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#31 Guy Haines

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:16 PM

That's a cool idea. It would be interesting to have a situation where the evil organization, be it Quantum or Spectre or the Guild of Calamitous Intent or whoever, suddenly has to put the kibosh on a fellow supervillain because he's just too crazy and threatens to queer the pitch. So they reach out to Bond, the only man they can really trust, and give him the resources to eliminate the threat. Suddenly Bond is being escorted around by waxy-skinned Russian guys in matching jumpsuits; he can whip out a phone and call in a helicopter attack whenever he wants; he's even given access to a Ken Adam set and a chifforobe full of Mao suits. Or something like that. Anyway, Bond is effectively an honorary villain for the duration of the film. Could be a recipe for silly excess, or it could be a fun, genre-bending way to end Craig's era.


I must admit I wasn't so much thinking of Bond as an honorary villain as the crime syndicate realising they had seriously miscalculated - they hadn't checked the resume of the mad scientist they had hired for their "pay up or else" plan. It could either work as an alliance similar to TSWLM without the "loved me" element, or Bond tackling the villain, stopping his insane scheme, only for the villain's backers to turn up and reveal that they had been secretly nudging 007 in the right direction all along - not for altruistic reasons but because a secret global crime syndicate can't hold to ransom a world that no longer exists.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:19 PM

How about geopoltics that changes the landscape of the world and create a new world order, but only focusing on Europe only that rebirth the start of the USSR or Nazi again. I think some kind of bioweapon plot would work that would divide Europe up and damage relations. It would be something all intelligence agency would be involve in and "save the world kind of threat"

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 06:56 AM

I want to see 007 at work; not a business as usual Bond plot but I want to see what he actually does for a living. We know he's an assassin but what else does he do as part of his work for Her Majesty's Secret Service?

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 07:47 AM

According to Fleming Bonds "regular job" as a Secret Service operative consists of office work - browsing and reading espionage reports, etc. He's a desk rat.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:20 AM

Even though it really may be too much, I would like to see SPECTRE destroy and/or absorb Quantum. Or maybe even have the two organizations fight each other with Bond caught in the crossfire, or be hunted by both. A bit much, I'll admit.

#36 Guy Haines

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:47 PM

I want to see 007 at work; not a business as usual Bond plot but I want to see what he actually does for a living. We know he's an assassin but what else does he do as part of his work for Her Majesty's Secret Service?


According to Ian Fleming's novels, admin.& paperwork, and in the novel "Goldfinger" doing the night shift receiving reports from MI6 agents abroad. Working on a book about self defence - again this is taken from "Goldfinger". Out of hours, drinking, smoking, gambling, the odd round of golf, and affairs with married women.

Not bad for a "middle ranking member" of the British Civil Service on a modest salary. The adventures abroad come every now and then, and usually mean a spell recuperating afterwards. In between, if Fleming's novels are a guide, it is the "soft life".

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:23 AM

Well we still have 3 novels that have yet to be truly adapted in YOLT, MR and DAF (4 if you include TSWLM, but that one isn't allowed). So they could go for a better adaptation of those.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:47 AM


I want to see 007 at work; not a business as usual Bond plot but I want to see what he actually does for a living. We know he's an assassin but what else does he do as part of his work for Her Majesty's Secret Service?


According to Ian Fleming's novels, admin.& paperwork, and in the novel "Goldfinger" doing the night shift receiving reports from MI6 agents abroad. Working on a book about self defence - again this is taken from "Goldfinger". Out of hours, drinking, smoking, gambling, the odd round of golf, and affairs with married women.

Not bad for a "middle ranking member" of the British Civil Service on a modest salary. The adventures abroad come every now and then, and usually mean a spell recuperating afterwards. In between, if Fleming's novels are a guide, it is the "soft life".


You're right of course. I have read the books but it's been awhile. I guess what i mean is a change of pace would be interesting to me. The last few films have really explored Bond's psyche in a good way. That being said, some scenes of Bond not being on an adventure sounds good to me too - just a hint on film of what he actually does.

I really like the DAF novel (and MR and YOLT) but I can't see anything from them that could be adapted that hasn't been half-used already...

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 10:46 AM

I hope Quantum returns for the next two. It doesn't have to play a big part in 24 - more like in Casino Royale where it's clear that Quantum are behind the plot but Bond's beef isn't with them directly. Then 25 can be about Bond taking on Quantum. So basically these should be Thunderball and YOLT for the Craig era; except I hope they're more like FRWL or OHMSS - that is, more low-key with the emphasis on espionage and intrigue. That said, Flemings plot of Moonraker is worth doing justice on the big screen instead of the 1979 travesty we had. I'd also welcome incorporating elements of the short stories into the films, such as From A View To A Kill which would make an excellent first act for Bond's next mission.

As for the issues listed in the OP: terrorism's still very topical; economic collapse (it was important but not explored in GoldenEye) would also suit.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 05:44 AM

"Grabbed from the headlines" always bombs, IMO! I know QoS didn't have writers, so maybe it would've worked, but I remember everyone talking about how current and relevant it was gonna be. "Oh I see, oil and water." It ended up bein shitty.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 07:18 PM

I'm afraid I'm all gassed out. "At least" doesn't cut it for me. I'm so tired of it, it disrupted the moment for me during the Skyfall seige. Next time I'll probably be actively looking for it, which is not good. Whether the gas tank escape is contrived or not, it's boring and beneath Bond. Find another way. An unexpected way. That's what the old films did.

Like when he shot gasoline barrels to get away from Morzeny? :P

Really, that only goes further to prove your point.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 08:24 PM


I'm afraid I'm all gassed out. "At least" doesn't cut it for me. I'm so tired of it, it disrupted the moment for me during the Skyfall seige. Next time I'll probably be actively looking for it, which is not good. Whether the gas tank escape is contrived or not, it's boring and beneath Bond. Find another way. An unexpected way. That's what the old films did.

Like when he shot gasoline barrels to get away from Morzeny? :P

Really, that only goes further to prove your point.

My dear double-oh-twelve. Must you always knock me down just to pick me up? :)

Even Pierce was able to find a clever alternative in his gas tank scene. Twice, actually. As a volatile protective barrier in GE and as a door-making projectile in DAD!

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 05:38 PM



I'm afraid I'm all gassed out. "At least" doesn't cut it for me. I'm so tired of it, it disrupted the moment for me during the Skyfall seige. Next time I'll probably be actively looking for it, which is not good. Whether the gas tank escape is contrived or not, it's boring and beneath Bond. Find another way. An unexpected way. That's what the old films did.

Like when he shot gasoline barrels to get away from Morzeny? :P

Really, that only goes further to prove your point.

My dear double-oh-twelve. Must you always knock me down just to pick me up? :)

I'm getting the mental image of Tim Curry and Michael McKean in Clue right now.

Saddest of all is that the illustrious Mythbusters proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that it's not even possible. (Unless you're firing .50 cal tracer rounds about 100 per second.)

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 05:44 PM

Saddest of all is that the illustrious Mythbusters proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that it's not even possible.

In an ironic twist, maybe it goes to show how good Bond really is then?

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:37 PM

I would like to see Bond 24 continue the path of previous two Bond film that address world issues......In CR it takes about the financial of terrorism, water security in QOS kind of and cyber warfare in SF

I think Bond 24 should focus on a world issue that has been going on and that should be addressed like food security