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Purvis & Wade out - John Logan solely penning Bond 24
#31
Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:00 AM
#32
Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:02 AM
As long as they don´t bring Arnold back. Kleinman, they can keep.It's starting to look like B24 will be the first Craig film in which there is no major vestige of the Brosnan era.
So we´ve got Logan, Craig, Fiennes, Harris, ..., now all we need is Deakins and Mendes back.
#33
Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:03 AM
#34
Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:03 AM
Yes, they were malleable.
Yes, but were they really?
not sure why P&W are hated so much as they were partly responsible for two of the most liked films in the series CR and SF
Barbara and Michael kept using them. they must have been doing something right .
#35
Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:18 AM
Yes, they were malleable.
Yes, but were they really?
not sure why P&W are hated so much as they were partly responsible for two of the most liked films in the series CR and SF
Barbara and Michael kept using them. they must have been doing something right .
Everybody is when dealing with EON. Otherwise you can either walk or are pushed out. That's what history suggests and it's worked well.
#36
Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:53 AM
To some extent, they're just whipping boys. If they're such hacks, then what about the producers who kept hiring them? After CR, I've been inclined to tolerate P&W, and look upon them as serviceable providers of raw Bond plot material. As long as their work receives some polish from a screenwriter more attuned to dialogue and human nature, I'd be happy to see them stay. But by the same token, I'm not terribly sad to see them go.
My thoughts entirely. Left on their own (DAD) they're a disaster, but CR, and now SF, it's clear that they're at their best when someone else comes in after them. Everyone seemed to unofficially get a rewrite of TWINE (including Apted's missus apparently), so they shouldn't get the whole blame (if you hate TWINE) or get the whole credit (if you like TWINE - yes, there's more than just me!!!!). They get a pass on QoS due to the strike.
I think they deserve a break but I'd hate to see EON turn their back on them completely. They've proven that they appreciate the source material, and with the series too often having been guilty of the likes of Dahl, Mankiewicz, and Wood occasionally acting like they had no idea who Fleming or Bond were, P&W should get kudos for that alone.
No, they're not Dick Maibaum, but they have been part of a creative team that has helped keep Bond at the forefront (I hate DAD, but it made a baaaaggg of money), both financially and critically, and while a break should do everyone good, I think it would be shortsighted for us to wish that it were permanent before we know what others are going to produce.
#37
Posted 26 October 2012 - 03:46 AM
#38
Posted 26 October 2012 - 04:06 AM
#39
Posted 26 October 2012 - 04:20 AM
#40
Posted 26 October 2012 - 05:31 AM
But I welcome Logan to write a script on his own for BOND 24. We don´t know what exactly he did on SKYFALL, of course, but the film is so brilliant that he must have improved the script in a significant way.
#41
Posted 26 October 2012 - 06:01 AM
#42
Posted 26 October 2012 - 06:56 AM
#43
Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:01 AM
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I hope and pray P&W doesen't leave
Is this news confirmed ?!
PS: Idris Alba as Blofeld
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Edited by QOS4EVER, 26 October 2012 - 07:01 AM.
#44
Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:09 AM
#45
Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:28 AM
#46
Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:47 AM
#47
Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:54 AM
I really found Bond getting interessting when they came on board and I loved the idea of how Casino Royale and Quantum Of Solace were connected.
I loved the fact that you really feel Bonds rage in CR when he's fighting Quantum in the colapsing building,the way that rage continues with Quantum Of Solace.The way they gave subtle hints of a huge organisation involved without even mentioning the name once ! The algerian love knot neckless, I felt the whole planning was beautifull.
The whole idea of Quantum itself the fact that they led to Vespers death and Bond's thirst for revenge,about an organisation that is everywhere.
and the fact that there's someone on the top of Quantum watching Bond's every move , pulling all the strings while Bond doesen't even know a thing about him.The fact that the villains of both the previous movies(Le Chiffre & Mr.White) were killed by Quantum for divulging too much information.
the whole concept is thrilling if you ask me.
I wasn't a member that time so I dont know if this is true but I loved the idea,
2 years ago there was a supposed leak of the script of Bond 23 and the story was said to be something like this :
It would pick up the trail from where QOS left off.
We know one thing about Quantum,to quote Mr.White himself "Money is not as important to our organisation , as knowing who to trust"
Since Domnic Greene leaked out information about Quantum to Bond,he was killed.This was said to be a story where Quantum is hunting down Bond and about Bond's fight to survive.
the story would have Quantum attack MI6,to agitate Bond and it would lead to Bond finding and killing the man responsible for the events of Quantum and Casino Royale
Like I said earlier , I wasn't a member at that time,Please correct me if I am wrong.
So with the whole brilliance with the quantum organisation , I dont see in any way that they did a bad job
and I agree with SAF "They are a scapegoat for fans frustrations"
#48
Posted 26 October 2012 - 08:17 AM
Interesting. Genuinely didn't know that. Thanks.
SKYFALL was the first time that Logan had worked with Mendes though, wasn't it?
No, they worked on Sweeney Todd together, when Mendes was going to direct it. Possibly other stuff, too.
#49
Posted 26 October 2012 - 10:40 AM
Although the donkey has rather let a spoiler out of the bag to non 007 forum board mortals with his printed statement of such - I thought the deal was to Not Mention it at all. 'Don't spoil it for others...' sort of thing.Baz was right about Harris. Seems he scooped this story as well. Cheers to him, though it is a shame that P&W are out, as they were quite good at laying solid groundwork and getting the ball rolling.
#50
Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:26 AM
#51
Posted 26 October 2012 - 01:51 PM
#52
Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:10 PM
#53
Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:53 PM
Haven't seen Skyfall yet but I think when I do I am going to want another quicker fix of Bond sooner than four years this time. After QoS I think we needed to regain our hunger for a good Bond meal....dont think QoS settled well with most folks tummies (although I liked it.) Now with SF I think and hope we are going to be hungry for more sooner.
Oh and for Bond 24 can we please have the "salad" at the start of the meal.. WHERE IT BELONGS!!!!!
#54
Posted 26 October 2012 - 03:01 PM
#55
Posted 26 October 2012 - 03:18 PM
SKYFALL was the first time that Logan had worked with Mendes though, wasn't it?
Yes and no. Mendes was going to direct Sweeny Todd and worked on the pre-production. He brought Logan onto the project.
EDIT; Sorry missed this...
SKYFALL was the first time that Logan had worked with Mendes though, wasn't it?
No, they worked on Sweeney Todd together, when Mendes was going to direct it. Possibly other stuff, too.
#56
Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:15 PM
I’m told that Logan pitched an original two-movie arc to Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson while they were shooting Skyfall, and that he has already begun writing the scripts. If plans work out, this would be the first Bond film with a storyline to be played out over multiple films, and it certainly makes it feasible that the pictures could be shot back-to-back. (I might be getting ahead of myself here, but anyone named Fleming has to be permitted to froth over James Bond films.)
Goes along with the news we heard over the summer that a writing deal was made for the next two.
#57
Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:25 PM
I’m told that Logan pitched an original two-movie arc to Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson while they were shooting Skyfall, and that he has already begun writing the scripts. If plans work out, this would be the first Bond film with a storyline to be played out over multiple films, and it certainly makes it feasible that the pictures could be shot back-to-back. (I might be getting ahead of myself here, but anyone named Fleming has to be permitted to froth over James Bond films.)
Goes along with the news we heard over the summer that a writing deal was made for the next two.
Interesting. Without writing spoilers, I think there might be one or two seeds for potential future plots planted in Skyfall.
#58
Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:26 PM
is Skyfall in the new story arc with Bond 24 and bond 25
or will Bond 24 and Bond 25 will share a common story arc ?
#59
Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:27 PM
I really couldn't quite understand that ,
is Skyfall in the new story arc with Bond 24 and bond 25
or will Bond 24 and Bond 25 will share a common story arc ?
We. Do. Not. Know.
#60
Posted 26 October 2012 - 08:22 PM