59 replies to this topic

[Vauxhall]

So I guess its a safe bet that SF will have the longest pre title sequence.

I think it will be pretty close to THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH in terms of duration, but not necessarily longer. I'd definitely expect it to be more than than 10 minutes though.

[Pussfeller]

So I guess its a safe bet that SF will have the longest pre title sequence.

I wouldn't make that assumption. It certainly appears that the PTS consists solely of the stuff in Istanbul, and that's a straightforward action sequence. Action scenes are far quicker than scenes involving dialogue. The PTS for TWINE, which lasted about fourteen minutes, was a combination of action and dialogue scenes, most of the time being consumed by jibber-jabber. There's no sign that the Skyfall PTS will involve lengthy dialogue scenes or changes of pace. It looks to be structurally similar to the PTS of Tomorrow Never Dies, i.e. quick cuts between foreign shoot-em-up and British mission control. If the PTS for SF goes longer than ten minutes, I'll be genuinely surprised.

[Vauxhall]

So I guess its a safe bet that SF will have the longest pre title sequence.

I wouldn't make that assumption. It certainly appears that the PTS consists solely of the stuff in Istanbul, and that's a straightforward action sequence. Action scenes are far quicker than scenes involving dialogue. The PTS for TWINE, which lasted about fourteen minutes, was a combination of action and dialogue scenes, most of the time being consumed by jibber-jabber. There's no sign that the Skyfall PTS will involve lengthy dialogue scenes or changes of pace. It looks to be structurally similar to the PTS of Tomorrow Never Dies, i.e. quick cuts between foreign shoot-em-up and British mission control. If the PTS for SF goes longer than ten minutes, I'll be genuinely surprised.

Quite right. The only unknown quantity with this is how long the couple of scenes go on for at the start as Bond discovers Ronson's body and finds that the hard drive has been stolen. Following that it's all action intercut with M monitoring the chase back in London. The chase does have quite a few chapters though, which might drag it out somewhat - car chase through narrow streets, gun battle in the market, motorbike chase across rooftops and through the bazaar, Eve follows the action, the shift of the chase to the train roof, through tunnels and onto the bridge. "All in all, rather stocked"!

[S K Y F A L L]

TWINE was I think 17 minutes, it starts at the Bank, then MI6, and then the boat chase. But SF starts with Bond finding a room of bodies, then a car chase, a shoot out, the bike chase onto a train, then they use that excavator to throw Beetles around and finally end up on the roof top fighting each and dodging tunnels.

I haven't seen the storyboards and don't know if this was in them but it seems like Bond uses the excavator, throws cars off and then uses the bucket to catch the train which Patrice disconnected before fixing his cuffs. That could take some screen time but who knows.

But perhaps if it was the longest PTS, EON would announce it...

[sharpshooter]

If it’s action that flows on in one whole sequence, I don’t have an issue with a longer pre-titles. In TWINE they could’ve easily cut away to the title sequence following Bond’s window jump in Bilbao.

[S K Y F A L L]

A lot happens in the first scenes of CR maybe it will be that fast pasted but I wouldn't be surprised if it was the longest because of the films overall length.
Should make for a long soundtrack.

[thecasinoroyale]

It will probably be one of those opening sequences where it's so smooth and intense we forget we've not had the titles, and so when they appear it will be a nice surpirse that we've not even got past the credits yet!

Perfect time to catch your breath I reckon as I don't think it will let you go...

[The Dove]

Idealy, I think the Pre-title sequence should be NO LONGER than 10 minutes..save the majority of the film's running time for the main body of the film..

[DaveBond21]

This is great news, and would make Skyfall the longest Bond movie. I also expect a long PTS, around the 15-minute mark.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

[The Shark]

Should make for a long soundtrack.

Sure hope not. Almost every Bond since David Arnold took the reigns has been overscored/overspotted. I want lots of silence.

[Dustin]

Should make for a long soundtrack.

Sure hope not. Almost every Bond since David Arnold took the reigns has been overscored/overspotted. I want lots of silence.

I absolutely support this, though for different reasons probably. At my age my hearing is no longer my strong sleeve and I've experienced serious difficulties in recent years to clearly hear dialogue over the sound barrier the score provides.

[Pussfeller]

So have I, and I'm only 24. I despise loud scores. That's the main reason I welcome Arnold's departure. He strikes me as a very noisy composer, even by the standards of the times.

[SecretAgentFan]

Should make for a long soundtrack.

Sure hope not. Almost every Bond since David Arnold took the reigns has been overscored/overspotted. I want lots of silence.

I absolutely support this, though for different reasons probably. At my age my hearing is no longer my strong sleeve and I've experienced serious difficulties in recent years to clearly hear dialogue over the sound barrier the score provides.

Not necessarily a problem with your ears but with the sound mix. Or the cinema´s sound system.

But regarding Arnold - I guess he is merely giving what is expected from him. Newman´s scores, however, tend to be more experimental with sounds and silences - so our wishes probably will come true.

[Elmason]

I've just typed 'skyfall' into google on my Samsung Galaxy S using the samsung browser and the top hit that came back was from the skyfall-movie website which underneath states 1hr 47min PG13. This same search result doesn't occur when I tried my opera browser to do the same. Could be nothing but I don't know

[Vauxhall]

I've just typed 'skyfall' into google on my Samsung Galaxy S using the samsung browser and the top hit that came back was from the skyfall-movie website which underneath states 1hr 47min PG13. This same search result doesn't occur when I tried my opera browser to do the same. Could be nothing but I don't know

This was actually noted a bit further up the thread, and it was suggested that Google had made a mistake as 1 hour 47 minutes was the running time for a movie called WHEN THE SKY FALLS. Not conclusive proof admittedly, but I'd be very surprised indeed if SKYFALL ended up as less than 2 hours long.

[Shrublands]

We know how long Skyfall will be - the Odeon and other cinema chains have been given the running time so they can draw up programs and sell tickets.

[Iceskater101]

I am glad that this movie is long. It will have a good plot and it will wrap up well. Bond Movies are meant to be this long.

[Mr_Wint]

Bond Movies are meant to be this long.

Around 2 hours seems right to me.

[S K Y F A L L]

Doesn't this make it SKYFALL longest Bond film of the lot?

This is a great chart, would be great if there was one for the pre title sequences as well.

[x007AceOfSpades]

Doesn't this make it SKYFALL longest Bond film of the lot?

This is a great chart, would be great if there was one for the pre title sequences as well.

I can make one tonight for the pre-title sequences.

[thecasinoroyale]

Interesting looking at the chart, I remember people complaining about the short running time for 'Quantum Of Solace', but funny it's only a matter of minutes shorter than 'Dr.No' and 'Goldfinger'.

But I think the pacing let 'QOS' down which maybe why people felt short changed compared to 'Dr.No' and 'GF'. Just me thinking out-loud.

[x007AceOfSpades]

Dr. No doesn't seem like an hour and 49 minutes. It seems more like a standard 2 hour film. Maybe it's just me. QOS felt like a generic action film with a generic run time. Again, maybe it's just me.

[thecasinoroyale]

I agree - 'QOS' over-loaded on action and fast paced sequences with not much substantial narrative in the midst of it. 'Dr.No' took the time to give us fleshed out characters and had nice balance of espionage scenes and action.

[Shrublands]

I think the main problem with QoS is, for all the action and short running time, it feels very, very long – and not in an epic good way.

[QOS4EVER]

The only problem of QOS as I see is that the narrativie is a bit off ,The Action sequences were the best compared to any Bond movie.

[Mr_Wint]

I think the main problem with QoS is, for all the action and short running time, it feels very, very long – and not in an epic good way.

If you are going to judge them by "feeling", then LTK is by far the longest Bond movie ever. The middle-act feels like an eternity...

[SecretAgentFan]

Eternity can be over pretty quick then...

[Miles Miservy]

Ever since the writers incorporated the PTS into the plot of the film, the duration of the aforementioned PTS is irrelevant.

[seawolfnyy]

I hope we get a full title song in the film as opposed to an abridged version like in QoS. A 145 min run time definitely suggests we could.

[x007AceOfSpades]

I hope we get a full title song in the film as opposed to an abridged version like in QoS. A 145 min run time definitely suggests we could.

I'm sure they'll cut it by a minute to not bore audiences. Not implying the song is boring, though I do have mixed feelings towards it.