

The Lost Years
19 The World is Not Enough
20 Tomorrow Never Dies
21 Goldeneye
22 Die Another Day

LOL...big Pierce fan?

The poor guy. And I don't mind him at all. Early 80s C Broccoli era Bonds would have been fine with him. But the films between LTK and CR just seem off to me. Like they were made by a rival company. With rotten ideas.

[jaguar007]

1. From Russia With Love
2. OHMSS
3. Casino Royale
4. The Living Daylights
5. Goldfinger
6. Thunderball
7.For Your Eyes Only
8. TSWLM
9.Dr NO
10.LTK
11. TND
12.GE
13.YOLT
14.LALD
15.DAF
16.OP
17.TMWTGG
18. MR
19. DAD
20.TWINE
21.AVTAK

[Fiona Volpe lover]

It had to be done. Maybe QOS will go up when I next decide to see it!
1/ On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2/ You Only Live Twice
3/ Thunderball
4/ Casino Royale
5/ Moonraker
6/ From Russia With Love
7/ The Living Daylights
8/ Octopussy
9/ Live And Let Die
10/For Your Eyes Only
11/The Spy Who Loved Me
12/Die Another Day
13/Diamonds Are Forever
14/Goldfinger
15/Tomorrow Never Dies
16/The World Is Not Enough
17/Dr No
18/Never Say Never Again
18/The Man With The Golden Gun
19/Goldeneye
20/A View To A Kill
21/Licence To Kill
23/Quantum Of Solace